EyesAreSoCold
Overlord
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I keep seeing people being persuaded by the normies favourite anti-incel slogan "you're not entitled to sex!" and even here many seems to surrender to it with a defeatist reasoning "can't fight nature bro". I would say however that we are entitled to sex and we would either get it through a social contract which our society depends upon or in the case of a dissolution of civilization we would simple get it through brute force.
The social contract was first properly formulated by English philosopher Thomas Hobbes in the 17th century(but the main idea had been known at least since Plato) and it explains how a society can function without God. He first proposes that all humans are inherently selfish and if allowed to submit fully to our nature we would steal, kill, rape, or whatever our biological instincts told us whenever we saw fit to do so and that would result in complete chaos and not really beneficial to many. Another example of this natural behaviour is the women's sexual selection which if allowed to its full extent will reject any less than the top tier male, both men's natural violence and women's hypergamy are terrible for a world where both would have to live together. But remember that even the weakest man is stronger than a woman and in the wild where only strength and cunning dictates the weak is raped and killed all the time, so the woman will be an obvious loser in this system.
A solution to this problem is the belief in an all powerful God that decides what rules humanity should follow and if you disobey you would go to hell or if you were good you would ascend/go to heaven. But since the belief in God declined after the middle ages it was no longer something we could rely upon so Hobbes explained that we can uphold order through the social contract. Which is that we all informally agree to follow some reasonable rules and cooperate so that order can be maintained, I don't steal from you and you don't steal from me. A state that promises punishment for the offender is also effective to keep everything in place. With this system sex can be distributed more evenly if woman's sexual selection is suppressed and in return the women would be safe from violence if men are indoctrinated in the same way to suppress his nature.
This gave every man a stake in society and women who are physically weaker were given protection and spared the hard toil for daily living that she was not fit for. But what happens if you realize you are a loser in this deal and this promised society is worse than the natural state of ego vs ego? That could be said have happened to all men that are left without sex, we still follow all these rules and contribute to the greater collective while sex is being reserved for a minority that have no greater burdens than us. The contract is no physical law, we only agree to it if we want and if we no longer see it beneficial we can pull out and go back to nature.
The conclusion is that if we all agree to be civilized we can claim sex through some cooperation, or if society falls we would just be able to take it.
The social contract was first properly formulated by English philosopher Thomas Hobbes in the 17th century(but the main idea had been known at least since Plato) and it explains how a society can function without God. He first proposes that all humans are inherently selfish and if allowed to submit fully to our nature we would steal, kill, rape, or whatever our biological instincts told us whenever we saw fit to do so and that would result in complete chaos and not really beneficial to many. Another example of this natural behaviour is the women's sexual selection which if allowed to its full extent will reject any less than the top tier male, both men's natural violence and women's hypergamy are terrible for a world where both would have to live together. But remember that even the weakest man is stronger than a woman and in the wild where only strength and cunning dictates the weak is raped and killed all the time, so the woman will be an obvious loser in this system.
A solution to this problem is the belief in an all powerful God that decides what rules humanity should follow and if you disobey you would go to hell or if you were good you would ascend/go to heaven. But since the belief in God declined after the middle ages it was no longer something we could rely upon so Hobbes explained that we can uphold order through the social contract. Which is that we all informally agree to follow some reasonable rules and cooperate so that order can be maintained, I don't steal from you and you don't steal from me. A state that promises punishment for the offender is also effective to keep everything in place. With this system sex can be distributed more evenly if woman's sexual selection is suppressed and in return the women would be safe from violence if men are indoctrinated in the same way to suppress his nature.
This gave every man a stake in society and women who are physically weaker were given protection and spared the hard toil for daily living that she was not fit for. But what happens if you realize you are a loser in this deal and this promised society is worse than the natural state of ego vs ego? That could be said have happened to all men that are left without sex, we still follow all these rules and contribute to the greater collective while sex is being reserved for a minority that have no greater burdens than us. The contract is no physical law, we only agree to it if we want and if we no longer see it beneficial we can pull out and go back to nature.
The conclusion is that if we all agree to be civilized we can claim sex through some cooperation, or if society falls we would just be able to take it.