Serious Why were Brahmins Respected and Had High Status in India, But They Don't Anymore?

[universallyabhorred]

One time my grandmother was telling me, that I should be respected because I am a Brahmin and we are better than other people. However, my parents told me even in their time Brahmins weren't high status or respected as a community. What changed how did we go from the top of Indian society to mostly ignored and sometimes even marginalized and persecuted caste example Kashmiri Pandits? Sure many of them are highly educated and some are successful and wealthy but this has to do with effort not ancestry. What led to our fall?

@JayGoptri thoughts?

 

[Khanivore]

look at your face, thats the problem

also westernization

 

[Retardfuel]

Should have larped as Mugal invader or some invader

 

[trying to ascend]

Because dalits are becoming christians and muslims to escape hindu oppression

 

[_meh]

Lol, nonIndiancels like myself wouldn't understand this or understand anything what you're saying.

 

[NiggerMan]

Lol, nonIndiancels like myself wouldn't understand this or understand anything what you're saying.

Hole cope
If you are an incel then you are a curry by default

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All of us are curries @Copexodius Maximus

 

[Subhuman100]

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One time my grandmother was telling me, that I should be respected because I am a Brahmin and we are better than other people. However, my parents told me even in their time Brahmins weren't high status or respected as a community. What changed how did we go from the top of Indian society to mostly ignored and sometimes even marginalized and persecuted caste example Kashmiri Pandits? Sure many of them are highly educated and some are successful and wealthy but this has to do with effort not ancestry. What led to our fall?

@JayGoptri thoughts?

because the original brahmin race(iranid-european) mixed out and became mutts

 

[ShortestManlet_2]

I don't understand much about caste system in india, but probably westernization has to do with it.

 

[Misogynist Curry 卐]

I don't understand much about caste system in india, but probably westernization has to do with it.

On point!

 

[mlcurrycel]

One time my grandmother was telling me, that I should be respected because I am a Brahmin and we are better than other people. However, my parents told me even in their time Brahmins weren't high status or respected as a community. What changed how did we go from the top of Indian society to mostly ignored and sometimes even marginalized and persecuted caste example Kashmiri Pandits? Sure many of them are highly educated and some are successful and wealthy but this has to do with effort not ancestry. What led to our fall?

@JayGoptri thoughts?

Look at Bollywood, people value gangsters and prostitutes over knowledge and academics

 

[Copexodius Maximus]

One time my grandmother was telling me, that I should be respected because I am a Brahmin and we are better than other people. However, my parents told me even in their time Brahmins weren't high status or respected as a community. What changed how did we go from the top of Indian society to mostly ignored and sometimes even marginalized and persecuted caste example Kashmiri Pandits? Sure many of them are highly educated and some are successful and wealthy but this has to do with effort not ancestry. What led to our fall?

@JayGoptri thoughts?

Nigga, you are on an English forum and you haven’t figured out the caste system is just retarded cope? Brootal. If your community leaders couldn’t stop getting cucked ans humiliated by mayos and muslims, why would curries keep respecting you jfl. Even looking from the outside it seems obvious to me.

Hole cope
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We already know curries are considered as the ugliest race on earth (some might say rices, but that's still a debate). But in general, curryceldom takes its toll in the most severe way. To quantify ugliness, we generally use different rating schemes, like PSL etc. Regardless of any type of...

incels.is

All of us are curries @Copexodius Maximus

Chudur budur pilled

 

[JayGoptri]

One time my grandmother was telling me, that I should be respected because I am a Brahmin and we are better than other people. However, my parents told me even in their time Brahmins weren't high status or respected as a community. What changed how did we go from the top of Indian society to mostly ignored and sometimes even marginalized and persecuted caste example Kashmiri Pandits? Sure many of them are highly educated and some are successful and wealthy but this has to do with effort not ancestry. What led to our fall?

Outsourcing this one to @K9Otaku

@JayGoptri thoughts?

I will provide my personal perspective as well, but a bit later.

 

[JayGoptri]

On point!

Not fully. Depends on the timeframe of history we are talking about.

I don't understand much about caste system in india, but probably westernization has to do with it.

It does. But like everything important it is a piece of the puzzle to OPs question, not the whole pie !

 

[K9Otaku]

One time my grandmother was telling me, that I should be respected because I am a Brahmin and we are better than other people. However, my parents told me even in their time Brahmins weren't high status or respected as a community. What changed how did we go from the top of Indian society to mostly ignored and sometimes even marginalized and persecuted caste example Kashmiri Pandits? Sure many of them are highly educated and some are successful and wealthy but this has to do with effort not ancestry. What led to our fall?

@JayGoptri thoughts?

Hi, I did a lecture at Bangalore U. for the grad students of the Sociology and History departments last September on this topic. Here are the slides:

TLDR: Brahmins gave their children a kind of "learned OCD" through their style of education (reciting the Veda before knowing its meaning, learning the Ashtadyayi Sanskrit grammar sutras (= computer program) and executing them by heart, executing ritual flawlessly like robots). This learned OCD made them in turn the best accountants and tax collectors ever. That is why every king in India, and even the Muslims and the brits, wanted to employ them as such. This is what gave them their status.

Their undoing was their encounter with Western Christianity. One of the main tenet of this religion is that this kind of "learned OCD" is to be rejected as "Pharisaic" (Luke 11:37-54 "Woe to you pharisee hypocrites ...", etc) The Christians had a point and, in any case, they proved so superior to Brahmins that this encounter discredited the latter in the eyes of other Indians.

 

[Dravidiancel]

Dalits are basically niggers of India,they have reservation and use other loopholes to attain positions of power meanwhile i see Brahmins rotting in education sector with low wage jobs.This is why they are losing respect.

 

[Zer0/∞]

Dalits are basically niggers of India,they have reservation and use other loopholes to attain positions of power meanwhile i see Brahmins rotting in education sector with low wage jobs.This is why they are losing respect.

how about us muzzies?

 

[Broly]

Hole cope
If you are an incel then you are a curry by default

The Universality of Curryceldom [New Year's Post]

We already know curries are considered as the ugliest race on earth (some might say rices, but that's still a debate). But in general, curryceldom takes its toll in the most severe way. To quantify ugliness, we generally use different rating schemes, like PSL etc. Regardless of any type of...

incels.is

All of us are curries @Copexodius Maximus

 

[Dravidiancel]

how about us muzzies?

1 in 4 beggars in Indian a Muslim.Muslim Indians are more economically disadvantaged and dissatisfied than Indians of other religious groups. Muslims are more likely than the Indian population overall to live below the poverty line

 

[Zer0/∞]

1 in 4 beggars in Indian a Muslim.Muslim Indians are more economically disadvantaged and dissatisfied than Indians of other religious groups. Muslims are more likely than the Indian population overall to live below the poverty line

@Transcended Trucel

 

[Blackpilltheorist2]

One time my grandmother was telling me, that I should be respected because I am a Brahmin and we are better than other people. However, my parents told me even in their time Brahmins weren't high status or respected as a community. What changed how did we go from the top of Indian society to mostly ignored and sometimes even marginalized and persecuted caste example Kashmiri Pandits? Sure many of them are highly educated and some are successful and wealthy but this has to do with effort not ancestry. What led to our fall?

@JayGoptri thoughts?

TBH

I have met a lot of high caste indian folk who expect chad and stacies to befriend them in the us and become disturbed by the social rejection. India fascinates me, because within 15 seconds of me meeting an indian person I usually can tell what caste they are from.

 

[Transcended Trucel]

@Transcended Trucel

it's over. Us curry Muslims were the lowest caste and converted out to not have to be caste mogged and money mogged(well now trend reversed ogre).

 

[DenHaag]

Intellectuals/learned classes in so many societies have been in a weird spot with some token respect, but not the status that comes with power or wealth.

Modern economies make for some intersection between these worlds, i.e., with education you might be able to get some power and wealth and therefore status.

It's not one axis.

And anyway the vast majority of people for three generations across the world has not read a book in their adult lives. Respect for the learned is obsolete.

As to caste -- what does it matter if someone is a Brahmin but is functionally illiterate? (Not saying that about you -- just saying generally.) Who cares that a hundred years ago the family was well read?