"Women don't owe you sex"

[AshamedVirgin34]

Well, men don't owe women a relationship, if a man wants to dedicate his life to casual sex and never have serious relationships, he has the right to do it, yet many women get resentful with that, saying that men are pigs because they put sex above romantic love, even though it's our right and our freedom, I know we've all seen how women get resentful for Chads who want sex but not a relationship, and even though women hate him for "using" them, the truth is that women are the ones who let him sleep with him, he's only having consensual sex with them because they let him, but they get frustrated because they expect something more than sex even if the chad makes it clear that's not gonna happen, so it's not Chad's fault is it?

Look, I do believe that women don't owe us sex, even though many brocels are gonna disagree, and also I want to have sex with a woman who wants me, not with a woman who doesn't want me but feels she has to. However, the fact that women don't owe us sex doesn't mean it's completely wrong to get frustrated about not getting sex from them, people don't owe us a "thank you" after we do them a favor but it's still frustrating to not receive it.

And if women want to criticize me for being frustrated for not receiving sex from them, I'm going to remind them that they also can get frustrated when they don't receive what they want from men, they get frustrated when the chad who uses them for sex doesn't want to commit, even though he has the right to live his life freely and without long term relationships if that's what he wants.

If women were in our position, they would also be frustrated and resentful with this disgusting sexual scarcity, they want to deny it because they want to feel they are better than us, but the main reason they are not as resentful and bitter as us is because of pure luck, because they don't have to go through this situation, they also get frustrated when they don't get what they want from the Chad they're sleeping with, or when they don't receive enough likes on instagram, but when it comes to us receiving zero likes in social media, zero sexual validation and zero sexual or romantic experiences suddenly they forget they can also get frustrated from that and say sex and romantic experiences are not a big deal. They are lying to themselves and to us.

How can I not get frustrated with having to accept that I had to go through all my 21 years of life being FORCED to be a celibate, FORCED to accept that I'll never be validated as a sexual and romantic being, experiencing zero validation, feeling that there is a wall that separates me from sexhavers and normal people, knowing that out there there are teens way younger than me achieving the impossible objective of having sex, achieving my impossible dreams of life, while when I was their age I had to be a conformist and live life in my room playing videogames and being in YouTube, I had good grades in school because life was so boring that homework was seen as an exciting challenge in comparison, I have a pretty high sex drive and pretty strong romantic feelings, but it seems I'll have to cope with living with that important aspect of my life unsatisfied, and then I have to stand people who dare to judge me even though they never had to experience this level of scarcity, unsatisfaction and lack of validation that destroys your self-esteem, I know it's easy to judge me from their position of sexual abundance, but if they were in my situation they would see that this problem is not as easy to handle as they think, idiots.

 

[FastBlast]

also get frustrated from that and say sex and romantic experiences are not a big deal. They are lying to themselves and to us

It's like when multi-millionaires say "money doesn't make you happy bro"

 

[AshamedVirgin34]

It's like when multi-millionaires say "money doesn't make you happy bro"

Exactly. They take sex for granted, that's just how ABUNDANT sex is to them.

 

[der_komische]

read every word

 

[Balding Subhuman]

Women say that bullshit all the time but then they call a guy an asshole if he doesn't commit after they had sex. Most incels don't even feel entitled to sex, but even if we did then we are just as entitled as foids are by default

 

[AshamedVirgin34]

read every word

Sometimes I end up writing pretty long posts, it's a tendency of mine that I try to reduce or at least regulate, but I try to explain my ideas in depth.

This text describes what I feel each time I see a dumbass on IT saying that sex is not a big deal, of course it's easy to say that from their position of sexual abundance and satisfaction, of course it's easier for them to not worry that much about sex, fucking idiots I hate them .

 

[IncelKing]

Men don’t owe women safety eithER.

Women aren’t entitled to not being raped and/or viciously murdERed. AftER all, entitlements don’t exist right? Isn’t that what normies tell us constantly?

Sick of the level of entitlement women have these days

 

[IncelsNeverCry]

TLDR I walk fast behind women on my nightwalks

 

[der_komische]

Sometimes I end up writing pretty long posts, it's a tendency of mine that I try to reduce or at least regulate, but I try to explain my ideas in depth.

This text describes what I feel each time I see a dumbass on IT saying that sex is not a big deal, of course it's easy to say that from their position of sexual abundance and satisfaction, of course it's easier for them to not worry that much about sex, fucking idiots I hate them .

Most 'people' on IT are just as much incel as we are. Stop caring about them

 

[Puppeter]

It's like when multi-millionaires say "money doesn't make you happy bro"

It doesnt bring you happiness yet keeps all his money with him

 

[AshamedVirgin34]

It doesnt bring you happiness yet keeps all his money with him

We failed to achieve sexual abundance, let's work to get wealth abundance . It's easier to cope when you're wealthy.

 

[AshamedVirgin34]

Most 'people' on IT are just as much incel as we are. Stop caring about them

""""People"""", hahahaha, loved that one

 

[Lone-Star]

Most 'people' on IT are just as much incel as we are. Stop caring about them

 

[Puppeter]

We failed to achieve sexual abundance, let's work to get wealth abundance . It's easier to cope when you're wealthy.

I know man but its so hard to find a good job

 

[Gamblord]

Without getting too deep into it, solipsism should be answered with solipsism. You don't care about me? Then we won't care about you. When foids hit the wall, get run over, and when Chad throws them away like used condoms we will make sure you hear us laughing at your expense. When a foid begs us for help we will decline, record and upload for the laughs.

 

[SmhChan]

You seem to be a struggling soul, fellow grey. You're just starting out at 21. It's about to get much tougher. I hope you won't ask for a ban.

 

[SoycuckGodOfReddit]

Kikes own the world with their system of usury

We need to fight fire with fire

Foids not only owe sex to every incel, they should be forced into permanent debt slavery

 

[NorthernWind]

Without getting too deep into it, solipsism should be answered with solipsism. You don't care about me? Then we won't care about you. When foids hit the wall, get run over, and when Chad throws them away like used condoms we will make sure you hear us laughing at your expense. When a foid begs us for help we will decline, record and upload for the laughs.

Few weeks ago I encountered some females ( probably from Ukraine ), maybe daughter with her mother and the younger one carried a relatively big bag. When they were near stairs I wanted to offer help but then I thought that they wouldn't care about my basic needs even if they had ability to fulfill them + many women view me as disgusting filth.
So I just walked away. The younger female seemed to be angry and displeased that no one helped her.
Sorry but if you view men as servants then you should know that even servants are paid for their jobs.

 

[Logic55]

Men don't owe women protection

 

[Travis Bickle]

Well, men don't owe women a relationship, if a man wants to dedicate his life to casual sex and never have serious relationships, he has the right to do it, yet many women get resentful with that, saying that men are pigs because they put sex above romantic love, even though it's our right and our freedom, I know we've all seen how women get resentful for Chads who want sex but not a relationship, and even though women hate him for "using" them, the truth is that women are the ones who let him sleep with him, he's only having consensual sex with them because they let him, but they get frustrated because they expect something more than sex even if the chad makes it clear that's not gonna happen, so it's not Chad's fault is it?

Look, I do believe that women don't owe us sex, even though many brocels are gonna disagree, and also I want to have sex with a woman who wants me, not with a woman who doesn't want me but feels she has to. However, the fact that women don't owe us sex doesn't mean it's completely wrong to get frustrated about not getting sex from them, people don't owe us a "thank you" after we do them a favor but it's still frustrating to not receive it.

And if women want to criticize me for being frustrated for not receiving sex from them, I'm going to remind them that they also can get frustrated when they don't receive what they want from men, they get frustrated when the chad who uses them for sex doesn't want to commit, even though he has the right to live his life freely and without long term relationships if that's what he wants.

If women were in our position, they would also be frustrated and resentful with this disgusting sexual scarcity, they want to deny it because they want to feel they are better than us, but the main reason they are not as resentful and bitter as us is because of pure luck, because they don't have to go through this situation, they also get frustrated when they don't get what they want from the Chad they're sleeping with, or when they don't receive enough likes on instagram, but when it comes to us receiving zero likes in social media, zero sexual validation and zero sexual or romantic experiences suddenly they forget they can also get frustrated from that and say sex and romantic experiences are not a big deal. They are lying to themselves and to us.

How can I not get frustrated with having to accept that I had to go through all my 21 years of life being FORCED to be a celibate, FORCED to accept that I'll never be validated as a sexual and romantic being, experiencing zero validation, feeling that there is a wall that separates me from sexhavers and normal people, knowing that out there there are teens way younger than me achieving the impossible objective of having sex, achieving my impossible dreams of life, while when I was their age I had to be a conformist and live life in my room playing videogames and being in YouTube, I had good grades in school because life was so boring that homework was seen as an exciting challenge in comparison, I have a pretty high sex drive and pretty strong romantic feelings, but it seems I'll have to cope with living with that important aspect of my life unsatisfied, and then I have to stand people who dare to judge me even though they never had to experience this level of scarcity, unsatisfaction and lack of validation that destroys your self-esteem, I know it's easy to judge me from their position of sexual abundance, but if they were in my situation they would see that this problem is not as easy to handle as they think, idiots.

white pill i must say.

 

[buried_alive]

Based thread. You are right in that women don't owe us sex, but on the other side there is roughly 60% of men who are not getting their basic needs met (this is based on that research saying that 63% of men are single). God know how many are living completely loveless lives. What about these guys? Should they just kill themselves? Nobody owes them anything, so fuck them, right?

Women today are expecting way too much and offering too little. They don't realize the societal damage this does. They are not contributing to the betterment of society, quite the contrary. There is a large group of people who are basically out to cause us evil, so how can we change this?

Without getting too deep into it, solipsism should be answered with solipsism. You don't care about me? Then we won't care about you. When foids hit the wall, get run over, and when Chad throws them away like used condoms we will make sure you hear us laughing at your expense. When a foid begs us for help we will decline, record and upload for the laughs.

Few weeks ago I encountered some females ( probably from Ukraine ), maybe daughter with her mother and the younger one carried a relatively big bag. When they were near stairs I wanted to offer help but then I thought that they wouldn't care about my basic needs even if they had ability to fulfill them + many women view me as disgusting filth.
So I just walked away. The younger female seemed to be angry and displeased that no one helped her.
Sorry but if you view men as servants then you should know that even servants are paid for their jobs.

These 2 are the correct replies about what we can do. We only have power to control ourselves. You see a women burning, being raped, mugged, needing help, whatever.... you walk away. Nobody owes them anything.

f women were in our position, they would also be frustrated and resentful with this disgusting sexual scarcity, they want to deny it because they want to feel they are better than us, but the main reason they are not as resentful and bitter as us is because of pure luck, because they don't have to go through this situation, they also get frustrated when they don't get what they want from the Chad they're sleeping with, or when they don't receive enough likes on instagram, but when it comes to us receiving zero likes in social media, zero sexual validation and zero sexual or romantic experiences suddenly they forget they can also get frustrated from that and say sex and romantic experiences are not a big deal. They are lying to themselves and to us.

You hit the nail in the head here. And they are very vocal about what little inconveniences they have in life. Why shouldn't we be too?

 

[suicidecase]

Well, men don't owe women a relationship

This is a weak counter-argument. Modern women don't care about relationships and can get them with ease anyway if they want.

What men don't owe women is their labour, resources and protection. These are what women need from men and men/society have handed to women on a silver platter. What men need from women is sex/reproduction, and both of these things are highly protected (meaning women have complete control over them). That's the trade.

 

[Autistic Uggo]

Good thread. I pretty much agree with everything you said. I also think it's funny how they just expect us to just suffer in silence. They go out of their way to censor and ban us. That seems horrifically entitled to me. We're not owed sex, but we don't have to pretend that our situation is fair.

 

[Mayocel]

Ironically women feel very entitled to sex. God forbid they get rejected, they start screeching like monkeys

 

[AshamedVirgin34]

Good thread. I pretty much agree with everything you said. I also think it's funny how they just expect us to just suffer in silence. They go out of their way to censor and ban us. That seems horrifically entitled to me.

Yes, "men are not entitled to sex, so what about all those men who can't have sex because of their looks and neurodivergency? Well, fuck them, who cares, I have the luck to not be in their position so I don't care", that's how they sound.

We're not owed sex, but we don't have to pretend that our situation is fair.

Exactly, because it isn't fair at all, this inequality of life experiences is a deep injustice.

 

[Murder Mario]

Why buy the cow if u can get the milk for free?

 

[Gamblord]

This is a weak counter-argument. Modern women don't care about relationships and can get them with ease anyway if they want.

What men don't owe women is their labour, resources and protection. These are what women need from men and men/society have handed to women on a silver platter. What men need from women is sex/reproduction, and both of these things are highly protected (meaning women have complete control over them). That's the trade.

I think you misunderstood the subtext. Foids care about Chad giving them a relationship. The modern problem with foids is they can get 1000+ matches online, get Chads for sex but these dudes simply move on to the next foid flavour of the day and don't stick around. This is deeply troubling for the foid as she begins to age out. Foids are not interested in the bottom 80% of men except to exploit them as betabuxx. They care deeply about relationships because it is tied to their survival and happiness.

Agree with your second paragraph. I don't think foids have complete control because most of them only go for Chad and these are scarce and all the foids want them. The inter-foid competition for them is fierce and Chad gets to ultimately choose if he stays or reproduces with them (he can use a condom).

 

[Drakul]

This would make sense in a world where everyone has at least a tiny niche of women into them. In that cause you should just wait. It would make sense as you'd have an alternative and still want to fuck other women like a gluttonous thief.

But since AWALT you're like a poor man stealing an apple just to have something in his stomach. There's nothing more pleasurable than sex and nothing more comfortable than intimacy hence it's worse then being dead. Sub 5 people raping is self defense against a knife held by death imbued with hp devouring poison.

 

[glassescel]

Well, men don't owe women a relationship, if a man wants to dedicate his life to casual sex and never have serious relationships, he has the right to do it, yet many women get resentful with that, saying that men are pigs because they put sex above romantic love, even though it's our right and our freedom, I know we've all seen how women get resentful for Chads who want sex but not a relationship, and even though women hate him for "using" them, the truth is that women are the ones who let him sleep with him, he's only having consensual sex with them because they let him, but they get frustrated because they expect something more than sex even if the chad makes it clear that's not gonna happen, so it's not Chad's fault is it?

Look, I do believe that women don't owe us sex, even though many brocels are gonna disagree, and also I want to have sex with a woman who wants me, not with a woman who doesn't want me but feels she has to. However, the fact that women don't owe us sex doesn't mean it's completely wrong to get frustrated about not getting sex from them, people don't owe us a "thank you" after we do them a favor but it's still frustrating to not receive it.

And if women want to criticize me for being frustrated for not receiving sex from them, I'm going to remind them that they also can get frustrated when they don't receive what they want from men, they get frustrated when the chad who uses them for sex doesn't want to commit, even though he has the right to live his life freely and without long term relationships if that's what he wants.

If women were in our position, they would also be frustrated and resentful with this disgusting sexual scarcity, they want to deny it because they want to feel they are better than us, but the main reason they are not as resentful and bitter as us is because of pure luck, because they don't have to go through this situation, they also get frustrated when they don't get what they want from the Chad they're sleeping with, or when they don't receive enough likes on instagram, but when it comes to us receiving zero likes in social media, zero sexual validation and zero sexual or romantic experiences suddenly they forget they can also get frustrated from that and say sex and romantic experiences are not a big deal. They are lying to themselves and to us.

How can I not get frustrated with having to accept that I had to go through all my 21 years of life being FORCED to be a celibate, FORCED to accept that I'll never be validated as a sexual and romantic being, experiencing zero validation, feeling that there is a wall that separates me from sexhavers and normal people, knowing that out there there are teens way younger than me achieving the impossible objective of having sex, achieving my impossible dreams of life, while when I was their age I had to be a conformist and live life in my room playing videogames and being in YouTube, I had good grades in school because life was so boring that homework was seen as an exciting challenge in comparison, I have a pretty high sex drive and pretty strong romantic feelings, but it seems I'll have to cope with living with that important aspect of my life unsatisfied, and then I have to stand people who dare to judge me even though they never had to experience this level of scarcity, unsatisfaction and lack of validation that destroys your self-esteem, I know it's easy to judge me from their position of sexual abundance, but if they were in my situation they would see that this problem is not as easy to handle as they think, idiots.

They tell you sex isn't important because they know it's over for you and you don't bother those who have sex.
They don't feel like you and that's why they tell you a lot of shit so that you finally let go of the dream that is unrealistic for you.
Those having sex want you to finally accept your position as a slave and subhuman...

View: https://voca.ro/1mAMxnYWlboZ

 

[suicidecase]

I think you misunderstood the subtext. Foids care about Chad giving them a relationship. The modern problem with foids is they can get 1000+ matches online, get Chads for sex but these dudes simply move on to the next foid flavour of the day and don't stick around. This is deeply troubling for the foid as she begins to age out. Foids are not interested in the bottom 80% of men except to exploit them as betabuxx. They care deeply about relationships because it is tied to their survival and happiness.

Agree with your second paragraph. I don't think foids have complete control because most of them only go for Chad and these are scarce and all the foids want them. The inter-foid competition for them is fierce and Chad gets to ultimately choose if he stays or reproduces with them (he can use a condom).

How does any of this matter when females prefer being alone to being in a relationship with non-chads? Which they can do because of the reasons I mentioned-- that society/the state provides everything they need from those men without the need to trade their sexuality for it. women don't mind being in harems, that's the natural state and how they lived for most of history.

 

[based_meme]

Look, I do believe that women don't owe us sex,

Then you've been cucked and brainwashed by modern society, buddy boyo.

Men provide women resources and protection. In return, women provide men sex and progeny. That's been the deal since humans started walking upright.

The problem is that women have been provided those things by society wholesale - completely gratis - without the expectation to fulfill their end of the bargain. Modern society, with all of its benefits and amenities, has written off women's collective debt in the ledger and has instead forced men, through laws and culture, to pay their end of the deal - that is as old as humanity itself - without absolutely anything in return. This is a form of slavery.

The saddest part isn't that men are becoming incels in historic record numbers. No, the saddest part is that men in the West have been brainwashed to accept that they haven't been getting fucked beyond their comprehension and that women have not, in fact, have had a free lunch for over 50 years and counting. And it's getting worse as we speak.

 

[Gamblord]

How does any of this matter when females prefer being alone to being in a relationship with non-chads? Which they can do because of the reasons I mentioned-- that society/the state provides everything they need from those men without the need to trade their sexuality for it. women don't mind being in harems, that's the natural state and how they lived for most of history.

Yes they prefer alone to being with a non-Chad but eventually foids need to settle. There's both an economic and biological imperative to do this. Foids typically get a betabux trapped in a sexless marriage or cuck him with Chad's son.

They can remain childless but this is a bad existence for them. They will be supported by the government to some degree but it is a garbage life and it gets worse in old age where you have no children to rely on. Not to mention they suck at everything so it is unlikely they will be killing it in some career.

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

Well, men don't owe women a relationship, if a man wants to dedicate his life to casual sex and never have serious relationships, he has the right to do it, yet many women get resentful with that, saying that men are pigs because they put sex above romantic love, even though it's our right and our freedom, I know we've all seen how women get resentful for Chads who want sex but not a relationship, and even though women hate him for "using" them, the truth is that women are the ones who let him sleep with him, he's only having consensual sex with them because they let him, but they get frustrated because they expect something more than sex even if the chad makes it clear that's not gonna happen, so it's not Chad's fault is it?

Look, I do believe that women don't owe us sex, even though many brocels are gonna disagree, and also I want to have sex with a woman who wants me, not with a woman who doesn't want me but feels she has to. However, the fact that women don't owe us sex doesn't mean it's completely wrong to get frustrated about not getting sex from them, people don't owe us a "thank you" after we do them a favor but it's still frustrating to not receive it.

And if women want to criticize me for being frustrated for not receiving sex from them, I'm going to remind them that they also can get frustrated when they don't receive what they want from men, they get frustrated when the chad who uses them for sex doesn't want to commit, even though he has the right to live his life freely and without long term relationships if that's what he wants.

If women were in our position, they would also be frustrated and resentful with this disgusting sexual scarcity, they want to deny it because they want to feel they are better than us, but the main reason they are not as resentful and bitter as us is because of pure luck, because they don't have to go through this situation, they also get frustrated when they don't get what they want from the Chad they're sleeping with, or when they don't receive enough likes on instagram, but when it comes to us receiving zero likes in social media, zero sexual validation and zero sexual or romantic experiences suddenly they forget they can also get frustrated from that and say sex and romantic experiences are not a big deal. They are lying to themselves and to us.

How can I not get frustrated with having to accept that I had to go through all my 21 years of life being FORCED to be a celibate, FORCED to accept that I'll never be validated as a sexual and romantic being, experiencing zero validation, feeling that there is a wall that separates me from sexhavers and normal people, knowing that out there there are teens way younger than me achieving the impossible objective of having sex, achieving my impossible dreams of life, while when I was their age I had to be a conformist and live life in my room playing videogames and being in YouTube, I had good grades in school because life was so boring that homework was seen as an exciting challenge in comparison, I have a pretty high sex drive and pretty strong romantic feelings, but it seems I'll have to cope with living with that important aspect of my life unsatisfied, and then I have to stand people who dare to judge me even though they never had to experience this level of scarcity, unsatisfaction and lack of validation that destroys your self-esteem, I know it's easy to judge me from their position of sexual abundance, but if they were in my situation they would see that this problem is not as easy to handle as they think, idiots.

Nobody is owed anything until society decides they are. In the Netherlands they pay cripples benefits so they can see a hooker twice a year. The logic obviously being "sex and physical intimacy are a basic human need, these people are disadvantaged and so can not fullfill that need, society should support them to make their lifes less horrible and more worth living and the world more fair. Either you think that's a good thing, at which point the same logic can obviously be extended to ugly men in general or you think these cripples should go rot in hell.

Women deploy the "you aren't owed anything" logic when they know they are at an inherent advantage. Like in the domain of sex and love. Because then it is in their self-interest to do so.
They deploy the "everyone deserves equal outcomes" or "we should uplift the downtrodden" logic when they are at an disadvantage. Or even when they can just get away with pretending they are. Like when it comes to high earning jobs, high pressure+responsibility leadership positions, any STEM field, etc. Because then it is in their self-interest to do so.

I'm not arguing they should all be forced to fuck us if they want to or not. But what I'm trying to suggest to you is this:
These people are playing the political game to win, with no regards for morals or fairness. If men don't start playing towards their own interests, aggressively, unapologetically, we will just keep getting rolled.
"Women own us sex" is bad not because it makes you feel uncomfortable or because personal freedom (kek, these people lie about race to force an entire country to accept mass immgration, they do not give one fk about freedom or choice when it's not in their interest) or because logic but because it isn't a viable startegy to win.

If I believed it was, I would push it, w/e it's true or right. If you wouldn't do the same, you are still fighting with gloves on against an opponent who is fighting barehanded with a coin roll in each fist (yeah yeah, I know, don't do this, it will break your fingers, you get the point though).

 

[AshamedVirgin34]

They tell you sex isn't important because they know it's over for you and you don't bother those who have sex.
They don't feel like you and that's why they tell you a lot of shit so that you finally let go of the dream that is unrealistic for you.
Those having sex want you to finally accept your position as a slave and subhuman...

View: https://voca.ro/1mAMxnYWlboZ

Absolutely

 

[glassescel]

Nobody is owed anything until society decides they are. In the Netherlands they pay cripples benefits so they can see a hooker twice a year. The logic obviously being "sex and physical intimacy are a basic human need, these people are disadvantaged and so can not fullfill that need, society should support them to make their lifes less horrible and more worth living and the world more fair. Either you think that's a good thing, at which point the same logic can obviously be extended to ugly men in general or you think these cripples should go rot in hell.

Women deploy the "you aren't owed anything" logic when they know they are at an inherent advantage. Like in the domain of sex and love. Because then it is in their self-interest to do so.
They deploy the "everyone deserves equal outcomes" or "we should uplift the downtrodden" logic when they are at an disadvantage. Or even when they can just get away with pretending they are. Like when it comes to high earning jobs, high pressure+responsibility leadership positions, any STEM field, etc. Because then it is in their self-interest to do so.

I'm not arguing they should all be forced to fuck us if they want to or not. But what I'm trying to suggest to you is this:
These people are playing the political game to win, with no regards for morals or fairness. If men don't start playing towards their own interests, aggressively, unapologetically, we will just keep getting rolled.
"Women own us sex" is bad not because it makes you feel uncomfortable or because personal freedom (kek, these people lie about race to force an entire country to accept mass immgration, they do not give one fk about freedom or choice when it's not in their interest) or because logic but because it isn't a viable startegy to win.

If I believed it was, I would push it, w/e it's true or right. If you wouldn't do the same, you are still fighting with gloves on against an opponent who is fighting barehanded with a coin roll in each fist (yeah yeah, I know, don't do this, it will break your fingers, you get the point though).

Women only fight in their own interests.
If they do something good for you, it's only because they can somehow rise morally and thus socially.
Equal rights for all are only important to them as long as they have achieved a certain goal in their own interest.
Since they have nothing to do with incels and therefore have no interest of their own, they will not demand the same right, but will rather try to cover up the entire problem...

 

[TheIncelPill]

People don't owe anybody anything. Morality is a psy-op.

 

[turbosperg]

Well, men don't owe women a relationship, if a man wants to dedicate his life to casual sex and never have serious relationships, he has the right to do it, yet many women get resentful with that, saying that men are pigs because they put sex above romantic love, even though it's our right and our freedom, I know we've all seen how women get resentful for Chads who want sex but not a relationship, and even though women hate him for "using" them, the truth is that women are the ones who let him sleep with him, he's only having consensual sex with them because they let him, but they get frustrated because they expect something more than sex even if the chad makes it clear that's not gonna happen, so it's not Chad's fault is it?

Look, I do believe that women don't owe us sex, even though many brocels are gonna disagree, and also I want to have sex with a woman who wants me, not with a woman who doesn't want me but feels she has to. However, the fact that women don't owe us sex doesn't mean it's completely wrong to get frustrated about not getting sex from them, people don't owe us a "thank you" after we do them a favor but it's still frustrating to not receive it.

And if women want to criticize me for being frustrated for not receiving sex from them, I'm going to remind them that they also can get frustrated when they don't receive what they want from men, they get frustrated when the chad who uses them for sex doesn't want to commit, even though he has the right to live his life freely and without long term relationships if that's what he wants.

If women were in our position, they would also be frustrated and resentful with this disgusting sexual scarcity, they want to deny it because they want to feel they are better than us, but the main reason they are not as resentful and bitter as us is because of pure luck, because they don't have to go through this situation, they also get frustrated when they don't get what they want from the Chad they're sleeping with, or when they don't receive enough likes on instagram, but when it comes to us receiving zero likes in social media, zero sexual validation and zero sexual or romantic experiences suddenly they forget they can also get frustrated from that and say sex and romantic experiences are not a big deal. They are lying to themselves and to us.

How can I not get frustrated with having to accept that I had to go through all my 21 years of life being FORCED to be a celibate, FORCED to accept that I'll never be validated as a sexual and romantic being, experiencing zero validation, feeling that there is a wall that separates me from sexhavers and normal people, knowing that out there there are teens way younger than me achieving the impossible objective of having sex, achieving my impossible dreams of life, while when I was their age I had to be a conformist and live life in my room playing videogames and being in YouTube, I had good grades in school because life was so boring that homework was seen as an exciting challenge in comparison, I have a pretty high sex drive and pretty strong romantic feelings, but it seems I'll have to cope with living with that important aspect of my life unsatisfied, and then I have to stand people who dare to judge me even though they never had to experience this level of scarcity, unsatisfaction and lack of validation that destroys your self-esteem, I know it's easy to judge me from their position of sexual abundance, but if they were in my situation they would see that this problem is not as easy to handle as they think, idiots.

Women don't owe men sex

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and

men don't owe foids not to seize them all by force and lock them ALL in underground breeding barns while shooting all simps who fail to applaud how great this idea of a foidless society is (with a Canon Eos Rebel 2).

 

[Mrugly420]

I'm owed reparations from soyciety.

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

The whole "owe you anything" angle is a cheap trick. If you engage with it, you accept that you only deserve what others decide you are "owed". And that you were demanding women have sex with you against their will.

The same logic is never used in other contexts, it's the perspective used to decide how to deal with enemies. Are cripples owed state support? Minorities? The poor? The mentally ill?
Why is every disadvantaged group owed help, sympathy and understanding except low status men?

I hate these leftist word play games. Name yourself "anti-facists" or "black lives matter". Now it feels bad to disagree with you because nobody wants to be seen disagreeing publicly with the name of the org itself.

On the one side, Black lives matter and on the other side, their opposition... you are fucked before you open your mouth.

Framing the incel debate as "men think they are owed sex" works the same way. Men are the aggressor, they are the ones making unreasonable demands, they are the problem, etc. When you start arguing with it, you first have to prove that you are not demanding sex from women against their will, by accepting their framing you are starting from an unwinnable position and in the defensive.

That these kind of tricks work at scale is just a symptom of how fucking retarded the average smarter-than-average person is. In a better world, the audience would see through these super cheap manipulations and start booing the ones using them off the stage, but we live in hell so...

 

[Murder Mario]

Then you've been cucked and brainwashed by modern society, buddy boyo.

Men provide women resources and protection. In return, women provide men sex and progeny. That's been the deal since humans started walking upright.

The problem is that women have been provided those things by society wholesale - completely gratis - without the expectation to fulfill their end of the bargain. Modern society, with all of its benefits and amenities, has written off women's collective debt in the ledger and has instead forced men, through laws and culture, to pay their end of the deal - that is as old as humanity itself - without absolutely anything in return. This is a form of slavery.

The saddest part isn't that men are becoming incels in historic record numbers. No, the saddest part is that men in the West have been brainwashed to accept that they haven't been getting fucked beyond their comprehension and that women have not, in fact, have had a free lunch for over 50 years and counting. And it's getting worse as we speak.

True tbh, @Robtical made a thread about women not paying taxes.

 

[based_meme]

True tbh, @Robtical made a thread about women not paying taxes.

No, they do pay taxes. There are obviously women in careers, many of whom are displacing men in the job market and out-earning them, but on average, as a demographic group, they're net beneficiaries (as opposed to contributors like men are).

 

[Murder Mario]

No, they do pay taxes. There are obviously women in careers, many of whom are displacing men in the job market and out-earning them, but on average, as a demographic group, they're a net beneficiaries (as opposed to contributors like men are).

True, that’s what I should have said.

 

[BPJ]

This is a weak counter-argument. Modern women don't care about relationships and can get them with ease anyway if they want.

What men don't owe women is their labour, resources and protection. These are what women need from men and men/society have handed to women on a silver platter. What men need from women is sex/reproduction, and both of these things are highly protected (meaning women have complete control over them). That's the trade.

based,

 

[JudeoBiden]

Men don't owe you protection from crime. This is why, if I see a woman being victimized, I'll walk right past.

 

[Drakul]

Also animals don't owe you their life, just become herbivore using that logic

 

[Cursed one]

It should be mentioned that that rhetoric is completely hypocritical as well. When it comes to the fact that men prefer younger women and women get less attention as they get older, foids get mad of that and feminists write articles blaming men for that and claiming that they should change their preferences. Same shit with fat foids and all that body positivity crap (that is always onesided). But where all that "you are not entitled to sex/relationships/love" bullshit in these cases? Foids are just selfish hypocrits.

 

[IceStorm]

Men don’t owe women safety eithER.

Women aren’t entitled to not being raped and/or viciously murdERed. AftER all, entitlements don’t exist right? Isn’t that what normies tell us constantly?

Sick of the level of entitlement women have these days

Exactly

@Murder Mario

 

[Cybersex is our hope]

This would make sense in a world where everyone has at least a tiny niche of women into them. In that cause you should just wait. It would make sense as you'd have an alternative and still want to fuck other women like a gluttonous thief.

But since AWALT you're like a poor man stealing an apple just to have something in his stomach. There's nothing more pleasurable than sex and nothing more comfortable than intimacy hence it's worse then being dead. Sub 5 people raping is self defense against a knife held by death imbued with hp devouring poison.

Yes rape is self defence

 

[LL maxi]

I don't owe society taxes

 

[copiumdealer]

Women don’t owe me sex.
• I don’t owe them protection, even if they get physically assaulted on the street.
• I don’t owe them a relationship.
• Chad doesn’t owe them an answer when he ghosts her after Pump and dump