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Discussion You don’t have to be “tall” just tall enough

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I see many people on this site and .org saying that you have to be at least 185 cm or some other bullshit to comfortably mog other males but from my experience, in real life, the height difference in most couples is proportional sure you’ll have outliers but it’s still generally 6-7 inches and if you look at the data it seems to corroborate this.

Most men lie about their height and this leads to further confusion as to what the average is, I’ve literally had this happen so many times at school/work where someone will incorrectly guess someones height and not be corrected, they aren’t walking around with rulers. We even have users from fourth world shitholes claiming that the avg height is somehow more than 5’10 kek.

Those looking for excuses (especially fakecels) will say “bro average zoomer male is 6 ft, so it’s over ;((“, this is not true outside of certain parts of europe but let’s say the average really is 6 ft for males and you happen to be 6 ft then all you’d have to do really is find a foidlet below 5’4 or lie like most men already are. Technically the foid who is 5’6 and going for a 6’4 man is experiencing the same thing as a 5’2 foidlet with a 6 footer.
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“But but foids demand a 6’6 linebacker”
Your main concern demographically isn’t height fetishists or tallfoids. Unless you are actually ugly being 5’11 barefoot is enough in Canada/US, ffs it’s even the minimum height for literal male models. Obsession with being tall is lost on me as well, all that matters is female attention not “heightmogging” other men.
 
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I see many people on this site and .org saying that you have to be at least 185 cm or some other bullshit to comfortably mog other males but from my experience, in real life, the height difference in most couples is proportional sure you’ll have outliers but it’s still generally 6-7 inches and if you look at the data it seems to corroborate this.

Most men lie about their height and this leads to further confusion as to what the average is, I’ve literally had this happen so many times at school/work where someone will incorrectly guess someones height and not be corrected, they aren’t walking around with rulers. We even have users from fourth world shitholes claiming that the avg height is somehow more than 5’10 kek.

Those looking for excuses (especially fakecels) will say “bro average zoomer male is 6 ft, so it’s over ;((“, this is not true outside of certain parts of europe but let’s say the average really is 6 ft for males and you happen to be 6 ft then all you’d have to do really is find a foidlet below 5’4 or lie like most men already are. Technically the foid who is 5’6 and going for a 6’4 man is experiencing the same thing as a 5’2 foidlet with a 6 footer.
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“But but foids demand a 6’6 linebacker”
Your main concern demographically isn’t height fetishists or tallfoids. Unless you are actually ugly being 5’11 barefoot is enough in Canada/US, ffs it’s even the minimum height for literal male models. Obsession with being tall is lost on me as well, all that matters is female attention not “heightmogging” other men.
The picture does not represent the mogg pain this does
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Foids will choose the tall guy over the handsome guy irl. All the tall guys in my school, at whom foids would drool over had like 2/10 faces.

Truth is for foids. you should be in top 10% height to feel attracted to you.

Height >>>>>>>> Face
 
Height > Face.
 
Yeah but if the manlet cut-off is 6ft for foids then it's over for the average man, never mind incels who sign up to this site because they can't compete with the average normie.
 
For manlets like me, its over. My options, if we go by the 8 inches taller preference, would be foids who are 4'11/5'0. I rarely see foids that short.
 
The picture does not represent the mogg pain this does
the-importance-of-height-and-face-v0-5k8ledifshtb1.jpg
Not really the guy on the left looks like some ogre but height fetishists could be seen going for him instead of a chad like kurt cobain.
Foids will choose the tall guy over the handsome guy irl. All the tall guys in my school, at whom foids would drool over had like 2/10 faces.
A good looking face is way rarer than a long torso, femur, and tibia. A genuinely good jaw with balanced ratios and a good skull is hard to come by while there will be hundreds of tall normies everyday at your local mall. But tall avg guy > handsome below avg manlet for foids.
Truth is for foids. you should be in top 10% height to feel attracted to you.

Height >>>>>>>> Face
Too much of a good trait will always compensate for your bad ones, the point is you don't need to be a tall wide framed nfl/nba to get a genuine relationship, above average is more than enough then you have chads with good faces like penn badgley who constantly get simped over despite being ONLY 5'9. Where I live the men above 6'2 don't go for short women at all, it's surprisingly proportional, a chadlite friend (5'11) literally got a cute gf in like a week after returning to school despite not being within your arbitrary top 10% The cutoff is 5'11, "the cutoff on social media is 6ft" you might say, well, outside of northern europe they list literally the cutoff at 180 cm (5'11).
 
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Not really the guy on the left looks like some ogre but height fetishists could be seen going for him instead of a chad like kurt cobain.

A good looking face is way rarer than a long torso, femur, and tibia. A genuinely good jaw with balanced ratios and a good skull is hard to come by while there will be hundreds of tall normies everyday at your local mall. But tall avg guy > handsome below avg manlet for foids.

Too much of a good trait will always compensate for your bad ones, the point is you don't need to be a tall wide framed nfl/nba to get a genuine relationship, above average is more than enough then you have chads with good faces like penn badgley who constantly get simped over despite being ONLY 5'9. Where I live the men above 6'2 don't go for short women at all, it's surprisingly proportional, a chadlite friend (5'11) literally got a cute gf in like a week despite not being within your arbitrary top 10% The cutoff is 5'11, "the cutoff on social media is 6ft", outside of northern europe they list the cutoff at 180 cm (5'11).
Ok, I guess
 
I am literally 6'2" (188 cm), picrel is my goyerment issued ID to prove I'm not bullshitting.

I literally never touched a woman for more than 5 seconds. Never experienced love. Never had sex (non-escorts), and never even managed to get an eyecontact from a woman. I have seen many shortfags and even uglyoids find a foid, yet I'm an absolute subhuman. Being shitskinned doesn't help either. Your height doesn't matter. Being an incel vs chad is rooted in your genetics, and you are genetically determined. Neither height nor face. It's genetics.
 
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Your main concern demographically isn’t height fetishists or tallfoids.
Yeah high IQ post. Height is a big part of SMV but polls on this site seem to point to the average incel being almost average height (there's even those that claim 6'2+ on here, lmfao). OTOH autism is 30x over-represented in incels (true stat), so I feel anyone 5'9 or above is coping if they think they just need to be taller. Having said that, there is a certain height where you trigger the height-fetishist foids. There are probs 5 height-fetish foids for every 6'4 male, so yes, at a certain point height alone is enough.
 
wow so fucking wow how did you come to this wow :feelsseriously:
 
I am literally 6'2" (188 cm), picrel is my goyerment issued ID to prove I'm not bullshitting.
Damn actually thanks for putting in effort for a post on a laotian mango planting forum.
I literally never touched a woman for more than 5 seconds. Never experienced love. Never had sex (non-escorts), and never even managed to get an eyecontact from a woman. I have seen many shortfags and even uglyoids find a foid, yet I'm an absolute subhuman.
Are you curry or sand?
Neither height nor face.
What do you mean by either height nor face, is it NT?
 
wow so fucking wow how did you come to this wow :feelsseriously:
There was no conclusion reached, I'm merely tackling a trend here based on erroneous beliefs.
 
Not really the guy on the left looks like some ogre but height fetishists could be seen going for him instead of a chad like kurt cobain.

A good looking face is way rarer than a long torso, femur, and tibia. A genuinely good jaw with balanced ratios and a good skull is hard to come by while there will be hundreds of tall normies everyday at your local mall. But tall avg guy > handsome below avg manlet for foids.

Too much of a good trait will always compensate for your bad ones, the point is you don't need to be a tall wide framed nfl/nba to get a genuine relationship, above average is more than enough then you have chads with good faces like penn badgley who constantly get simped over despite being ONLY 5'9. Where I live the men above 6'2 don't go for short women at all, it's surprisingly proportional, a chadlite friend (5'11) literally got a cute gf in like a week after returning to school despite not being within your arbitrary top 10% The cutoff is 5'11, "the cutoff on social media is 6ft" you might say, well, outside of northern europe they list literally the cutoff at 180 cm (5'11).
What about this
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How do you think woman will choose?
 
I see many people on this site and .org saying that you have to be at least 185 cm or some other bullshit to comfortably mog other males but from my experience, in real life, the height difference in most couples is proportional sure you’ll have outliers but it’s still generally 6-7 inches and if you look at the data it seems to corroborate this.

Most men lie about their height and this leads to further confusion as to what the average is, I’ve literally had this happen so many times at school/work where someone will incorrectly guess someones height and not be corrected, they aren’t walking around with rulers. We even have users from fourth world shitholes claiming that the avg height is somehow more than 5’10 kek.

Those looking for excuses (especially fakecels) will say “bro average zoomer male is 6 ft, so it’s over ;((“, this is not true outside of certain parts of europe but let’s say the average really is 6 ft for males and you happen to be 6 ft then all you’d have to do really is find a foidlet below 5’4 or lie like most men already are. Technically the foid who is 5’6 and going for a 6’4 man is experiencing the same thing as a 5’2 foidlet with a 6 footer.
View attachment 1072676
“But but foids demand a 6’6 linebacker”
Your main concern demographically isn’t height fetishists or tallfoids. Unless you are actually ugly being 5’11 barefoot is enough in Canada/US, ffs it’s even the minimum height for literal male models. Obsession with being tall is lost on me as well, all that matters is female attention not “heightmogging” other men.
My point was I am a 5 '5 manlet with lean muscular body. No foid will be attracted to me no matter what I do.
 
What about this
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gym-is-brutal-for-short-men-v0-cvwy0q2bnlub1.jpg
gym-is-brutal-for-short-men-v0-qmcmjs2bnlub1.jpg
gym-is-brutal-for-short-men-v0-vssuaj3bnlub1.jpg

How do you think woman will choose?
What's your intention with this post anyways? I never hinted that being too tall was a bad thing in any way. I feel like you skimmed through my post because even decent chads will be mogged by uberchads by one trait, this doesn't mean they'll have problems with foids. Posting sub-7 looking turbomanlets next to chads isn't a gotcha especially the 5'4 guy next to the 7 footer because even the average guy mogs him. More is always better if you have a decent biteltoid.
 
My point was I am a 5 '5 manlet with lean muscular body. No foid will be attracted to me no matter what I do.
I said multiple times that to not face the heightax as a normie-htn you have to be 5'11. Turbomanlets will have it rough everywhere.
 
What's your intention with this post anyways? I never hinted that being too tall was a bad thing in any way. I feel like you skimmed through my post because even decent chads will be mogged by uberchads by one trait, this doesn't mean they'll have problems with foids. Posting sub-7 looking turbomanlets next to chads isn't a gotcha especially the 5'4 guy next to the 7 footer because even the average guy mogs him. More is always better if you have a decent biteltoid.
My point is foids won't find any of the shorter guys taller in front of tallfags. If the foids had change they would fuck the taller man only irrespective of body or face.
 
I said multiple times that to not face the heightax as a normie-htn you have to be 5'11. Turbomanlets will have it rough everywhere.
Ok, then agreed
 
Yeah high IQ post. Height is a big part of SMV but polls on this site seem to point to the average incel being almost average height (there's even those that claim 6'2+ on here, lmfao). OTOH autism is 30x over-represented in incels (true stat), so I feel anyone 5'9 or above is coping if they think they just need to be taller.
I remember before my growth spurt I was rotting and moping around day after day since I was like 5'5 and some people have the audacity to claim average height is some kind of failo. Inceldom stops at 6'3 imo, you could get one or two surgeries and be absolutely fine. Forum users are also so shit at estimating heights too, like c'mon man if you live in fucking mumbai, the avg height isn't anything above 5'8 there but some forum users have claimed otherwise.
Having said that, there is a certain height where you trigger the height-fetishist foids. There are probs 5 height-fetish foids for every 6'4 male, so yes, at a certain point height alone is enough.
Yep even average looking ethnics get chad treatment at that height. The only hindrance to not getting foids is craniofacial deformities or extreme assymetry.
 
it won't make up for your subhuman features.
It did for tallfags in my class though, who had 2/10 faces and shitface with pimples, and foids still drolled over them.
 
You're denying hypergamy with this.
Non, a 5'2 below average femlet going for an average or above average male is quite hypergamous. Like I said people are shit at guessing heights irl too, it's all too common, I barely see a difference when I wear my lifts to get to 6 ft and stand next to my 6ft 2 friends.
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I agree that height is not some end all be all, it won't make up for your subhuman features.
Absolutely (unless white).
 
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Too dumb to understand what that means.....
 
Seems like a decent geomaxxing spot for argentinians/brazilians/chileans
Yeah it would depend on where you are. National average male height for zoomers is maybe 5'6. In pure-blooded Mayan areas it's maybe as low as 5'4, and in more mestizo/castizo areas (usually upper class) it's more 5'8ish. In areas with lots of tourists (large numbers being tallfags from Europe) + mestizos average height can be as high at 5'10 I'd say.
 
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They don't deserve an extra covid booster and bug rations for this, my post wasn't even addressing that debate. It's not a matter of height vs face when both clearly matter in a proportional manner for those that aren't outliers in regards to height or face.
 
It's not a matter of height vs face when both clearly matter in a proportional manner for those that aren't outliers in regards to height or face.
I know, my response to that was as it was because I believe that debate is beyond retarded for the same reason you put here.
"both clearly matter"

Exactly and it is nothing but solipsism when a short guy says that height is the only thing that matters or an ugly guy that says the only thing that matters is face.
 

6ft is manlet cutoff.
Height is important. I have never heard a foid say they want a short bf, they never shut the fuck up about how they want a tall bf. It's not rocket science.
 
The picture does not represent the mogg pain this does
the-importance-of-height-and-face-v0-5k8ledifshtb1.jpg

Foids will choose the tall guy over the handsome guy irl. All the tall guys in my school, at whom foids would drool over had like 2/10 faces.

Truth is for foids. you should be in top 10% height to feel attracted to you.

Height >>>>>>>> Face
Not ready for the Tom Cruise Pill. Despite being short he has had been married to N Kidmann who is like 10cm taller than him jfl.
 
Both face and height matter. Just the less you have of 1 the more you have to jave of another. Like being 6ft4 to compensate 4/10 face or being 9/10 to compensate 5ft9 height.
 
Not ready for the Tom Cruise Pill. Despite being short he has had been married to N Kidmann who is like 10cm taller than him jfl.
Just top 1% in face and 0.00001% in wealth and fame theory
 
I see many people on this site and .org saying that you have to be at least 185 cm or some other bullshit to comfortably mog other males but from my experience, in real life, the height difference in most couples is proportional sure you’ll have outliers but it’s still generally 6-7 inches and if you look at the data it seems to corroborate this.

Most men lie about their height and this leads to further confusion as to what the average is, I’ve literally had this happen so many times at school/work where someone will incorrectly guess someones height and not be corrected, they aren’t walking around with rulers. We even have users from fourth world shitholes claiming that the avg height is somehow more than 5’10 kek.

Those looking for excuses (especially fakecels) will say “bro average zoomer male is 6 ft, so it’s over ;((“, this is not true outside of certain parts of europe but let’s say the average really is 6 ft for males and you happen to be 6 ft then all you’d have to do really is find a foidlet below 5’4 or lie like most men already are. Technically the foid who is 5’6 and going for a 6’4 man is experiencing the same thing as a 5’2 foidlet with a 6 footer.
View attachment 1072676
“But but foids demand a 6’6 linebacker”
Your main concern demographically isn’t height fetishists or tallfoids. Unless you are actually ugly being 5’11 barefoot is enough in Canada/US, ffs it’s even the minimum height for literal male models. Obsession with being tall is lost on me as well, all that matters is female attention not “heightmogging” other men.
How can you ,,mog’’ other males being only 6’1 or 185 cm?! Its average height among zoomers
 
Relocate to an African pygmy tribe theory
 
Im 5 9 its over 4 me
 
Yeah, just like you don't need a pretty boy Chad model face, you just need to have ''an attractive enough'' face, meaning at least 6,5-7 to have a real chance with a low/mid tier Becky.
 
Both face and height matter. Just the less you have of 1 the more you have to jave of another. Like being 6ft4 to compensate 4/10 face or being 9/10 to compensate 5ft9 height.
Exactly. If you're ugly, you can compensate with your height and vice versa. And if you're lacking in both, you can make up for it with fame, wealth, and power/influence. That or high IQ. If you have none of this traits then it's truly over for you.
 
How can you ,,mog’’ other males being only 6’1 or 185 cm?! Its average height among zoomers
Only in the balkans and netherlands.
 
Exactly. If you're ugly, you can compensate with your height and vice versa. And if you're lacking in both, you can make up for it with fame, wealth, and power/influence. That or high IQ. If you have none of this traits then it's truly over for you.
I truly believe you can’t compensate height with face, because height is a filter. Foids filter you by your height. Being tall or at least taller than average is a PREREQUISITE. Being handsome is NOT A PREREQUISITE.
 
194cm or its over @TheGrayWolf
 
194cm or its over @TheGrayWolf
Avg zoomer height in peru and colombia tbh. 200 cm barefoot is the bare minimum to talk to foids in poverty ridden shitholes.
 

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