Discussion Why there aren't many (good) incel villain?

[Buried Alive 2.0]

I believe it's because we'd make very bad ones. Good villains have strong motivations for their objectives, and to do that Hollywood would have to show our suffering and rejection first, to build character, but that would make people sympathize with the villain and see women as evil, which they are. The only exceptions I can think of are the Joker and Littlefinger.

I believe very soon we will start seeing a stronger influx of movies/series where the main villain's defining factor is that he hates women. This is a very poor motivator and something nobody can relate to, not even us, because this hate raises the question "why does he hates women?" and if there is a good answer to this he'll be an awfully written character. Movies like this will only be successful with people who already have pre-established misandry, because it will just validate them. It's propaganda and fearmongering.

 

[EnglishCel]

Because we are not the villains we are the victims.

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

Littlefinger is attractive, successful and owns his own brothel. He lost the fight for his first love, but outside of that he is a player. Still an enjoyable villain.

Think you pretty much got the reasons.

Society is gynocentric and willfully ignorant. Why is there no good villain who hates transsexuals? Because writing someone harboring legit grievances against the whole biological-sex-denying insanity would kill your career. Even if it didn't, most creatives are heavily left-leaning, they don't want to write such a character anyways and wouldn't have the intellectual flexibility to entertain a transphobic perspective and try to steelman it.

There are no good incel villains because we are hated and no one wants to present us in a sympathetic light. Instead they write us like the old monks used to write the devil. Stupid, obviously unlikeable and evil, completly one-dimensional, carricatures of real humans suffering in social and romantic isolation. To grant us sympathy would be to make yourself guilty of thought crime. Going along with the witch hunt against us is a public purity test, if normies notice or not.

There is a necessity to produce sympathetic fiction ourselves. Someone with creative ambitions should give funneling his life experiences into a story a try.

 

[PurgatoryPass]

A good villian is sympathetic on some level. They just wouldn't dare go against the narrative.

 

[Buried Alive 2.0]

Littlefinger is attractive, successful and owns his own brothel. He lost the fight for his first love, but outside of that he is a player. Still an enjoyable villain.

In the book he is different. And he gets sex because he owns whores and probably has a monopoly on pimping.

Why is there no good villain who hates transsexuals? Because writing someone harboring legit grievances against the whole biological-sex-denying insanity would kill your career.

Writing a good villain who hates transsexuals is very possible and would make sense though. Just show a father who had a child manipulated by the trans movement and biology-deniers. Show its the suffering during the transition, the pressure from its trans "friends" and the child dying. Or even better: a story about a FtM trans learning the harsh realities of being a man and starting to hate himself and other trans.

I feel like you missed some points: by good villain I mean a well written character and a well written incel villain is almost an oxymoron, so they resort to writing incel villains like you said.

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

In the book he is different. And he gets sex because he owns whores and probably has a monopoly on pimping.

I only read the books. In those he is very smooth, he fairly easily seduces the daughter of his former first love and plays on a horny widows' love for him to gain control over her son, land and people. He controls one nobel woman through sex and fake romance while secretly seducing a younger one, succeeding in both. He is wealthy and influential. I don't remember how his looks are described but I don't think he was hideously ugly.

I feel like you missed some points: by good villain I mean a well written character and a well written incel villain is almost an oxymoron, so they resort to writing incel villains like you said.

Ah, ok, so you meant that if an incel character was well-written he wouldn't fit the roll of a villain because he would be too sympathetic and it would risk people siding with him after learning either some new facts about female nature or seeing the world through his perspective?

 

[Eminemshalfbrother]

I believe it's because we'd make very bad ones. Good villains have strong motivations for their objectives, and to do that Hollywood would have to show our suffering and rejection first, to build character, but that would make people sympathize with the villain and see women as evil, which they are. The only exceptions I can think of are the Joker and Littlefinger.

I believe very soon we will start seeing a stronger influx of movies/series where the main villain's defining factor is that he hates women. This is a very poor motivator and something nobody can relate to, not even us, because this hate raises the question "why does he hates women?" and if there is a good answer to this he'll be an awfully written character. Movies like this will only be successful with people who already have pre-established misandry, because it will just validate them. It's propaganda and fearmongering.

Villains are good looking. People wanna fuck the villains. If an incel did some villain shit, they’re a “monster”

 

[Buried Alive 2.0]

I only read the books. In those he is very smooth, he fairly easily seduces the daughter of his former first love and plays on a horny widows' love for him to gain control over her son, land and people. He controls one nobel woman through sex and fake romance while secretly seducing a younger one, succeeding in both. He is wealthy and influential. I don't remember how his looks are described but I don't think he was hideously ugly.

True, point taken. Had forgotten about this.

Ah, ok, so you meant that if an incel character was well-written he wouldn't fit the roll of a villain because he would be too sympathetic and it would risk people siding with him after learning either some new facts about female nature or seeing the world through his perspective?

Yes, but this is regarding being bitter, cynical, nihilistic, hateful of women and not going ER. Not all goals are justifiable.

 

[BELOW_Average_Joe]

The new Batman movie's Riddler was an incel and boy, did the normies have a go at that one. Just relentlessly mocking him for being an autist

 

[BELOW_Average_Joe]

Villains are good looking

They're usually ugly, actually. The handsome villain trope is a thing, see Loki for example. The writers literally retconned aspects of his character bc foids were thirsting over him so much

 

[Buried Alive 2.0]

Villains are good looking. People wanna fuck the villains. If an incel did some villain shit, they’re a “monster”

They're usually ugly, actually. The handsome villain trope is a thing, see Loki for example. The writers literally retconned aspects of his character bc foids were thirsting over him so much

There are both kinds

 

[The Darkcel]

Any time I've seen an "incel" villain, they usually get their ass kicked by a libtard "hear me whore!" foid. I hate Hollywood.

 

[Buried Alive 2.0]

Any time I've seen an "incel" villain, they usually get their ass kicked by a libtard "hear me whore!" foid. I hate Hollywood.

Where have you seen this?

It's propaganda, as foids know they have white knight backing them.

 

[The Darkcel]

Where have you seen this?

It's propaganda, as foids know they have white knight backing them.

This is like every action / horror movie that's made in the last 20-something years. lmao

 

[Buried Alive 2.0]

This is like every action / horror movie that's made in the last 20-something years. lmao

ahh I see. I don't watch this genre.

 

[lazy_gamer_423]

because (((hollywood))) is run by kikes

 

[Serpents reign]

Because we are not the villains we are the victims.

 

[The Darkcel]

ahh I see. I don't watch this genre.

Any movie that has a female protagonist, the villain is always some scummy looking dude. I've always noticed this. They'll never have a woman fight another woman, because it would go against their feminist / sisterhood agenda. Foids will join forces to destroy the "patriarchy" and kill all the men in a single movie, and mainstream audiences love this shit. Literally, like.... fuck society.

 

[lazy_gamer_423]

fuck society.

its fucking itself jfl

 

[Buried Alive 2.0]

Any movie that has a female protagonist, the villain is always some scummy looking dude. I've always noticed this. They'll never have a woman fight another woman, because it would go against their feminist / sisterhood agenda. Foids will join forces to destroy the "patriarchy" and kill all the men in a single movie, and mainstream audiences love this shit. Literally, like.... fuck society.

What you described exists too, but there are plenty of movies/series with foid rivalry. They will even make it that way so a male good guy simp won't have to beat the enemy foid. It's been a while since I've male-female violence in movies, where the man wins, as he should always.

 

[zunzun8888]

we are the victims.

Totally agree. We are the victims of this world. We did not ask to be born. We has no freedom to choose family, country, or even our body but to accept it unwillingly. Still, we face the uncertainty of afterlife in case of roping. This world is so unfair. Life is painful.

 

[The Darkcel]

What you described exists too, but there are plenty of movies/series with foid rivalry. They will even make it that way so a male good guy simp won't have to beat the enemy foid. It's been a while since I've male-female violence in movies, where the man wins, as he should always.

Tbf, I don't go out of my way to watch any movie or series that's made in the last decade at this point. I'd rather stick to my old-school 70's-early 2000's shit. It was just better back then. Not as gay (literally) as it is now. So, whether or not there are male-female mixed fighting or not, I don't take the chance, because I know how it always ends. Some skinny 90lbs foid beats up 20 bouncer guys at once. Fucking just lol

 

[Buried Alive 2.0]

Tbf, I don't go out of my way to watch any movie or series that's made in the last decade at this point. I'd rather stick to my old-school 70's-early 2000's shit. It was just better back then. Not as gay (literally) as it is now. So, whether or not there are male-female mixed fighting or not, I don't take the chance, because I know how it always ends. Some skinny 90lbs foid beats up 20 bouncer guys at once. Fucking just lol

I understand completely. The skinny 90 lb foid beating 20 guys happens a lot, most actions movie have it, which makes them shit.

 

[GmeOvr]

Paul Calder Leroux, he is my favorite villain.
He made 400 million USD, selling drugs through illegal online pharmacies (You know the viagra and hair loss medicine spam you receive in your spam box).
He also SEAmaxed to the Philippines where he had his own harem, it is said that he bred over 20 hapacels. Mind blowing

 

[CroatianManlet2]

Normies can't symphatize with incels

 

[Buried Alive 2.0]

Paul Calder Leroux, he is my favorite villain.
He made 400 million USD, selling drugs through illegal online pharmacies (You know the viagra and hair loss medicine spam you receive in your spam box).
He also SEAmaxed to the Philippines where he had his own harem, it is said that he bred over 20 hapacels. Mind blowing

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He's had more than one wife.

 

[GmeOvr]

He's had more than one wife.

He had more sex than the chadiest sex, sometimes orgies. Dark triad works, but only for the top 0.1%