Hypocrisy would you date an ex-landwhale?

[Sheogorath]

I'm a borderline landwhale myself and probably wouldn't get serious about approaching women for dates until I lost weight and became more attractive (call that cope if you like) but while ex-landwhales are certainly more appealing than current-landwhales, I'm kind of scared of dating ex-landwhales too.

That is hypocritical I guess, since anyone willing to date me would be willing to date an ex-landwhale too, but I guess I can't help it?

Aesthetically there would be some loose skin but I don't think it would be too disgusting as long as they weren't uber landwhales... Like it would be tolerable if they were only ~30-40 pounds overweight and only had that much skin stretch. But if it was like ~200 pounds and they had dropped from 350 to 150 it might be rather repulsive. I mean in my case I'd probably only want to lose around 40 pounds of fat...

In the case of guys, the optin exists to fill some of that loose skin with new muscle, so there wouldn't be as much looseness. I don't think women are as willing (or able) to put on muscle to fill out loose skin though, so that's part of why I think there is a realistic double standard here.

I think I am more psychologically afraid though. An ex-landwhale migth be prone to reverting to landwhale habits if they got comfortable dating, and if we had kids they might have a personality prone to addictive behavior like that.

 

[IamJacksBrokenHeart]

 

[Mainländer]

I'd even date a girl who's currently fat as long as she's white, young, face isn't repulsive and low mileage (if high mileage/old, would still fuck).

 

[Joelossus]

Yeah why wouldn't I?

 

[Damo the incel]

Yeah why wouldn't I?

Because @Napoleon de Geso would only tfu on an ex landwhale

 

[Joelossus]

Because @Napoleon de Geso would only tfu on an ex landwhale

Oh well in that case i guess my answer will be no.

 

[Damo the incel]

Oh well in that case i guess my answer will be no.

I , honorable man of culture, will never commit to femoid who is not virgin, who is hitten by THE WALL, who is way past prime years, will never give her money, will not care about her bastard children (except waifuing her daughter), tfu on roasties

 

[Excluded]

volcel

 

[PPEcel]

1. Volcel if you wouldn't.

2. It takes a lot of hard work to lose 200 pounds, someone who does that probably has the drive to keep improving her body.

 

[Crab Rangoon]

Depends on loose skin. I have a tiny bit myself but it's over for me anyway.

But I know a chad who currently dates a 10/10 stacy with over 20k followers on instagram and she was overweight when she was younger. Not a landwhale but definitely overweight.

 

[HueHueBr]

Ex landwhale don't want shit Men.

 

[Musophobia]

I'd date a landwhale if I could tbh

 

[FrustratedWhiteMale]

No. Fat women more often than not, go for Black Men.
I tried to go after fat women in school, and they usually chose a Black Man over me.
This was in the 1980's.

 

[Deleted member 140]

Yes, I would as long as she's not fat anymore. Skin surgery is an easy fix in 2019 for loose skin.

Also FATCELS OUT

 

[Sparrow's Song]

Depends on her height, facial bone structure, hymen status and race.

 

[zangano1]

Depends on how she looks, I hate landwhales so much

 

[Purveyoroftruth]

I'm a borderline landwhale myself and probably wouldn't get serious about approaching women for dates until I lost weight and became more attractive (call that cope if you like) but while ex-landwhales are certainly more appealing than current-landwhales, I'm kind of scared of dating ex-landwhales too.

That is hypocritical I guess, since anyone willing to date me would be willing to date an ex-landwhale too, but I guess I can't help it?

Aesthetically there would be some loose skin but I don't think it would be too disgusting as long as they weren't uber landwhales... Like it would be tolerable if they were only ~30-40 pounds overweight and only had that much skin stretch. But if it was like ~200 pounds and they had dropped from 350 to 150 it might be rather repulsive. I mean in my case I'd probably only want to lose around 40 pounds of fat...

In the case of guys, the optin exists to fill some of that loose skin with new muscle, so there wouldn't be as much looseness. I don't think women are as willing (or able) to put on muscle to fill out loose skin though, so that's part of why I think there is a realistic double standard here.

I think I am more psychologically afraid though. An ex-landwhale migth be prone to reverting to landwhale habits if they got comfortable dating, and if we had kids they might have a personality prone to addictive behavior like that.

Nah. Once an ocean dweller always an ocean dweller. They would still have that bottom of the ocean personality that came from years of being a whale.

 

[FUCKITALLREEE]

blow my load n hit the road.

 

[Ellsworth]

Yes. Fakecel if I wouldn’t.

 

[Purveyoroftruth]

Depends on how she looks, I hate landwhales so much

Do you hate landwhales as much as I do?

 

[Deleted member 2047]

There is no such thing as an ex landwhale. It's only a matter of time before they relapse.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat11]

Giga volcel if you wouldn't

 

[Emba]

Not gonna happen my fren.

She's losing the weight for Chad.

:[

 

[zangano1]

Do you hate landwhales as much as I do?

Yes, or more

 

[Haywire]

i am just about to the point porn disgusts me and yes i would plow that bitch hard

 

[Sheogorath]

2. It takes a lot of hard work to lose 200 pounds, someone who does that probably has the drive to keep improving her body.

It doesn't take hard work at all, you just need to eat less. Women don't tend to have drive, if they lose weight it's by eating less more often than working out.

 

[BrapZilian]

Giga volcel if you wouldn't

 

[PPEcel]

It doesn't take hard work at all, you just need to eat less. Women don't tend to have drive, if they lose weight it's by eating less more often than working out.

Losing 20 pounds would be "just eat less". Losing 200 pounds is a lot. I mean, how does someone who weigh 350 even get out of bed?

 

[Sheogorath]

Losing 20 pounds would be "just eat less". Losing 200 pounds is a lot. I mean, how does someone who weigh 350 even get out of bed?

You don't need to get out of bed to lose weight. In fact, that will help you avoid eating assuming someone isn't bringing the food to you.

 

[Deleted member 15737]

I’d fuck anything biological human female at this point as long as she had a low partner count and wasn’t a complete cunt personality wise.

 

[Deleted member 4159]

I'm a borderline landwhale myself and probably wouldn't get serious about approaching women for dates until I lost weight and became more attractive (call that cope if you like)

As a fatcel myself (30lbs down though), I can totally relate. I get treated even worse by overweight women, as they hate me for reminding them of their real status.

That is hypocritical I guess, since anyone willing to date me would be willing to date an ex-landwhale too, but I guess I can't help it?

No, being overweight is completely different as a man. Overweight women still get to play the woman card, and they are treated way better than overweight men are. In fact, fat can even enhance a woman's looks if they distribute it to their breasts and ass. Men are still willing to get with overweight women, with some having legitimate fetishes for them. They aren't shamed for being overweight, and they have a huge support system to lose weight too. And when they do lose weight, their smv will skyrocket higher than it already is. Any humility they once had will be gone, and they will be just as egotistical, if not more, than your average thin woman. However, the increasing number of women becoming overweight increases their market value as a whole. Women are seeing that they don't need to work to stay fit to get a quality man, and as this epidemic worsens, I predict that thin women will become extremely rare.

Now, lets look at men. You get treated even worse than an average male, who already has it bad. Your life is so stressful and depressing that will make losing weight even harder. Not only are males expected to lose weight, but they are pressured to have a lean, muscular physique, which takes years to build up, and even more effort to maintain, having to be in the gym for multiple hours on multiple days. And even if you do this, you will be accused of being vein and overcompensating. And even if you do somehow pull this off, thin males still have a horrid existence, which will lead you to getting depressed again and putting the weight back on.

In fact, I became overweight due to inceldom in my teens and early 20's, but have recently lost 30lbs (have 40-50 more to go). I have to stay lean because when I get even slightly overweight, I am affected by severe sleep apnea, which makes it impossible for me to be a functional person and is a living hell to endure.

Aesthetically there would be some loose skin but I don't think it would be too disgusting as long as they weren't uber landwhales... Like it would be tolerable if they were only ~30-40 pounds overweight and only had that much skin stretch. But if it was like ~200 pounds and they had dropped from 350 to 150 it might be rather repulsive. I mean in my case I'd probably only want to lose around 40 pounds of fat...

You're not morbidly obese, you're just chubby. They can always get surgery for loose skin. It won't be perfect, but it is better.

I think I am more psychologically afraid though. An ex-landwhale migth be prone to reverting to landwhale habits if they got comfortable dating, and if we had kids they might have a personality prone to addictive behavior like that.

Absolutely, women are psychologically weaker than men. Food addiction is only one problem that obese women have. Obese women's real problem lies with impulse control and emotional issues. Obese women are more likely to have problems with alcholol, drugs, promiscuity, anger management, violence, being easily upset, and they are very loud and unpleasant people to be around. At the end of the day, our world is destined to become more obese. Women have it too easy, and men have it too hard.

 

[Deleted member 22907]

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Giga volcel if you wouldn't

Yes. Fakecel if I wouldn’t.

 

[Sheogorath]

I get treated even worse by overweight women, as they hate me for reminding them of their real status.

I guess we have that in common? I mean us and fat chicks.

fat can even enhance a woman's looks if they distribute it to their breasts and ass.

Only if you're talking something like going from 10% to 15% body fat, it's downhill past there. Anything that starts the skin dimpling/rolling ruins them.

Men are still willing to get with overweight women, with some having legitimate fetishes for them.

That applies the other way around too, just to a much lesser degree. Like maybe 1% the amount of women tolerate/fetishize fat men than the other way around.

They aren't shamed for being overweight, and they have a huge support system to lose weight too.

Again: this isn't an absolute difference, just a relative one. Fat women do also get shamed (but they have a counter-shaming network against fat shamers to create a chilling effect about it) and fat men can find support systems, but they aren't huge, just like online communities and free advice columns, not IRL mobs of bros willing to take you out on gym dates or help you get slim with free sex.

And when they do lose weight, their smv will skyrocket higher than it already is. Any humility they once had will be gone, and they will be just as egotistical, if not more, than your average thin woman.

Eh... couldn't some actually be shamed of their secret fat past, knowing that some of us will rightfully scorn them for their past addictive and self-abusive behaviors? Like being an ex-alcoholic or ex-druggie.

Plus they should also be conscious about stretch marks and extra skin.

You're right there are some who would act the way you say but I'm not sure what %...

However, the increasing number of women becoming overweight increases their market value as a whole. Women are seeing that they don't need to work to stay fit to get a quality man, and as this epidemic worsens, I predict that thin women will become extremely rare.

I think we have the wrong perspective here. A woman being fat does NOT have her SMV increased by other women becoming fat.

It's more like if MOST women are lowering their SMV, then they don't have to compete against higher SMVs...

I guess we could distinguish this by defining two amounts: ABSOLUTE SMV (which is not raised by other chicks getting uglier) and RELATIVE SMV (which is increased)

they are pressured to have a lean, muscular physique, which takes years to build up, and even more effort to maintain

Maintaining muscle never takes MORE effort to maintain than it does to build in the first place, it takes LESS.

having to be in the gym for multiple hours on multiple days.

I'm thinking this could be a beginning hurdle as we learn limits. By focusing on compound lifts (ie just do rows instead of bicep curls and rear delt flies, just do leg press instead of knee curl and knee extension) it's bound to lessen overall workout time.

And even if you do this, you will be accused of being vein and overcompensating.

*vain
and women accusing muscular guys of that is mostly just cope, and either flirtation directly, trying to lower their SMV in eyes of other females to lower competition for him, or a way of negging an ugly-face guy hitting on them that they want to go away

And even if you do somehow pull this off, thin males still have a horrid existence, which will lead you to getting depressed again and putting the weight back on.

I wouldn't describe a guy with high muscle mass and low body fat as thin. Lean, not thin.

In fact, I became overweight due to inceldom in my teens and early 20's, but have recently lost 30lbs (have 40-50 more to go). I have to stay lean because when I get even slightly overweight, I am affected by severe sleep apnea, which makes it impossible for me to be a functional person and is a living hell to endure.

Smart idea, my sleep quality would probably go up if I lsot some.

You're not morbidly obese, you're just chubby.

No obesity is morbid until they actually die, but I am probably lowering my life expectancy carrying unnecessary amounts. All that LDL floating around is getting wracked by free radicals and sticking to my veins and shit, sure of it. All that sugar floating around is glycolizing my proteins and creating AGEs man.

they are very loud and unpleasant people to be around

I've witnessed the occasional quiet/shy landwhale and they're kinda cute, but are definitely unicorns. It does seem more often than not that they're louder than average-proportioned women. I wonder if it's an overcompensation thing, or trying to appeal to "intimidates guys" fetishists, or maybe part of a costume where they're actually trying to repulse men due to being rape victims.

 

[KingOfRome]

Yes, I would as long as she's not fat anymore. Skin surgery is an easy fix in 2019 for loose skin.

Can confirm. People can't even tell I'm a former hamplanet thanks to my skin surgery. They assume I'm just naturally fit and I let them believe.

 

[Sheogorath]

Can confirm. People can't even tell I'm a former hamplanet thanks to my skin surgery. They assume I'm just naturally fit and I let them believe.

I think we should make an exception to the "no selfies" rule to allow KOR to post a photograph of JUST his surgical scars, for curiosity.

I should also be allowed to post selfies of JUST the scars where I cut off couples of skin tags and moles with a pair of these:

 

[ironmanlet321]

Yes, but hopefully they don’t gain back the weight ded srs.

 

[KingOfRome]

I think we should make an exception to the "no selfies" rule to allow KOR to post a photograph of JUST his surgical scars, for curiosity.

I should also be allowed to post selfies of JUST the scars where I cut off couples of skin tags and moles with a pair of these:
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You can go on Youtube and Google images to see before and after pictures, and even the procedure itself. The only thing is I have next to no skin elasticity in the places where I really packed on the lard, so very tight definition in those places is a pipe dream for me, but it's still a lot better than 80% of guys with dad bods or blatant obesity, and still gets rated pretty highly by strangers on the internet when my face is cropped out.

Yes, but hopefully they don’t gain back the weight ded srs.

If they can stick with a diet long enough to get to a healthy weight, they can probably maintain it. Most landwhales (and I mean well over 90% of them, statistically proven fact) lose maybe 10% of their body weight before rebounding and gaining back what they lost at least. We're talking about a very small number of people here; most of them will have had some form of bariatric surgery, and you, as a partner, will have to deal with everything that entails.

 

[VirginAutistManlet]

It doesn’t matter whether I would or not because an obese land whales hypergamy is on par with a stacey. Anything that resembles a foid today has endless opportunity for sexual relations.

 

[Sheogorath]

an obese land whales hypergamy is on par with a stacey.
Anything that resembles a foid today has endless opportunity for sexual relations.

Landwhales will prioritize Chad like any foid if he is available, but she is less hypergamous in the sense that since Chad is less likely to settle for her, she will probably cope by settling for sub-Chads more readily than Stacey.

She will take advantage of the "endless opportunity" in sub-Chad because she has less Chad opportunities than Stacey does, and needs to be kept feeling validated / get free chocolates / free furniture-moving from orbiters she will give an occasional HJ/BJ to.

 

[Deleted member 4159]

I guess we have that in common? I mean us and fat chicks.


Only if you're talking something like going from 10% to 15% body fat, it's downhill past there. Anything that starts the skin dimpling/rolling ruins them.


That applies the other way around too, just to a much lesser degree. Like maybe 1% the amount of women tolerate/fetishize fat men than the other way around.


Again: this isn't an absolute difference, just a relative one. Fat women do also get shamed (but they have a counter-shaming network against fat shamers to create a chilling effect about it) and fat men can find support systems, but they aren't huge, just like online communities and free advice columns, not IRL mobs of bros willing to take you out on gym dates or help you get slim with free sex.


Eh... couldn't some actually be shamed of their secret fat past, knowing that some of us will rightfully scorn them for their past addictive and self-abusive behaviors? Like being an ex-alcoholic or ex-druggie.

Plus they should also be conscious about stretch marks and extra skin.

You're right there are some who would act the way you say but I'm not sure what %...


I think we have the wrong perspective here. A woman being fat does NOT have her SMV increased by other women becoming fat.

It's more like if MOST women are lowering their SMV, then they don't have to compete against higher SMVs...

I guess we could distinguish this by defining two amounts: ABSOLUTE SMV (which is not raised by other chicks getting uglier) and RELATIVE SMV (which is increased)


Maintaining muscle never takes MORE effort to maintain than it does to build in the first place, it takes LESS.


I'm thinking this could be a beginning hurdle as we learn limits. By focusing on compound lifts (ie just do rows instead of bicep curls and rear delt flies, just do leg press instead of knee curl and knee extension) it's bound to lessen overall workout time.


*vain
and women accusing muscular guys of that is mostly just cope, and either flirtation directly, trying to lower their SMV in eyes of other females to lower competition for him, or a way of negging an ugly-face guy hitting on them that they want to go away


I wouldn't describe a guy with high muscle mass and low body fat as thin. Lean, not thin.


Smart idea, my sleep quality would probably go up if I lsot some.


No obesity is morbid until they actually die, but I am probably lowering my life expectancy carrying unnecessary amounts. All that LDL floating around is getting wracked by free radicals and sticking to my veins and shit, sure of it. All that sugar floating around is glycolizing my proteins and creating AGEs man.


I've witnessed the occasional quiet/shy landwhale and they're kinda cute, but are definitely unicorns. It does seem more often than not that they're louder than average-proportioned women. I wonder if it's an overcompensation thing, or trying to appeal to "intimidates guys" fetishists, or maybe part of a costume where they're actually trying to repulse men due to being rape victims.

Keep coping bro

 

[Sheogorath]

Keep coping bro

You mean that in the sense that "I'm pretending I'm not attracted to fat chicks because not even fat chicks would fuck me?" or something?

I'll readily admit, I've had a few slummy fap sessions about a couple landwhales, they're just not prominent among my fap choices.

 

[Deleted member 4159]

You mean that in the sense that "I'm pretending I'm not attracted to fat chicks because not even fat chicks would fuck me?" or something?

I'll readily admit, I've had a few slummy fap sessions about a couple landwhales, they're just not prominent among my fap choices.

No, it seems like you think formerly fat girls will be different than the rest of them.

 

[Romello Gaghan 2]

I'd date a 2/10 anything no lie