Discussion Why sex is evil, sexual nihilism explained

[Homegrownman326]

I've often discussed the sense of nihilism that engaging with sex (jerking off) and observing it as a force in the world creates for me. I dubbed this "sexual nihilism". I credited this to the fact that sex wouldn't exist without death. Death is something that creates an immense amount of destress for me. My latest explanation has to do with fatalism and Gnosticism. I believe that we're all victimized by existence. We never choose to exist, we never choose to exist the way we are, to be who we are and all the ensuing faults. And yet in life you're punished every step of the way for choices you never made and things you cannot control. I believe that engaging in sex, the act which creates suffering makes you forgo your existential victimhood. By having sex you're no longer the victim, but now the victimizer. Bring up the fact that you never chose to exist to your parents. Their reaction will tell you everything about how deluded breeders are. There has been a long standing cultural idea of sex causing one to lose their innocence. I think I discovered the origin of that idea. Engaging with sexuality causes one to not be against the world but to be consumed by it. You lose the innocence of being estranged from the evil of the world. Having sex is like looking directly at the horrors of life on earth and endorsing it. Now it has consumed the essence of your being. You're indistinguishable from the world's evil, no longer a mere victim.

 

[Grodd]

Sex is evil and unfair because i never get any.

 

[ihatelife2]

You are correct but jerking off doesn't produce children so I think jerking off is ok

 

[HeightpillVictim]

Based post, Sex is pure evil

 

[Ricecel Sungnodius]

I believe that we're all victimized by existence. We never choose to exist, we never choose to exist the way we are, to be who we are and all the ensuing faults.

Good point. I've questioned why I am here so many times, and questioned the universe and its fundamental laws, such as gravity, electromagnetic forces, and quarks.

Engaging with sexuality causes one to not be against the world but to be consumed by it.

I want to add to this. In my opinion, engaging with sexuality outside a commited relationship is like succmbing to an animalistic desire. I mean, with all the risks of pregnancy and just a 5 second orgasm, objectively, this is a bad deal. I also think sex should be between 2 close people because it's intimate.

 

[xek000000kk]

 

[Krad]

I've often discussed the sense of nihilism that engaging with sex (jerking off) and observing it as a force in the world creates for me. I dubbed this "sexual nihilism". I credited this to the fact that sex wouldn't exist without death. Death is something that creates an immense amount of destress for me. My latest explanation has to do with fatalism and Gnosticism. I believe that we're all victimized by existence. We never choose to exist, we never choose to exist the way we are, to be who we are and all the ensuing faults. And yet in life you're punished every step of the way for choices you never made and things you cannot control. I believe that engaging in sex, the act which creates suffering makes you forgo your existential victimhood. By having sex you're no longer the victim, but now the victimizer. Bring up the fact that you never chose to exist to your parents. Their reaction will tell you everything about how deluded breeders are. There has been a long standing cultural idea of sex causing one to lose their innocence. I think I discovered the origin of that idea. Engaging with sexuality causes one to not be against the world but to be consumed by it. You lose the innocence of being estranged from the evil of the world. Having sex is like looking directly at the horrors of life on earth and endorsing it. Now it has consumed the essence of your being. You're indistinguishable from the world's evil, no longer a mere victim.

I like sex


Even if i never had in my life.


But just the possibility of having laid makes me happy and excited, because sex good.

 

[Krad]

I've often discussed the sense of nihilism that engaging with sex (jerking off) and observing it as a force in the world creates for me. I dubbed this "sexual nihilism". I credited this to the fact that sex wouldn't exist without death. Death is something that creates an immense amount of destress for me. My latest explanation has to do with fatalism and Gnosticism. I believe that we're all victimized by existence. We never choose to exist, we never choose to exist the way we are, to be who we are and all the ensuing faults. And yet in life you're punished every step of the way for choices you never made and things you cannot control. I believe that engaging in sex, the act which creates suffering makes you forgo your existential victimhood. By having sex you're no longer the victim, but now the victimizer. Bring up the fact that you never chose to exist to your parents. Their reaction will tell you everything about how deluded breeders are. There has been a long standing cultural idea of sex causing one to lose their innocence. I think I discovered the origin of that idea. Engaging with sexuality causes one to not be against the world but to be consumed by it. You lose the innocence of being estranged from the evil of the world. Having sex is like looking directly at the horrors of life on earth and endorsing it. Now it has consumed the essence of your being. You're indistinguishable from the world's evil, no longer a mere victim.

If we were immortal, and it had no suffering here, and infinite resources, and no types of negative things, would sex be pure good?

 

[MuhDigitalFootprint]

I've often discussed the sense of nihilism that engaging with sex (jerking off) and observing it as a force in the world creates for me. I dubbed this "sexual nihilism". I credited this to the fact that sex wouldn't exist without death. Death is something that creates an immense amount of destress for me. My latest explanation has to do with fatalism and Gnosticism. I believe that we're all victimized by existence. We never choose to exist, we never choose to exist the way we are, to be who we are and all the ensuing faults. And yet in life you're punished every step of the way for choices you never made and things you cannot control. I believe that engaging in sex, the act which creates suffering makes you forgo your existential victimhood. By having sex you're no longer the victim, but now the victimizer. Bring up the fact that you never chose to exist to your parents. Their reaction will tell you everything about how deluded breeders are. There has been a long standing cultural idea of sex causing one to lose their innocence. I think I discovered the origin of that idea. Engaging with sexuality causes one to not be against the world but to be consumed by it. You lose the innocence of being estranged from the evil of the world. Having sex is like looking directly at the horrors of life on earth and endorsing it. Now it has consumed the essence of your being. You're indistinguishable from the world's evil, no longer a mere victim.

Premium high iq cope

 

[VanGobbel]

 

[fokusin]

Sex is evil and unfair because i never get any.

 

[GloriousMisanthrope]

High IQ post.

 

[Homegrownman326]

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You people are absolute retards. "Here's a philosophical take that questions the legitimacy of an ingrained human desire and impulse, ultimately rejecting a part of one's own nature. Clearly, that's a cope". The cope is to deny that sexuality has any adverse effects on consciousness, life outcomes, and ethics.

 

[Homegrownman326]

I just wanted to clarify one of my main points. I'm basically trying to say that we exist within a primarily fatalistic world. We're all victimized by that. We're all born without our consent, the ultimate fatalism. My point is that engaging with sexuality, the act of creation, removes your ability to claim to be a mere victim in it all. You're directly engaging with the evil of the world. All of my thoughts on sexual nihilism ultimately come from "post-nut clarity'. Instead of repressing it, I actually listened, and I realized that I want to cease being a sexual being. For 10 years of my life, I didn't even know what sex was; I had no desire for it. Not having it caused zero suffering. I never consented to going through puberty, much like I never consented to life itself. I also failed to mention sexuality's relationship with free will. You can't will what you want; it's a desire that's imposed upon us. Sexuality also hinders rational thought. People make many poor decisions when horny and later regret it, hence "post-nut clarity". It's no longer a mystery to me why cultures throughout history ritualized sex and religions repressed it. Human sexuality is a complete cluster fuck. We could've evolved to be 100% monogamous, as that's proven to be the most effective sexual relationship in an industrial society. We could've evolved to have a mating season instead of being horny 24/7. But that's a broader point regarding how humans are, in many ways, evolutionary failures.

 

[gymletethnicel]

Sex is evil and unfair because i never get any.

 

[IWWorkER]

Sex is evil and unfair because i never get any.

 

[xek000000kk]

I find your idea quite interesting, so please let me discuss it with you

I believe that we're all victimized by existence. We never choose to exist, we never choose to exist the way we are, to be who we are and all the ensuing faults

By having sex you're no longer the victim, but now the victimizer.

I believe that existence is a neutral state, and therefore calling it a victim requires a comparative standard that non-existence is better; this judgment is clearly subjective rather than an objective truth. You are merely imposing a pessimistic moral framework onto a biological act; if you believe that life is suffering, that is your own experience, not the nature of the act of reproduction.
If life has any positive value, then the creation of life is a neutral or positive act. You must be able to prove that creativity is a harmful act

. I believe that we're all victimized by existence. We never choose to exist, we never choose to exist the way we are, to be who we are and all the ensuing faults.

You cannot impose the concepts of suffering and consent on non-existent states; a non-existent entity cannot refuse or consent. You are also assuming that suffering is the sole essence of life, overlooking all positive aspects.

Bring up the fact that you never chose to exist to your parents. Their reaction will tell you everything about how deluded breeders are.

You can’t expect your parents to be philosophers; they’re living beings, and living beings always reproduce.

Having sex is like looking directly at the horrors of life on earth and endorsing it. Now it has consumed the essence of your being

Reproduction is the absolute truth of life. If reproduction is evil, then you are also evil, and therefore you have no right to judge it. As I see it, you’re just clinging to the label of victim to give yourself a sense of moral superiority.

Engaging with sexuality causes one to not be against the world but to be consumed by it.

false dichotomy
In fact, there are countless other ways to approach the world.

All of my thoughts on sexual nihilism ultimately come from "post-nut clarity'.

Desire is a natural part of being human; you’re deliberately denying it.

I realized that I want to cease being a sexual being. For 10 years of my life, I didn't even know what sex was; I had no desire for it.

It’s your stuff, not the other incels’. Can you be a little more objective, brocel?

Sexuality also hinders rational thought. People make many poor decisions when horny and later regret it, hence "post-nut clarity".

In addition to sexual desire, any intense emotion—such as anger, fear, or hunger—can also hinder rational thinking; therefore, we don’t need to completely suppress our emotions for some foolish reason. To me, the issue is simply that you lack self-control.

Human sexuality is a complete cluster fuck. We could've evolved to be 100% monogamous, as that's proven to be the most effective sexual relationship in an industrial society.

You don’t understand anything about evolutionary theory. Evolution simply optimizes for the survival and replication of genes across diverse and changing environments; it doesn’t concern itself with the morality of religious sects, industrial society, or anyone’s happiness. If humans have made sex complicated and messy, that’s their own evolution.

 

[SpookySpook]

Basically antinatalism but hating the act of sex along with child birth

 

[good]

You are correct but jerking off doesn't produce children so I think jerking off is ok

It’s gay and vile.

 

[Gaelic-Truecel]

Reproduction is the absolute truth of life. If reproduction is evil, then you are also evil, and therefore you have no right to judge it. As I see it, you’re just clinging to the label of victim to give yourself a sense of moral superiority.

I disagree. That would be like saying someone who was conceived through rape can't be against rape.
If you've not engaged in reproduction yourself it doesn't make you a hypocrite for judging others for doing it.

 

[t3mcel]

Sex is evil and unfair because i never get any.

holy true. i just want some sax bro

 

[Homegrownman326]

I find your idea quite interesting, so please let me discuss it with you


I believe that existence is a neutral state, and therefore calling it a victim requires a comparative standard that non-existence is better; this judgment is clearly subjective rather than an objective truth. You are merely imposing a pessimistic moral framework onto a biological act; if you believe that life is suffering, that is your own experience, not the nature of the act of reproduction.
If life has any positive value, then the creation of life is a neutral or positive act. You must be able to prove that creativity is a harmful act

You cannot impose the concepts of suffering and consent on non-existent states; a non-existent entity cannot refuse or consent. You are also assuming that suffering is the sole essence of life, overlooking all positive aspects.

You can’t expect your parents to be philosophers; they’re living beings, and living beings always reproduce.

Reproduction is the absolute truth of life. If reproduction is evil, then you are also evil, and therefore you have no right to judge it. As I see it, you’re just clinging to the label of victim to give yourself a sense of moral superiority.

false dichotomy
In fact, there are countless other ways to approach the world.

Desire is a natural part of being human; you’re deliberately denying it.

It’s your stuff, not the other incels’. Can you be a little more objective, brocel?

In addition to sexual desire, any intense emotion—such as anger, fear, or hunger—can also hinder rational thinking; therefore, we don’t need to completely suppress our emotions for some foolish reason. To me, the issue is simply that you lack self-control.

You don’t understand anything about evolutionary theory. Evolution simply optimizes for the survival and replication of genes across diverse and changing environments; it doesn’t concern itself with the morality of religious sects, industrial society, or anyone’s happiness. If humans have made sex complicated and messy, that’s their own evolution.

Fuck off, glow-nigger

 

[xek000000kk]

Fuck off, glow-nigger

If you truly valued this post and your own thoughts, you wouldn’t have responded that way, would you?

 

[xek000000kk]

I disagree. That would be like saying someone who was conceived through rape can't be against rape.

Rape has also been a reproductive strategy since prehistoric times; if someone is born as a result of rape, that is proof of its success. Whether that person resists it is another matter; if they actually do, I’d bet they’re just repeating the moral codes that their sect has drilled into them, using illusions to deny the very thing that gave them life.

If you've not engaged in reproduction yourself it doesn't make you a hypocrite for judging others for doing it.

I don’t see the connection. In fact, the fact that you haven’t reproduced doesn’t give you any moral standing to judge others. Judgment requires an objective moral system, which doesn’t actually exist. As I see it, you’re probably just using your cult’s moral labels to delude yourself into thinking you have some kind of moral superiority, just to forget the fact that your genes will disappear forever.

 

[Zionist]

This world is a hell realm

 

[Homegrownman326]

If you truly valued this post and your own thoughts, you wouldn’t have responded that way, would you?

I'm not going to engage honestly with someone who's clearly dishonest. You're normscum and some kind of shill. Therefore reason isn't viable.

 

[xek000000kk]

I'm not going to engage honestly with someone who's clearly dishonest. You're normscum and some kind of shill. Therefore reason isn't viable.

Alright, fair

 

[Homegrownman326]

This world is a hell realm

Indeed, if any religion is correct, some variation of gnosticism is probably it. The human condition is so appalling that sometimes I feel like it cannot be reasonably explained by mere chance.

 

[Zionist]

Indeed, if any religion is correct, some variation of gnosticism is probably it. The human condition is so appalling that sometimes I feel like it cannot be reasonably explained by mere chance.

Think we are too divided as whole, people on the left are obnoxious, I hope they all die. If I had the chance to kill all the leftists, I'd do it in a heartbeat

 

[Wolfstorm]

Matter is frozen light.

 

[GloriousMisanthrope]

I believe that existence is a neutral state, and therefore calling it a victim requires a comparative standard that non-existence is better; this judgment is clearly subjective rather than an objective truth. You are merely imposing a pessimistic moral framework onto a biological act; if you believe that life is suffering, that is your own experience, not the nature of the act of reproduction.
If life has any positive value, then the creation of life is a neutral or positive act. You must be able to prove that creativity is a harmful act

It's true that pain and pleasure are both part of life, therefore making it theoretically neutral. But we didn't choose to exist and some individuals have terrible lives caused by factors outside of their control, we should have the right to choose weather we want to live or not. In my view, this is a human rights issue and euthanasia should be legalized globally. Suicide is risky and it could go terribly wrong leaving several crippling injuries. You can be victimized by existence, that's just a fact, look up cases like Frederick Brennan if you don't believe. Not existing is better than living in misery.

 

[OverLoner]

Sex is evil and unfair because i never get any.

Pretty much what this thread sounds like.

 

[Rapemaxxer]

I find your idea quite interesting, so please let me discuss it with you


I believe that existence is a neutral state, and therefore calling it a victim requires a comparative standard that non-existence is better; this judgment is clearly subjective rather than an objective truth. You are merely imposing a pessimistic moral framework onto a biological act; if you believe that life is suffering, that is your own experience, not the nature of the act of reproduction.
If life has any positive value, then the creation of life is a neutral or positive act. You must be able to prove that creativity is a harmful act

You cannot impose the concepts of suffering and consent on non-existent states; a non-existent entity cannot refuse or consent. You are also assuming that suffering is the sole essence of life, overlooking all positive aspects.

You can’t expect your parents to be philosophers; they’re living beings, and living beings always reproduce.

Reproduction is the absolute truth of life. If reproduction is evil, then you are also evil, and therefore you have no right to judge it. As I see it, you’re just clinging to the label of victim to give yourself a sense of moral superiority.

false dichotomy
In fact, there are countless other ways to approach the world.

Desire is a natural part of being human; you’re deliberately denying it.

It’s your stuff, not the other incels’. Can you be a little more objective, brocel?

In addition to sexual desire, any intense emotion—such as anger, fear, or hunger—can also hinder rational thinking; therefore, we don’t need to completely suppress our emotions for some foolish reason. To me, the issue is simply that you lack self-control.

You don’t understand anything about evolutionary theory. Evolution simply optimizes for the survival and replication of genes across diverse and changing environments; it doesn’t concern itself with the morality of religious sects, industrial society, or anyone’s happiness. If humans have made sex complicated and messy, that’s their own evolution.

Rape has also been a reproductive strategy since prehistoric times; if someone is born as a result of rape, that is proof of its success. Whether that person resists it is another matter; if they actually do, I’d bet they’re just repeating the moral codes that their sect has drilled into them, using illusions to deny the very thing that gave them life.

I don’t see the connection. In fact, the fact that you haven’t reproduced doesn’t give you any moral standing to judge others. Judgment requires an objective moral system, which doesn’t actually exist. As I see it, you’re probably just using your cult’s moral labels to delude yourself into thinking you have some kind of moral superiority, just to forget the fact that your genes will disappear forever.

Based and high iq

 

[Homegrownman326]

It's true that pain and pleasure are both part of life, therefore making it theoretically neutral. But we didn't choose to exist and some individuals have terrible lives caused by factors outside of their control, we should have the right to choose weather we want to live or not. In my view, this is a human rights issue and euthanasia should be legalized globally. Suicide is risky and it could go terribly wrong leaving several crippling injuries. You can be victimized by existence, that's just a fact, look up cases like Frederick Brennan if you don't believe. Not existing is better than living in misery.

Pain far outweighs pleasure in every conceivable way. To believe that pain and pleasure are even a polarity is to be utterly deluded.

 

[Aquaworshipper]

sex isnt evil nigga youre just coping cos you cant get any yourself. but whatever keeps you coping ig.

 

[Squatting Slavcel]

So if a horny gigastacy was in your room you'd reject her because sex is evil?

 

[Homegrownman326]

So if a horny gigastacy was in your room you'd reject her because sex is evil?

The intellectual belief that sex is primarily evil in substance doesn't inherently mean that I, as a sexual being, will or even have the ability to not engage with it.

 

[Homegrownman326]

sex isnt evil nigga youre just coping cos you cant get any yourself. but whatever keeps you coping ig.

The fact that two bodies could touch in such an intimate way, but no minds ever could, is, in my view, inherently evil.

 

[razielkillerofgods]

High quality post