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Discussion Would you consider sex/intimacy a need instead of a want?

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I think it can be a need for many people, because many users here are depressed and suicidal because of a lack of it. However, you can technically survive without sex, while you can't survive with food and shelter. What are your thoughts on this?
 
its a need because I am insane
 
No, I would consider a need as being something strictly required for survival (food, water, oxygen, sleep). I don't literally need sex or intimacy just to survive, even though by not experiencing it my quality of life is substantially reduced compared to the average person's.
 
I don't literally need sex or intimacy just to survive, even though by not experiencing it my quality of life is substantially reduced compared to the average person's.
This is what I think too.
 
Considering how it's mentioned everywhere. Normie talks, media, mainstream music etc. it sounds like it's something very normal/natural thus a need.
 
It absolutely is a need, and while it may not be as immediate as some of the physiological needs โ€” such as food, water and shelter โ€” the consequences of being deprived of connection and intimacy are devastating and can ruin your life. Your mental health will progressively deteriorate as a result of missing out on these activities, and you will even suffer long-term consequences to your physical health in addition; people really underestimate how detrimental inceldom truly is, and they always neglect the list of positive effects intimacy and affection has on people.

You may not die immediately because of a lack of it, but you will slowly rot, and in many cases โ€” you will yearn for death as solace, so what difference does it make?

It's one of the most fundamental human drives, which underlies much of what motivates us in life; to live a life while being unable to fulfill such a crucial biological imperative is to not live at all.
 
It absolutely is a need, and while it may not be as immediate as some of the physiological needs โ€” such as food, water and shelter โ€” the consequences of being deprived of connection and intimacy are devastating and can ruin your life. Your mental health will progressively deteriorate as a result of missing out on these activities, and you will even suffer long-term consequences to your physical health in addition; people really underestimate how detrimental inceldom truly is, and they always neglect the list of positive effects intimacy and affection has on people.

You may not die immediately because of a lack of it, but you will slowly rot, and in many cases โ€” you will yearn for death as solace, so what difference does it make?

It's one of the most fundamental human drives, which underlies much of what motivates us in life; to live a life while being unable to fulfill such a crucial biological imperative is to not live at all.
 
there is no meaningful difference between a want and a need
 
It absolutely is a need, and while it may not be as immediate as some of the physiological needs โ€” such as food, water and shelter โ€” the consequences of being deprived of connection and intimacy are devastating and can ruin your life. Your mental health will progressively deteriorate as a result of missing out on these activities, and you will even suffer long-term consequences to your physical health in addition; people really underestimate how detrimental inceldom truly is, and they always neglect the list of positive effects intimacy and affection has on people.
Which is why I'm adopting antinatalism. The fact that a child could experience this is enough of a reason to not have kids. Thoughts on antinatalism?
 
I think it can be a need for many people, because many users here are depressed and suicidal because of a lack of it. However, you can technically survive without sex, while you can't survive with food and shelter. What are your thoughts on this?
Its a want but its the closest want to a need if you understand what I am putting down
 
Which is why I'm adopting antinatalism. The fact that a child could experience this is enough of a reason to not have kids. Thoughts on antinatalism?
Intuitively, I thought that antinatalism is rational, but the truth is that it relies on a utilitarian framework of aggregate suffering that I realized I cannot support without contradicting my other ethical convictions, as any ideology that promotes the extinction of the human race is fundamentally anti-human; not only is that a problematic viewpoint in and of itself, but the primary problem is it cannot be properly applied on the macro level, which inevitably leads to what may possibly be worse consequences for everyone (e.g., lower birth rates lead to a decaying society, and increasingly pro-mortalist views, and you cannot properly enforce antinatalism, hence you will simply die along with your ideology, merely to be replaced by what may be a worse ideology).
 
a need of course, itโ€™s every animals goal in life-to reproduce
 
A need for a mental health. You can't be mentally healthy being an incel
 
No, I would consider a need as being something strictly required for survival (food, water, oxygen, sleep). I don't literally need sex or intimacy just to survive, even though by not experiencing it my quality of life is substantially reduced compared to the average person's.
Sex is necessary for the survival of the human race so that makes it a biological need.
 
Sex is necessary for the survival of the human race so that makes it a biological need.
I was talking about immediate survival requirements on an individual level.
 
Need definitely, otherwise people that dont have it wouldn't go coo coo
 
Obviously, yes.
 
did you ever want to kys?
Yes. I do agree that inceldom erodes mental health, but I do not literally require sex in order to physically survive daily (which is what I would consider to be the criteria for something being a need). I understand the point you are making but I would define a need more strictly.
 
Yes. I do agree that inceldom erodes mental health, but I do not literally require sex in order to physically survive daily (which is what I would consider to be the criteria for something being a need). I understand the point you are making but I would define a need more strictly.
I understand
 
Yes, I deserve to breed
 
It is a need. It has alway been a need. You, biologically, have only 2 purposes:

1. Self preservation
2. Reproduction

Everything else in life follows from these two and the SOLE and ULTIMATE purpose of everything else is to facilitate the achievement of those two.

Failing to meet those two core anchors of your existence will cause immense pain and depression
 
Definitely a need but while you can pay for sex you can never pay for real intimacy. You just learn to suck it up. Speaking of which here's hoping I can go see a hooker and get a blowjob this month.
 
I think it can be a need for many people, because many users here are depressed and suicidal because of a lack of it. However, you can technically survive without sex, while you can't survive with food and shelter. What are your thoughts on this?
Itโ€™s a need for all organisms, it is a need that should be given by women, otherwise we are being oppressed
 
It's a need

How tf can you consider yourself blooming in life if you don't have anyone to love you
 
It is a need. It has alway been a need. You, biologically, have only 2 purposes:

1. Self preservation
2. Reproduction

Everything else in life follows from these two and the SOLE and ULTIMATE purpose of everything else is to facilitate the achievement of those two.

Failing to meet those two core anchors of your existence will cause immense pain and depression
I wouldn't say self-preservation but reproduction yes definitely, it's the goal of any organism even down to microscopic bacteria to reproduce.

The whole reason we have sexual reproduction is to have high genetic variability between offspring decreasing the chance of unwanted mutations leading to extinction.
 
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When you're young its a need
 

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