Welcome to Incels.is - Involuntary Celibate Forum

Welcome! This is a forum for involuntary celibates: people who lack a significant other. Are you lonely and wish you had someone in your life? You're not alone! Join our forum and talk to people just like you.

Blackpill Why you should read romance novels for women

Fontaine

Fontaine

Overlord
★★★★★
Joined
Nov 15, 2017
Posts
5,417
You know, these best-selling novels with a Chad on the cover that are all over online book stores, and that are always a recycling of these two themes:

>Tall assertive billionaire comes into contact with shy girl
>"Bad boy" out of jail, or from an "alternative" culture, comes into contact with shy girl

They are very important to read in order to understand female psychology, because this is what women actually want to read. Instead of listening to David Futrelle, Vox or Salon to understand women, or to your therapist, or RooshV and Mystery, why not take a peak at what women actually like, buy, consume and evaluate 5/5 on the Play Store?

The quality of the writing is usually subpar, but they often display with perfect mastery the basic principles of sexuality in women:
  • Just like in males, there is a constant conflict between the female rational brain (neocortex, superego) and primitive brain (limbic system, ego)
  • The female rational brain wants a nice partner who treats her right, but the female primitive brain wants a physically attractive man who treats her badly. This results in scenes like "Chad wants to do X to me, I open my mouth to refuse and scream in anger, because I'm not a whore, but no words come out and I strangely obey, my vagina incredibly wet".
  • Women will do things for Chads that they will not do for lesser males
Once you have read these novels, you begin to highly doubt the benefits of sexual intercourse and matrimonial life for males that are not physically attractive and dominant.
 
It would reinforce my urge to rope or go ER is what it will do.
 
It's just a kink bro. It doesn't correlate with real lyfe.
 
I read the first 50 Shades of Grey and its sheer suifuel. Women cum in their pantys for a tall rich Chad. Yet call rape on an incel for saying so much as "hello"
 
Those books definitely show what women really want out of a guy/ relationship. It also further cements the fact that their "personality is more important that looks" statements r bullshit
 
It's just a kink bro. It doesn't correlate with real lyfe.
It necessarily correlates with real life since sex tends to activate the primitive brain rather than the neocortex.

If I were to guess, this translates in most "average" couples into:

- Chronic sexual insatisaction of the woman
- Reduced array of accepted sex acts compared to the male fantasies (aka "only for Chad")

The couples are roughly functional, but behind the curtains you can see some elements of frustration that may have something to do, in part, with the high rate of divorce.
 
Would rather read visual novels for men.
 
I read them all the time on wattpad.
 
Good advice, i red the 50Shades, shitty book. But i learnt something about the psychology of those women who buy that crap.

Why to read this shit? Points to consider, about those crappy plots of chick-lit, and conclusions about female readers nature:

-Protagonists are often shy girl, with poor sexual life, lower class than male choice.
-The male, have to bring the shy girl into his reality, to elevate the girl's status
-The girl, has something to learn, she will submit to the Chad, abandoning her previous world's view, she will give herself to Chad.
-Basic hypergamy notion explain ALL the plots of those shitty novels.
-Those novels are red by a huge portions of girls under 45yo.
-Protagonists are often single women, workers and inhabitants of big cities.
-Male choice, will always the best mating choice, the absolute ideal Chad. This will give an example of the women's favorite Chad among the Chads.
 
50 Shades of Grey already opened my eyes a look ago.They complain about male dominance and being treated like toys but they will wet if a millionare Chad bounds them and makes them his sluts.Feminism is the biggest lie ever told.
 
50 Shades of Grey already opened my eyes a look ago.They complain about male dominance and being treated like toys but they will wet if a millionare Chad bounds them and makes them his sluts.Feminism is the biggest lie ever told.
Yes and no, 50shade readers are retarded. But it is interesting to read this book because it has become a literary case. And the plot of the chick-lit books is still the same, it's not variating so much from book to book.

Chick-lit gives basic knowledge and practical examples of the hypergamous nature of femoids readers. A lot of femoids are chick-lit readers
 
Isaac Newton with access to a calculator level IQ - you can see this is an evolutionary preference rather than a culturally relative one because even in times in which marriages were semi-arranged, inter-familial financial agreements this literary trope still lurks visibly beneath the surface despite the moral incentive of the author to suppress it due to societal pressures present at the time of writing. If you read Wuthering Heights and Pride and Prejudice, both written almost 200 years ago, you can still see the archetype of the emotionally detached and socially aloof Chad enrolled as the leading heartthrob. Mr Darcy and Heathcliff are both dominant and intelligent characters who are seen to constantly shake their heads in knowing disapproval of the over-emotional female characters present in their respective novels, it’s almost as if having an unmoving rock of smouldering discontent is what draws women in, rather than an intimate and emotionally symbiotic relationship like that which is professed to be the societal ideal by men and women alike. Take a look at media designed to encapsulate generic male fantasy (I.e porn) and you will see the same, dominance is key to romantic fantasy. I find it to be a failure of both male and female psychology that power structures are so quintessentially innate to romantic relationships. Clearly human biology undermines the contrived narrative of self-sacrificial agape love which pretty much all humans have collectively bought into.
 
every time I read a woman romance novel theirs ALWAYS hints of bdsm
 
ISS high IQ thread

I never bothered reading that rubbish though..
 
You know, these best-selling novels with a Chad on the cover that are all over online book stores, and that are always a recycling of these two themes:

>Tall assertive billionaire comes into contact with shy girl
>"Bad boy" out of jail, or from an "alternative" culture, comes into contact with shy girl

They are very important to read in order to understand female psychology, because this is what women actually want to read. Instead of listening to David Futrelle, Vox or Salon to understand women, or to your therapist, or RooshV and Mystery, why not take a peak at what women actually like, buy, consume and evaluate 5/5 on the Play Store?

The quality of the writing is usually subpar, but they often display with perfect mastery the basic principles of sexuality in women:
  • Just like in males, there is a constant conflict between the female rational brain (neocortex, superego) and primitive brain (limbic system, ego)
  • The female rational brain wants a nice partner who treats her right, but the female primitive brain wants a physically attractive man who treats her badly. This results in scenes like "Chad wants to do X to me, I open my mouth to refuse and scream in anger, because I'm not a whore, but no words come out and I strangely obey, my vagina incredibly wet".
  • Women will do things for Chads that they will not do for lesser males
Once you have read these novels, you begin to highly doubt the benefits of sexual intercourse and matrimonial life for males that are not physically attractive and dominant.

Title sounded like PUA theory first, but Fontaine delivers an interesting new viewpoint as usual
 
Isaac Newton with access to a calculator level IQ - you can see this is an evolutionary preference rather than a culturally relative one because even in times in which marriages were semi-arranged, inter-familial financial agreements this literary trope still lurks visibly beneath the surface despite the moral incentive of the author to suppress it due to societal pressures present at the time of writing. If you read Wuthering Heights and Pride and Prejudice, both written almost 200 years ago, you can still see the archetype of the emotionally detached and socially aloof Chad enrolled as the leading heartthrob. Mr Darcy and Heathcliff are both dominant and intelligent characters who are seen to constantly shake their heads in knowing disapproval of the over-emotional female characters present in their respective novels, it’s almost as if having an unmoving rock of smouldering discontent is what draws women in, rather than an intimate and emotionally symbiotic relationship like that which is professed to be the societal ideal by men and women alike. Take a look at media designed to encapsulate generic male fantasy (I.e porn) and you will see the same, dominance is key to romantic fantasy. I find it to be a failure of both male and female psychology that power structures are so quintessentially innate to romantic relationships. Clearly human biology undermines the contrived narrative of self-sacrificial agape love which pretty much all humans have collectively bought into.
You can see similar depictions in most of the literature ever published, actually. It is less common to find bluepill statements in Western literature than redpill statements. Most great French authors were redpill or blackpill. (Emile Zola, a leftist, caused scandal in his time by writing about women falling in love with their rapists, lol).

There are taboos in place to deny our evolutionary nature, and these taboos are, by order of increasing strength:

1) Taboo on mental traits that each sex finds attractive: strong in mixed social settings (hypocrisy and delusion dominate), weak in specific social settings (friends of same age and gender), weak in media (literature, internet...)

2) Taboo on sexual intercourse: strong in mixed social settings, moderately strong in specific social settings, weak in media

3) Taboo on sexual acts associated with domination (aka sodomy, which used to include both oral and anal sex): very strong in mixed social settings, strong in specific social settings (nobody truly is comfortable discussing sodomy), moderately strong in media (even on this forum, "anal" is kind of a loaded word and discussions on sodomy are frowned upon)

4) Taboo on the importance of looks: very strong in mixed social settings, moderately strong in specific social settings (the ones most likely to freely discuss the importance of looks are groups of young female friends, but even then, the discussion is not totally free, and implies a lot of willful delusion about one's own level on the looks hierarchy, and the level of close friends or enemies), moderately strong in media (almost absent of literature and movies, and taboo subject on most internet forums).

As to the reason these taboos exist, my guess is that they evolved over the course of millions of years to improve social stability and decrease strife. Chads running around in a village, fucking every girl they can find, and laughing in the face of virgin ugly men, probably wasn't very conducive to social cooperation and brotherly love.
 
High IQ thread. Any suggestions?
 
High IQ thread. Any suggestions?
Just download excerpts of the most popular books on Google Play Store. They are quite long, and usually you can read some of the action without paying.
 
Did you actually read them? Isn't that's suicidefuel and ragefuel?
 
Did you actually read them? Isn't that's suicidefuel and ragefuel?
I read 50 Shades Of Grey (in full) a few years ago. That's where I learned women actually like to suck dick and swallow as long as they find the man attractive.

Recently I have read only excerpts of best-selling books on Google Play Store. One of them is about a female therapist who "treats" a Chad billionaire for anger management. One night, Chad goes to her place and almost without saying a word, begins to spank her and molest her. She wants to scream and make it stop, but no words come out of her mouth, and eventually she grows to like it.
 
I read 50 Shades Of Grey (in full) a few years ago. That's where I learned women actually like to suck dick and swallow as long as they find the man attractive.

Recently I have read only excerpts of best-selling books on Google Play Store. One of them is about a female therapist who "treats" a Chad billionaire for anger management. One night, Chad goes to her place and almost without saying a word, begins to spank her and molest her. She wants to scream and make it stop, but no words come out of her mouth, and eventually she grows to like it.
Damn, would be rage inducing for me to read. Would rather read psychological books tbhthb
 
Damn, would be rage inducing for me to read. Would rather read psychological books tbhthb
I find all of this funny and strangely endearing. Women are so predictable.
 
Male and female sexualities are different, which is why women tend to read erotica while men watch porn. It's about being wanted rather than wanting someone.
 
Absolutely this. Women have evolved over millions of years to want a man who has at least 3 of the following qualities:

- substantially taller than other men (note that it is in comparison to OTHER MEN, not HER)
- aggressive, violent sociopath who “plays by his own rules”
- face (we all know about this one...)
- wealth (only if it is top 0.1% though - a middle class pussy with a BMW doesn’t cut it)
 
Can you tell me how reading romances could potentially help me ease my basic emotional needs and importance of sexual life? I have read several of those and all it does is make me crave those things more, because when you read, you actually sympathize with protagonists and emulate their feelings. So how exactly it should help? To realize what people really crave I don't have to read some bs stories, there is enough blackpill everywhere else. Not to mention that such novels take these features to absurdum, exagerrate every aspect just to sell out more to brainwashed foids. Of course that a girl will go for best chad. Everyone like tales, that's what we have been fed since childhood.
 
Last edited:
While i'm all for learning about the female psyche and how it works, i'd rather not read something that will bore me to death, besides, i think most people here know the basics to that and so i don't recommend wasting money on a shitty female sexual fantasy book.
 
You know, these best-selling novels with a Chad on the cover that are all over online book stores, and that are always a recycling of these two themes:

>Tall assertive billionaire comes into contact with shy girl
>"Bad boy" out of jail, or from an "alternative" culture, comes into contact with shy girl

They are very important to read in order to understand female psychology, because this is what women actually want to read. Instead of listening to David Futrelle, Vox or Salon to understand women, or to your therapist, or RooshV and Mystery, why not take a peak at what women actually like, buy, consume and evaluate 5/5 on the Play Store?

The quality of the writing is usually subpar, but they often display with perfect mastery the basic principles of sexuality in women:
  • Just like in males, there is a constant conflict between the female rational brain (neocortex, superego) and primitive brain (limbic system, ego)
  • The female rational brain wants a nice partner who treats her right, but the female primitive brain wants a physically attractive man who treats her badly. This results in scenes like "Chad wants to do X to me, I open my mouth to refuse and scream in anger, because I'm not a whore, but no words come out and I strangely obey, my vagina incredibly wet".
  • Women will do things for Chads that they will not do for lesser males
Once you have read these novels, you begin to highly doubt the benefits of sexual intercourse and matrimonial life for males that are not physically attractive and dominant.
High iq bra. Would rep if this was bodybuilding.com

I’d like to add that guys have weird tastes and desires locked away in their lizard brains as well. Difference is society keeps them in place whereas the let womens’ run amok to the point where it’s borderline virtuous in some circles :woke:
 
High iq thread.
Females should not be allowed to do anything but make babies
 
Male and female sexualities are different, which is why women tend to read erotica while men watch porn. It's about being wanted rather than wanting someone.

This.

Women get excited by the feeling of being wanted. By being the sexual object themselves.
 
This is a PUA idea. The problem is they fail to issue the caveat that women want Chad to bend them over their knee and spank them, not Eugene. If Eugene dared such a thing he would have the police called on him and he'd find himself on the sex offender list.

It's the same as with 50 Shades of Grey. If the guy wasn't a good-looking millionaire the movie would be called 'Se7en'
 
True, one of the biggest black pills I ever got was from reading female romance fiction. 100% of it is about billionaire hot boys who are somehow attracted to a lazy and chubby Becky. This was the first time I realized something was terribly wrong with the opposite gender.

Also you said there's a conflict between the foid's rational and lizard brains. It's not a conflict, they just pretend they have a "good" side in front of men, cause if we realize they are 100% subhuman filth, we would have killed them with rocks a looong time ago.
 
Too bad there is no such thing as a shy femoid IRL, unless she has undergone extreme brainwashing to combat the existing brainwashing
 
I read the first 40 pages of 50 Shades when I was a PUA to understand. I could not handle how horribly it was written and how neurotic the female character was. I'm pretty sure I got the jist of it. Women want a rapist to come in and cuck her male orbiter friends (he does this, the main char doms her best friend through subtle gestures). She does not care about his looks or money based on what I have seen IRL, but you can all disagree. She just wants an abusive rapists who is insecure and dissatisfied with everything/complaintative/negative. Basically the biggest piece of shit she can find.
 
You know, these best-selling novels with a Chad on the cover that are all over online book stores, and that are always a recycling of these two themes:

>Tall assertive billionaire comes into contact with shy girl
>"Bad boy" out of jail, or from an "alternative" culture, comes into contact with shy girl

They are very important to read in order to understand female psychology, because this is what women actually want to read. Instead of listening to David Futrelle, Vox or Salon to understand women, or to your therapist, or RooshV and Mystery, why not take a peak at what women actually like, buy, consume and evaluate 5/5 on the Play Store?

The quality of the writing is usually subpar, but they often display with perfect mastery the basic principles of sexuality in women:
  • Just like in males, there is a constant conflict between the female rational brain (neocortex, superego) and primitive brain (limbic system, ego)
  • The female rational brain wants a nice partner who treats her right, but the female primitive brain wants a physically attractive man who treats her badly. This results in scenes like "Chad wants to do X to me, I open my mouth to refuse and scream in anger, because I'm not a whore, but no words come out and I strangely obey, my vagina incredibly wet".
  • Women will do things for Chads that they will not do for lesser males
Once you have read these novels, you begin to highly doubt the benefits of sexual intercourse and matrimonial life for males that are not physically attractive and dominant.
"Redondo, the 28-year-old billionaire playboy just out of prison for crimes against the animal kingdom, grabbed Varinessa by her sopping-wet coin purse. She almost resisted, but her undercarriage was throbbing like a steam engine. 'Fuck me.' she said. Redondo's powerful thrusting bruised Varinessa's porcelain skin, and dislocated her pelvis twice."

...yeah, any passing women (probably have been some in here) probably recognizes this scenario. And if you-know-who is also passing thru, I aint kidding, those books really are like that.
 
I already know foids want chad, I wouldn't want to read something that is ERfuel, I wouldn't want to ER unless I can ER like Thanos.
 
Very high IQ and excellent quality black pill.
 
didn't De Sade write "rape novels"
 
Erotica isn’t real, it’s what women want to be real.
 
like I said Marquis DeSade and The Handmaid's Tale are men's answer to romance novels. but only the De Sade stuff that glorifies the torture of women. Peter Sotos is similar.
 
Women want hard masculine gigachads to choke, beat, violate and pound them into submission with their 8 inch glorious dongs because it in their genetics to want the biggest alpha for reproduction reasons. I think the alternative cultures or billionaire status are irrelevant unless the man is attractive
 
It's disturbing to look at what women masturbate to, but we should look at this from a capitalist lens. Written erotica for women is a huge business with a constantneed to churn out product as well as the need for unique 'hooks' to attract customers. For example, women don't want to be raped by dinosaurs but there is donosaur rape erotica.
When was the last time you watched pro porn where the stars were in a loving monogamous relationship?
 
High iq thread
 
Many times the female MC doesn't have to be shy. Sometimes she's an empowered woman. Other times she's only shy around the Chad.

What's important is that the Chad is good looking and a badboy. He may or may not be a billionaire.

And he needs to be fixed by the female MC somehow. Usually sex is involved but mostly it's drama.
 
I prefer books that make women seem inferior and stupid. like I said Peter Sotos is good for that shit.
 

Similar threads

Nordicel94
Replies
45
Views
654
BlackPillJourney
B
Logic55
Replies
11
Views
363
Starfish Vs Koala
Starfish Vs Koala
CEO of Simps
Replies
15
Views
443
Rapistcel
Rapistcel
highschoolcel
Replies
10
Views
357
Eternalifeofdoom
Eternalifeofdoom
BSGMANLET
Replies
5
Views
272
Mecoja
Mecoja

Users who are viewing this thread

shape1
shape2
shape3
shape4
shape5
shape6
Back
Top