Serious Why the decline of (Christian) religion is cause for the state of the west (simps and thots) is not only due to missing morals in females.

[mänline]

The moral commands to live holy, be faithful to your wife etc. is one thing. I think the aspect of social morals and how they were linked to religion as codex as group morals but also as a thing, which influenced peoples behavior by giving the expectancy of a coming judgment by the creator of the world; even agnostics and atheists agreed on this here many times. (at least the first point)
Christians would agree with me when I point to the spiritual deadness of the world and the depravity and corruption of the human soul, which can only bring God and his Spirit back in alignment when man turns to God.
But I want to point out a more practical, but hopefully by all kinds of readers understandable factors

Because when there is a God who said: "I am the way the truth and the life"
and who said: "‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’"
and also said: "But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman to lust after her has already committed adultery with her in his heart. "
this changes also something in the relationship a man has to women or earthly pleasures.

Imagine a society, where these truths are at least 50% internalized in men's minds and lived by. There would no porn epidemic, there would no simping, no twitch Tiktok Thotery and vanity, men would have the leverage over women because they fall in worth, when God become the real worth and their real dependency in their life, not some chicks attention, eye pleasure or approval by other guys because of abundant pussy access. It is not only a lack of morals and guidance in females which feeds hypergamy, narcissism and looks vanity, but the men, who put all their energy, love, and heart into the approval of these chicks and striving for wind in this world.
Yes, lookism is still a reality in the church, but idolatry over the female creation doesn't take place.

@Mainländer @FlamingCel

 

[Deleted member 27204]

SJW standards of morality stem from Christian ethics like it or not @Transcended Trucel @ReturnOfSaddam
The idea that women need to be protected and cherished that was in place for so long in western countries is heavily rooted in Christianity too.

 

[Mecoja]

Men will always be manipulated by women and turned into simp because he lust for her. Internet maked that 1000000x but it was there since beginning.

 

[mänline]

SJW standards of morality stem from Christian ethics like it or not @Transcended Trucel @ReturnOfSaddam
The idea that women need to be protected and cherished that was in place for so long in western countries is heavily rooted in Christianity too.

1. Even if this would be true, what has this to do with the point? It seems you only read the headline.
2. SJW has not even universality of mankind as view, like it is in Christianity, since male and white is linked with evil, the new Bourgeoisieof this neo-communists. I mean, even the Mafia has moral codexes. How do you think it stems from Christian ethics?
3. You won't even find a command in the New Testament to husbands for handling wives about protection and cherishing, but to love them and to have sex with them regularly, and that with honor and not greedy lust.
4. Linking some critical traditional values in (Ex-)Christian societies with something is like linking Islam to honor killings of daughters.

 

[Deleted member 33091]

Based and Christpilled

However don't tag @Mainländer since he's a pedo who larps as a Christian.

@FlamingCel is also another LARPer who is not a Christian. Both of them are going to be eternally damned

 

[grondilu]

The world existed before Jesus Christ, you know.

Hell, it also existed before even Abraham.

 

[Deleted member 31122]

CUCKtianity was cucked since the beginning tbh

Based and Christpilled

However don't tag @Mainländer since he's a pedo who larps as a Christian.

@FlamingCel is also another LARPer who is not a Christian. Both of them are going to be eternally damned

Jfl, don't you want to ropemaxx soon? And you are believing in christian god at the same time?

 

[Deleted member 33091]

Jfl, don't you want to ropemaxx soon? And you are believing in christian god at the same time?

Just because I believe God is real doesn't mean I don't hate him with every fiber of my being. I am looking forward to my eternity in damnation.

 

[mänline]

The world existed before Jesus Christ, you know.

Hell, it also existed before even Abraham.

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Please don't shift to general credibility or otherwise general topic around religion here. Thanks

 

[FlamingCel]

Just because I believe God is real doesn't mean I don't hate him with every fiber of my being. I am looking forward to my eternity in damnation.

You will not go to hell boyo.I believe in you

 

[solblue]

I made a similar post a few months back and I agree. Inceldom and general apathy are a result of a decline of Christianity in the West. It's almost a given that the US will become more religious again as white atheists don't reproduce while white Christians and ethnics do, but I think we were born too early for that to be helpful for our dating woes...

 

[radishman]

I made a similar post a few months back and I agree. Inceldom and general apathy are a result of a decline of Christianity in the West. It's almost a given that the US will become more religious again as white atheists don't reproduce while white Christians and ethnics do, but I think we were born too early for that to be helpful for our dating woes...

Wonder if future generations they will see the mistake "we" made giving foid's rights.

 

[Deleted member 33091]

Wonder if future generations they will see the mistake "we" made giving foid's rights.

History tends to repeat itself.

 

[radishman]

History tends to repeat itself.

Yeah the bible and other texts told us not to and we didn't listen. So we'll make another book to warn the future and they won't listen again.

 

[solblue]

Wonder if future generations they will see the mistake "we" made giving foid's rights.

We'll probably go through a cycle of anti-feminism and then end up back where we are again. It seems giving females legal protections was a pandora's box of sorts and that won't be walked back as long as the US exists in its current form

 

[radishman]

We'll probably go through a cycle of anti-feminism and then end up back where we are again. It seems giving females legal protections was a pandora's box of sorts and that won't be walked back as long as the US exists in its current form

Pandora of course is a foid who caused a mess. There's a shocker.

 

[Caesercel]

History tends to repeat itself.

The damage done by industrialization is pretty irreversible now. And nowadyas internet only compounds it

 

[Deleted member 33091]

We'll probably go through a cycle of anti-feminism and then end up back where we are again. It seems giving females legal protections was a pandora's box of sorts and that won't be walked back as long as the US exists in its current form

It's not just America. This is centuries of brainwashing that has led us to this point. Centuries. It would require a purging fire to go back to where we were before. People are SO brainwashed these days, it is staggering. I can't even watch 99% of mainstream entertainment due to this.

 

[Deleted member 27204]

1. Even if this would be true, what has this to do with the point? It seems you only read the headline.

I did read the rest of what you posted. It suggests going back to the system of the old that led to feminism in the first place.
"Imagine a society, where these truths are at least 50% internalized in men's minds and lived by. There would no porn epidemic, there would no simping, no twitch Tiktok Thotery and vanity, men would have the leverage over women because they fall in worth, when God become the real worth and their real dependency in their life, not some chicks attention, eye pleasure or approval by other guys because of abundant pussy access. It is not only a lack of morals and guidance in females which feeds hypergamy, narcissism and looks vanity, but the men, who put all their energy, love, and heart into the approval of these chicks and striving for wind in this world."

@NoCopeNoHope himself has discussed this.

You are suggesting that the reason things are so bad is because people stopped following Christian principles. It's Christian principles that enforced the cycle of traditionalism and seeing women as weaker and needing to be protected. You don't see such a culture that strong that emerged in places like East Asia.

2. SJW has not even universality of mankind as view, like it is in Christianity, since male and white is linked with evil, the new Bourgeoisieof this neo-communists. I mean, even the Mafia has moral codexes. How do you think it stems from Christian ethics?

The concept of original sin, that if you are not with us you are against us, the dualism of good versus evil, the concept of having to be a good samaritan, are all things SJWs also believe in. Many SJWs profess that if Christianity was more about being a moral person instead of focusing on sexual immorality, they'd still be religious. Many Jesuits and liberal theologists have been compared to Christians in their religious fervor and proselytizing for social justice.

3. You won't even find a command in the New Testament to husbands for handling wives about protection and cherishing, but to love them and to have sex with them regularly, and that with honor and not greedy lust.

Ephesians 5:32-33
1 Peter 3:7

The ESV version of 1 Corinthians 13:4-7 has the famous "love is patient, love is kind" verse that has been recited at weddings.


It enforces the idea that a husband ought to love (in the romantic sense) his wife. It furthers the idea that marriage is not just a business arrangement but about love and so introduces goal posts for what love should be. It contributes to the idea of romantic love which @SlayerSlayer has said is something incels should be against.

4. Linking some critical traditional values in (Ex-)Christian societies with something is like linking Islam to honor killings of daughters.

The grounds of feminism were originally rooted in enforcing Christian traditionalism and chastising husbands that weren't productive or given to abuse. It painted women as victims of abuse by men and that men owe some kind of responsibility to women.

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