Blackpill "you are a failed normie": bluepilled

[Personalityinkwell]

People keep forgetting that in order for a normie to get a foid, he not only needs to talk to her properly, he ALSO needs access to her via social circle, and many people are very closed off to allowing incels into their social circles.

 

[sub8male]

Ok calm down it's not like you can just lay in your bed as a chadlite and pussy will come to you.
Same with normies, you can boost your looks and attractiveness if you meet certain requirements but you won't get anywhere near Chad lvl.

Yea and you won’t get anywhere near as much pussy as chad.

 

[BlkPillPres]

You don't decide to like or dislike certain things. You just like it. To say that the person decides what his tastes are shows a huge ignorance about how the human mind works

Dude nobody just woke up and decided "I like art", they were exposed to art and then they decided to try it, genetics can make one inclined to certain things and to perform better at certain tasks, but it doesn't decide whether you like that thing or not, what decides whether you like something has more to do with environmental factors, there's context involved

For example take some child genius artist, genetically predisposed to being good at drawing, now lets say that child was molested by their first art teacher at "the school for the gifted" they were sent to, its very likely that child will dislike art DESPITE BEING GENETICALLY MORE ATTUNED TO THE TASK

Environmental factors play a larger role in what you like, you can look up studies that even show that a lot of homosexual men were "coincidentally" molested by men as children, the sexual abuse they experienced as children obviously influenced their sexual "tastes"

Comparative data of childhood and adolescence molestation in heterosexual and homosexual persons - PubMed

In research with 942 nonclinical adult participants, gay men and lesbian women reported a significantly higher rate of childhood molestation than did heterosexual men and women. Forty-six percent of the homosexual men in contrast to 7% of the heterosexual men reported homosexual molestation...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

In research with 942 nonclinical adult participants, gay men and lesbian women reported a significantly higher rate of childhood molestation than did heterosexual men and women. Forty-six percent of the homosexual men in contrast to 7% of the heterosexual men reported homosexual molestation. Twenty-two percent of lesbian women in contrast to 1% of heterosexual women reported homosexual molestation. This research is apparently the first survey that has reported substantial homosexual molestation of girls. Suggestions for future research were offered.

Humans are clearly beings that go against their genetic programming based on external factors, this is evident in history, we have laws, social norms, a value system, were not even a monogamous species yet for along while we had enforced monogamy (socially enforced), clearly genetic predisposition isn't as significant of a factor as you make it out to be

We do in fact decide the things we like to an extent, and external factors outside of our genetics and influence what choice we make

Explain to me how I decide to stop being autistic.

So autism is a "taste", please at least try and make a proper analogy

Can't I trust the judgment of the foids? When they voluntarily choose chads, I can't say that the choice was reliable ??? When they voluntarily choose to reject me, I cannot trust this judgment ??? I finally have reason to laugh in my shitty life. I've never read so much bullshit together.

So your argument is their judgement is valid because they are allowed to make judgements, are your retarded?, you do realize women are just being ALLOWED to do this right, not to long ago they couldn't even work of vote, yet you are acting as if what they choose based on the choices available is some objective rating system

In the real world, the natural world, they don't get to choose shit, so you literally have no point here, you say women voluntarily choose Chads, well men today choose not to rape, choose not to take women by force, choose to allow women to work and own property, etc. Their choices are only what men as a collective allow them to choose, not to long ago they chose based on different criteria

Lastly just be reason of common sense alone your argument doesn't make sense, the term "average" means what is common

NOT WHAT IS PREFERRED, ITS ABOUT WHAT IS COMMON

Chad is not common, so it doesn't matter if women choose Chad most of the time, that doesn't change what the average occurence of Chad tier looks is

YOU ARE FALSELY CONFLATING PREFERENTIAL CHOICE WITH "CHOOSING THE AVERAGE"

Women are choosing above average because they can and there are no limits on their choices anymore

 

[Neggr]

High IQ thread.

@Fearofeight @Dregster666 and some other posters need to see this tbh

 

[HueHueBr]

This logic works against you too, and more in my favor tbh.

We've seen articles and tiktok threads of 5-6/10 males with an average foid, and most of the low IQ mongs here want to rate the guy as a chad/chadlite.

It never fails, ratings here get lost the second a dude is seen with a foid that isnt a landwhale.

If a man only has access to bad looking females, and such a condition does not depend on his will, he is not chad! His supposed superior appearance doesn't matter!

Dude nobody just woke up and decided "I like art", they were exposed to art and then they decided to try it, genetics can make one inclined to certain things and to perform better at certain tasks, but it doesn't decide whether you like that thing or not, what decides whether you like something has more to do with environmental factors, there's context involved

For example take some child genius artist, genetically predisposed to being good at drawing, now lets say that child was molested by their first art teacher at "the school for the gifted" they were sent to, its very likely that child will dislike art DESPITE BEING GENETICALLY MORE ATTUNED TO THE TASK

Environmental factors play a larger role in what you like, you can look up studies that even show that a lot of homosexual men were "coincidentally" molested by men as children, the sexual abuse they experienced as children obviously influenced their sexual "tastes"

And what does that refute what I said before? My argument is that your tastes are independent of your choices. Whether your tastes are influenced by the environment or by genes, that does not change the fact that preferences are independent of choices. And personality comes into this concept.

So autism is a "taste", please at least try and make a proper analogy

If you argue that personality is a choice, it can be expanded to any mental deformity, as we all have deformities to some degree, albeit tiny in some cases. Therefore, the analogy is fully valid.

So your argument is their judgement is valid because they are allowed to make judgements, are your retarded?, you do realize women are just being ALLOWED to do this right, not to long ago they couldn't even work of vote, yet you are acting as if what they choose based on the choices available is some objective rating system

In the real world, the natural world, they don't get to choose shit, so you literally have no point here, you say women voluntarily choose Chads, well men today choose not to rape, choose not to take women by force, choose to allow women to work and own property, etc. Their choices are only what men as a collective allow them to choose, not to long ago they chose based on different criteria

Lastly just be reason of common sense alone your argument doesn't make sense, the term "average" means what is common

NOT WHAT IS PREFERRED, ITS ABOUT WHAT IS COMMON

Chad is not common, so it doesn't matter if women choose Chad most of the time, that doesn't change what the average occurence of Chad tier looks is

YOU ARE FALSELY CONFLATING PREFERENTIAL CHOICE WITH "CHOOSING THE AVERAGE"

Women are choosing above average because they can and there are no limits on their choices anymore

I don't know which "real world" you live in. In the "real world" where I live, foids do choose, and they choose a lot. You must be talking about a supposedly wild world, where all kinds of violence are valid, including rapes and murders. First, if we were in this world, you and I would have already died at the hands of men stronger than us. Second, the fact that you can force someone to choose something against their will does not change the fact that that person's preference is different.

 

[BlkPillPres]

First, if we were in this world, you and I would have already died at the hands of men stronger than us

Cliche BS argument, if what you were saying is true, we already shouldn't exist with our average genes, because all average men who live in such times before us would have been killed off, IDK maybe you are imaging me with some extreme physical genetic disability, I would do pretty well in such times, and last time I checked men band together and form groups in times like this, its never a complete free for all like its a video game, nobody would survive under those conditions even those "stronger men", you can be as strong as you want, you can't exercise your eyes, your veins and arteries, your groin, etc, all can be attacked, you can also be ganged up on by a group of weaker men and still lose despite being stronger

Second, the fact that you can force someone to choose something against their will does not change the fact that that person's preference is different.

I never argued this so I don't get your point, my point is that you are speaking as if women choosing is some kind of biological "natural" norm and what they choose is average, no it isn't, because under truly natural circumstances they don't get to choose shit

Lastly don't skip over the point, preference is not the same thing as "average", women preferring something doesn't make it average, averages are based on occurrences not preferences

 

[HueHueBr]

if what you were saying is true, we already shouldn't exist with our average genes, because all average men who live in such times before us would have been killed off,

Wrong. The genes that define weak men can survive for generations and generations, and only selective pressure of the Sparta type could keep such genes at considerably low levels. Once such selective pressure disappears, since foids also carry such genes, the number of weak men will tend to increase again.

you can be as strong as you want, you can't exercise your eyes, your veins and arteries, your groin, etc, all can be attacked, you can also be ganged up on by a group of weaker men and still lose despite being stronger

If human male nature behaved this way, where weak men come together, their hypothetical scenario would be realized. It turns out that human nature tends to orbit only stronger men.

my point is that you are speaking as if women choosing is some kind of biological "natural" norm and what they choose is average, no it isn't, because under truly natural circumstances they don't get to choose shit

I think I understand your point. Foids only choose in an unnatural environment, where they are given the right to choose. This does not invalidate my previous points. The preference of the foid remains natural, because it is part of its nature, although it would be restrained in a natural environment.

 

[BlkPillPres]

This does not invalidate my previous points. The preference of the foid remains natural, because it is part of its nature, although it would be restrained in a natural environment.

Lastly don't skip over the point, preference is not the same thing as "average", women preferring something doesn't make it average, averages are based on occurrences not preferences

Why are you trying to skip this shit again, I'm not letting you do that, your argument is complete BS, stop trying to dodge this

OCCURRENCES DETERMINE WHAT IS AVERAGE NOT PREFERENCES

The most common (most occurring) flavor of ice-cream is vanilla, hence why the word "vanilla" is often used to describe the "default" of something, the most common example being sex (as in "vanilla sex")

It is the average when it comes to ice cream flavors because its the standard flavor, its the most common flavor, more people liking chocolate fudge ice cream DOESN'T MAKE CHOCOLATE FUDGE ICE CREAM THE AVERAGE FLAVOR

 

[FrothySolutions]

Do you really believe that someone who comes to incels.co didn't make an absurd effort before realizing it's over? Do you seriously believe that some users here have never addressed a foid?

I don't believe that, but that's not the argument people are making. They're saying "I did try, and we all probably tried, but no man should need to try. If a man needs to try, he's incel."

 

[HueHueBr]

Why are you trying to skip this shit again, I'm not letting you do that, your argument is complete BS, stop trying to dodge this

OCCURRENCES DETERMINE WHAT IS AVERAGE NOT PREFERENCES

The most common (most occurring) flavor of ice-cream is vanilla, hence why the word "vanilla" is often used to describe the "default" of something, the most common example being sex (as in "vanilla sex")

It is the average when it comes to ice cream flavors because its the standard flavor, its the most common flavor, more people liking chocolate fudge ice cream DOESN'T MAKE CHOCOLATE FUDGE ICE CREAM THE AVERAGE FLAVOR

Based on your premise, preferences cannot then be discussed, because if the "average" metric cannot be used to predict preferences, then there is nothing you can do, as it gets into people's minds to know what they want it's not possible.

Gigantic companies that assume preferences from statistical data disagree with you.

I don't believe that, but that's not the argument people are making. They're saying "I did try, and we all probably tried, but no man should need to try. If a man needs to try, he's incel."

It is normal for some members to become radicalized. Any group, including ITtards, tends to be radicalized because some members validate the opinions of others for fear of retaliation.

But it is understandable to suppose that, if you need to try, it is over. The problem is that foids are the ones who decide whether to interact. They send signals that they are interested, and it is up to the man to just approach and give the impression that he has conquered the foid. If she gives absolutely no sign, it is because she has not noticed you as an interesting man, and therefore it is not worth trying. You need to have at least some sign to get attached that justifies an approach.

When you notice that absolutely no foid gives you a clear signal, and that when one gives an alleged signal, it is a false signal just for her to laugh at you, at some point you will conclude that it's over.

 

[BlkPillPres]

Based on your premise, preferences cannot then be discussed, because if the "average" metric cannot be used to predict preferences, then there is nothing you can do, as it gets into people's minds to know what they want it's not possible.

Gigantic companies that assume preferences from statistical data disagree with you.

What are you even saying, that has nothing to do with anything I said, are you high or something?

What you said literally has absolutely nothing to do with what I said, its as if two different arguments are taking place at the same time, I don't know what you are arguing right now, what I'm arguing is that preference does not determine an average, its the occurrence rate of something that determines the average for that thing, and at this point I'll have to assume you are trolling or you are a retard so I'll make it simpler for you and take it down to kindergartner level

John has 20 apples, 8 pears and 3 oranges, what is the average (most common) fruit in his collection?

The answer is obvious

I don't know what else to do at this point, I'll leave this to you to answer by yourself

If you are this stupid I seriously can't help you, you can even look up synonyms for the word average

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I'm done arguing 1+1=2, even children understand what the "term" average means, you are literally trying to argue that THE EXCEPTION IS AVERAGE BECAUSE WOMEN ARE ATTRACTED TO IT

 

[Dregster]

If a man only has access to bad looking females, and such a condition does not depend on his will, he is not chad! His supposed superior appearance doesn't matter!

A rich man has access to many foids. Beautiful or ugly.

 

[FrothySolutions]

It is normal for some members to become radicalized. Any group, including ITtards, tends to be radicalized because some members validate the opinions of others for fear of retaliation.

But it is understandable to suppose that, if you need to try, it is over. The problem is that foids are the ones who decide whether to interact. They send signals that they are interested, and it is up to the man to just approach and give the impression that he has conquered the foid. If she gives absolutely no sign, it is because she has not noticed you as an interesting man, and therefore it is not worth trying. You need to have at least some sign to get attached that justifies an approach.

When you notice that absolutely no foid gives you a clear signal, and that when one gives an alleged signal, it is a false signal just for her to laugh at you, at some point you will conclude that it's over.

A lot of the incorrect and radical things people believe here are wrong. And it's understandable why they'd come to those conclusions. We can understand how killers come to their conclusions, and we should understand why people come to radical conclusions so we can help them with the underlying causes. But these radical conclusions are still wrong.

I know why Lopez mailed an acid bomb to Björk, but while I wish he wasn't so tortured inside I know it's wrong to mail acid bombs to people.

 

[BlkPillPres]

A rich man has access to many foids. Beautiful or ugly.

Which is why wealthmaxxing is so important, it allows a man to circumvent the laws of the sexual market, you basically become a player that moves pieces around rather than being another piece on the board subject to the moves of the players

An example of the "players" would be the government (by the laws they make) or the pioneers of "disruptive technologies" (facebook, tinder, etc)

Rich men aren't really subject to the "moves" of these "players", they have the resources and outlets to circumvent all restrictions

Western women are hypergamous - Just go to some eastern europe country where the women are poor, more traditional and just as beautiful if not more beautiful

Want to get married but divorce laws are crappy and divorce rates are high - No problem, you can afford to move to a country with extreme traditional values that are enforced and still live an enjoyable life of leisure (so long as you don't leave the country)

I know why Lopez mailed an acid bomb to Björk, but while I wish he wasn't so tortured inside I know it's wrong to mail acid bombs to people.

There's no such thing as "wrong", what he did was uncivilized, violent, chaotic, etc but not wrong, "right" and "wrong" are merely what humans project onto "actions" and "occurrences", things merely happen, what those things mean to us is why we call them "good" or "evil", but to that roach you stepped on the other day or some other insect you mistakenly or purposefully killed you aren't "evil" or "wrong"

Of course I already know you are the ultimate moral fag on this site, so you definitely don't have the ability to comprehend abstract concepts, its literally impossible for an emotional thinker to do so, because to think in abstract is to disconnect yourself from the limitation of human concepts of existence

 

[IncelKing]

What are you even saying, that has nothing to do with anything I said, are you high or something?

What you said literally has absolutely nothing to do with what I said, its as if two different arguments are taking place at the same time, I don't know what you are arguing right now, what I'm arguing is that preference does not determine an average, its the occurrence rate of something that determines the average for that thing, and at this point I'll have to assume you are trolling or you are a retard so I'll make it simpler for you and take it down to kindergartner level

John has 20 apples, 8 pears and 3 oranges, what is the average (most common) fruit in his collection?

The answer is obvious

I don't know what else to do at this point, I'll leave this to you to answer by yourself

If you are this stupid I seriously can't help you, you can even look up synonyms for the word average

I'm done arguing 1+1=2, even children understand what the "term" average means, you are literally trying to argue that THE EXCEPTION IS AVERAGE BECAUSE WOMEN ARE ATTRACTED TO IT

Bro, i tried to explain this same shit to OP last night, he didnt understand. He has to be trolling, there's no way a human being can be this retarded.

Can't I trust the judgment of the foids? When they voluntarily choose chads, I can't say that the choice was reliable ??? When they voluntarily choose to reject me, I cannot trust this judgment ??? I finally have reason to laugh in my shitty life. I've never read so much bullshit together.

If you trust the judgement of foids, then dont complain when they "judge" you to be unworthy of sex and instead have sexual "preferences" for Chad. After all, their judgement is to be trusted right?

You are the definition of a retard. You dont understand the most basic arguments and you cant think logically, while laughing at the people who are significantly smarter than you and trying to educate you (which makes no sense whatsoever).

You are a waste of a human life, KILL YOURSELF

 

[Ropemaxx]

Ok calm down it's not like you can just lay in your bed as a chadlite and pussy will come to you.
Same with normies, you can boost your looks and attractiveness if you meet certain requirements but you won't get anywhere near Chad lvl.

This.

Do you really believe that someone who comes to incels.co didn't make an absurd effort before realizing it's over? Do you seriously believe that some users here have never addressed a foid?

YEEEEEEEESS!
Too many people here admit to never having talked to a woman. So its not me believing that, its those incels admiting that.

Doesnt make their situation less shitty But we have alot of mentalcels, that are mentalcels until proven otherwise. If you cant even talk to a woman, you are mentalcel until proven otherwise, period.

5s, 6s and 7s NEED to be NT. NEED to be social or have a social circle. If normies lack those, they BECOME incel.

Below that is trucel tier and any effort wont matter. Its beyond retarded to try to put all incels in the same category.

CUCK LOGIC!

I know a gigachad who got his dick sucked while he played videogames on the weekend. I mean I saw it on pornhub but whatever. I play videogames everyday on my moms basement where are my stacies! Unfair! I fucking hate my incel life there is no point in trying even though I am literally 18 years old. that’s why I turn down all invitations to parties, social events, and avoid conversation with people and women, because there is no point, don’t you know it is OVER?!? Look I’ll prove to you your wrong am gonna approach some women right now to prove am incel. You’re a bluepilled oldcel cuck, why would I take a female out on a date? That’s betabuxxing and CUCKED tbhngldedsrs. I am destined to LDAR and postmaxx on .co

You really get it. I hate that attitude. These sub8 guys trying to turn blackpill into a basement meme..

 

[HueHueBr]

If you trust the judgement of foids, then dont complain when they "judge" you to be unworthy of sex and instead have sexual "preferences" for Chad. After all, their judgement is to be trusted right?

So should I trust the judgment of an incel who has been rejected by foids all his life and ended his shitty days by creating a .co profile? "Do not trust foids, they choose chads not because chads have the most desirable genes for foids, trust me, I am automatically rejected even before I open my mouth".

You are the definition of a retard. You dont understand the most basic arguments and you cant think logically, while laughing at the people who are significantly smarter than you and trying to educate you (which makes no sense whatsoever).

It was not me who said that autism does not influence personality in the long run, ignoring the effects of heavy bullying in childhood. Nor was I the one who ignored the fact that autists, in general, have other genetic deformities, worsening what is already bad.

Who is the retard now? Why are you still alive?

YEEEEEEEESS!
Too many people here admit to never having talked to a woman. So its not me believing that, its those incels admiting that.

And do you really take these people seriously? Do you really believe that some boy with sexual desire could never have tried to approach girls, to see other boys getting to kiss and have sex with girls, trying to get at least a kiss ???

These guys are no different than the girls who say they only dated two or three guys, but they forget those males who fucked them in a random party, or that chad they met on a cruise a long time ago, etc ...

 

[Ropemaxx]

And do you really take these people seriously? Do you really believe that some boy with sexual desire could never have tried to approach girls, to see other boys getting to kiss and have sex with girls, trying to get at least a kiss ???

These guys are no different than the girls who say they only dated two or three guys, but they forget those males who fucked them in a random party, or that chad they met on a cruise a long time ago, etc ...

Yeah, its called social anxiety or autistm.
Damn so depressing when new evidence arises and firt reaction is to dismiss the claims to stick to your world view.. yikes

 

[Stalin]

5s, 6s and 7s NEED to be NT. NEED to be social or have a social circle. If normies lack those, they BECOME incel.

Below that is trucel tier and any effort wont matter. Its beyond retarded to try to put all incels in the same category.

People mix truecel with frustrated, temporary failed(to become a betabuxxer or .. whatever) and often even plain NT but still normie all the time on this forum.

The former is locked forever in inceldom(unless surgery) the later use this forum as a jump start for future "ascension" superpowered(as he thinks) by a "top secret" knowledge of how male <-> female interactions really work.

But the later ones will still fail anyway since truthpill knowledge will never let them be comformable/secure in a future "relationship".

tldr: once you registered on this site and read some stuff, its automatically and completely over for you, even if you r just larping here.

 

[Ropemaxx]

tldr: once you registered on this site and read some stuff, its automatically and completely over for you, even if you r just larping here.

High IQ. I’ve Said this before, finding an obscure incel forum and making an account and posting There is the biggest sign your life is over.

 

[IncelKing]

So should I trust the judgment of an incel who has been rejected by foids all his life and ended his shitty days by creating a .co profile? "Do not trust foids, they choose chads not because chads have the most desirable genes for foids, trust me, I am automatically rejected even before I open my mouth".

You make no sense whatsoever, its like you dont even understand English JFL. I'm done, there's no point arguing when you dont even understand the words im typing.

at this point I'll have to assume you are trolling or you are a retard so I'll make it simpler for you and take it down to kindergartner level

John has 20 apples, 8 pears and 3 oranges, what is the average (most common) fruit in his collection?

The answer is obvious

I don't know what else to do at this point, I'll leave this to you to answer by yourself

If you are this stupid I seriously can't help you, you can even look up synonyms for the word average

I'm done arguing 1+1=2, even children understand what the "term" average means, you are literally trying to argue that THE EXCEPTION IS AVERAGE BECAUSE WOMEN ARE ATTRACTED TO IT

JFL blkpillpres tried arguing using a kindergartener example, AND YOU STILL DONT UNDERSTAND. You've taken retardation to a whole new level, i actually feel sorry for your parents. I give up, believe whatever you want, you dont have the IQ to understand basic arguments. You cant educate a retard no matter how much you try.

Who is the retard now?

Which one of us got called a retard by the most intelligent poster on the forum (aka blkpillpres)? Thats the answer to your question.

If im a retard, then you are braindead.

 

[BummerDrummerOG]

Ok calm down it's not like you can just lay in your bed as a chadlite and pussy will come to you.
Same with normies, you can boost your looks and attractiveness if you meet certain requirements but you won't get anywhere near Chad lvl.

/thread

if you don’t put in any effort at all then I don’t view you the same as incels who’ve actually tried. I don’t mean like years of looksmaxxing or whatever either, I just mean like a pinch of effort that can be maybe just getting rejected by your looksmatch after asking.

Which one of us got called a retard by the most intelligent poster on the forum (aka blkpillpres)? Thats the answer to your question.

>most intelligent person on the forum

Coped has inflation of his ego. He’s not stupid as are none of us but he’s not “highest intelligence” I can make a “high intelligence post” as much as the next guy. This is why I don’t get you pseudo intellectual fucking retards. Faceandlms does this same shit.

example:

so this example will be about the objectivity of the truth of my theories on lookism for ugly males. it’s been proven in the scientific blackpill community talking about Normies that Ugly men are typically ostracized in society and have a higher suicide rate. This basically means they are dying very fast and of societies volition, not so much of their own. Society has bullied ugly males and routinely does so because of a hierarchy

Well what is this hierarchy? It is one of purely lookist face values opinions and ideals upon which the pillars of society stand. There’s been numerous objective facts placed in the form of tinder and fake online job applications to prove this. What we perceive as “chad”, an objectively good looking man, will do better than an “incel”, an objectively bad looking man. To claim this is to blindly be ignorant to the theory of lookism and lookist values.

TDLR I COULD MAKE THESE 2 PARAGRAPHS INTO ONE SENTENCE: INCELS ARE OPPRESSED BY SOCIETY. I’m not “high Iq” for stretching out my message 50 fold.

 

[Deleted member 16023]

Didn't read but agree