Theory Why no one cares about the fast decline of men's Testosterone levels?

[med-cel]

No, most doctors are not idiots lol. Furthermore, there is a lot of fluctuation/variance throughout the day with free testosterone levels.
Just going by a single blood draw at some random time in the day could mean the actual mean free testosterone is 2.5x higher than this or 2.5x less than this.
There is a lot of oversimplication(as well as some just plain falsehoods) in this thread about testosterone levels. I'm not an endocrinologist but am pretty familar with the matter.
One other thing I'd like to add- it's a good idea to steer clear of these 'men's health clinics' that are pretty much one size fits all and generally not run by specialists/endocrinologists. It's not very individualized care and pretty much everyone that comes in, regardless of their specific circumstances and workup, is put on the exact same monthly testosterone supplementation regimen. It's just not ideal care....

You're right, but I don't see how doctors can not prescribe TRT to someone with multiple tests under 10 nmol/L because it's still within the reference range.

 

[southeastoldcel]

You're right, but I don't see how doctors can not prescribe TRT to someone with multiple tests under 10 nmol/L because it's still within the reference range.

When I treated lowT patients I would generally be more aggressive with treatment(and focus more on symptomatic improvement rather than
being a slave to f/u labs), so I agree with you in general. I just hate these 'men's clinics' that generally provide crappy care imo.

 

[Rotter]

Two major causes:

1. Lifestyle: People are eating more goyslop and exercising less. The body responds accordingly.
2. Xenoestrogens: We are surrounded by chemicals that affect the body the same way estrogen does. They are in plastics, water and virtually every day-to-day item you can imagine.

3. Porn
4. Matriachy

 

[med-cel]

When I treated lowT patients I would generally be more aggressive with treatment(and focus more on symptomatic improvement rather than
being a slave to f/u labs), so I agree with you in general. I just hate these 'men's clinics' that generally provide crappy care imo.

Yeah, I agree with you. Putting everyone on TRT like some clinics do isn't the answer

 

[Namtriz912]

Because men are still contributing to society and coping with porn.

 

[fastnbulbous]

It's so over for men nowadays, we are little more than cattle for the powerful and the chads

 

[based_meme]

There is a lot of oversimplication(as well as some just plain falsehoods) in this thread about testosterone levels. I'm not an endocrinologist but am pretty familar with the matter.

Hey brocel, could you please point the falsehoods out?

 

[turbosperg]

I can't say for sure that somehow the decline of T levels is manufactured on purpose.

I can.

All those chemicals are manufactured on purpose by the sabatean kikes in order to weaken Edom.

 

[Atavistic Autist]

Some exercise is nice, especially in nature. A lot of normies, however, overtrain and hurt their hormones even more.

Yes, if you overdo it, then this will increase cortisol and wreck your hormones.

 

[Ventingblackpiller]

Why is Testosterone crucial for male well-being?

Gymcels are probably already aware of the key roles that Testosterone plays in the male body:

• muscle mass and bones
• facial and pubic hair
• body’s development of deeper voice
• mood and quality of life
• propensity to develop depression and other afflictions
• verbal memory and thinking ability

In short, having *normal T levels it's incredibly important, both physically and psychologically.
* (doctors have been consistently lowering the amount of T considered normal)


Why are T levels dropping and the what are the health implications for men?


Unfortunately, numerous studies have found that T levels have been on a steady drop of about 1%/year in the average 40 year old man. This is unrelated to aging as these studies compare subjects from the 80's/90's/00's with those of today. The reasons for this decline are for the most part unknown even tough processed food, obesity and plastics are all contributing factors, T levels are mostly determined by genetics and the first phases of our growth.

Dropping T levels comes with an increase in reproductive disorders like testicular cancer, increased likelihood of depression and other mental illnesses, reduced memory, sleep disturbances, decreased muscle mass, decreased bone density (...).

Sperm counts, for example, have decreased 60% in the past two generations. Men are almost three times less fertile than they used to be and at this rate of descend will become infertile in about 50 years.

What this means for the average men is that he looks and literally is less of a man than the average joe was 50 years ago. You can find normies talking about this if you search "Why high schoolers looked so much older in the past?" on youtube, although most of them argue that it is just a psychological effect jfl.


Why no one seems to care?

The other day, I was scheduling a routine bloodwork and asked the doctor if he could check my T levels. The doctor immediately started interrogating me KGB style and ultimately denied me to even get to know what my T levels were. I went online and found out that, at least in countries that have some sort of national health care, doctors are extremely reluctant in allowing men to test their T levels.

So, why does no one seems to care that, at this rate, if you take a man in 2040 and take him back to 1987 his T levels would be closer to those of a woman than a man?

Control.

Let's imagine you were a king in the middle ages preparing to invade another kingdom. What would be your first priority?

Kill the half of the population that can resist being invaded (men).

In order to control a large group of people you only need to control the men, since they are the ones capable of physically challenging you.



Conclusion

Of course I can't say for sure that somehow the decline of T levels is manufactured on purpose.

What I can say is that we know that T levels are dropping and we know the implications that it has, but nothing is being made because it inadvertently helps to exert control and mitigate the half of the population that is capable of overthrowing those that hold the power.

Nigga they are resolving this problem by letting women fuck hight t chads , that's why society is so cucked. The t levels soon or later will restabilize .

 

[Slut_Annihilator298]

Why is Testosterone crucial for male well-being?

Gymcels are probably already aware of the key roles that Testosterone plays in the male body:

• muscle mass and bones
• facial and pubic hair
• body’s development of deeper voice
• mood and quality of life
• propensity to develop depression and other afflictions
• verbal memory and thinking ability

In short, having *normal T levels it's incredibly important, both physically and psychologically.
* (doctors have been consistently lowering the amount of T considered normal)


Why are T levels dropping and the what are the health implications for men?


Unfortunately, numerous studies have found that T levels have been on a steady drop of about 1%/year in the average 40 year old man. This is unrelated to aging as these studies compare subjects from the 80's/90's/00's with those of today. The reasons for this decline are for the most part unknown even tough processed food, obesity and plastics are all contributing factors, T levels are mostly determined by genetics and the first phases of our growth.

Dropping T levels comes with an increase in reproductive disorders like testicular cancer, increased likelihood of depression and other mental illnesses, reduced memory, sleep disturbances, decreased muscle mass, decreased bone density (...).

Sperm counts, for example, have decreased 60% in the past two generations. Men are almost three times less fertile than they used to be and at this rate of descend will become infertile in about 50 years.

What this means for the average men is that he looks and literally is less of a man than the average joe was 50 years ago. You can find normies talking about this if you search "Why high schoolers looked so much older in the past?" on youtube, although most of them argue that it is just a psychological effect jfl.


Why no one seems to care?

The other day, I was scheduling a routine bloodwork and asked the doctor if he could check my T levels. The doctor immediately started interrogating me KGB style and ultimately denied me to even get to know what my T levels were. I went online and found out that, at least in countries that have some sort of national health care, doctors are extremely reluctant in allowing men to test their T levels.

So, why does no one seems to care that, at this rate, if you take a man in 2040 and take him back to 1987 his T levels would be closer to those of a woman than a man?

Control.

Let's imagine you were a king in the middle ages preparing to invade another kingdom. What would be your first priority?

Kill the half of the population that can resist being invaded (men).

In order to control a large group of people you only need to control the men, since they are the ones capable of physically challenging you.



Conclusion

Of course I can't say for sure that somehow the decline of T levels is manufactured on purpose.

What I can say is that we know that T levels are dropping and we know the implications that it has, but nothing is being made because it inadvertently helps to exert control and mitigate the half of the population that is capable of overthrowing those that hold the power.

Knowing how fucked up things are rn, I'm convinced Jesus will return in our lifetime.

 

[therealfonz]

BBill

Why is Testosterone crucial for male well-being?

Gymcels are probably already aware of the key roles that Testosterone plays in the male body:

• muscle mass and bones
• facial and pubic hair
• body’s development of deeper voice
• mood and quality of life
• propensity to develop depression and other afflictions
• verbal memory and thinking ability

In short, having *normal T levels it's incredibly important, both physically and psychologically.
* (doctors have been consistently lowering the amount of T considered normal)


Why are T levels dropping and the what are the health implications for men?


Unfortunately, numerous studies have found that T levels have been on a steady drop of about 1%/year in the average 40 year old man. This is unrelated to aging as these studies compare subjects from the 80's/90's/00's with those of today. The reasons for this decline are for the most part unknown even tough processed food, obesity and plastics are all contributing factors, T levels are mostly determined by genetics and the first phases of our growth.

Dropping T levels comes with an increase in reproductive disorders like testicular cancer, increased likelihood of depression and other mental illnesses, reduced memory, sleep disturbances, decreased muscle mass, decreased bone density (...).

Sperm counts, for example, have decreased 60% in the past two generations. Men are almost three times less fertile than they used to be and at this rate of descend will become infertile in about 50 years.

What this means for the average men is that he looks and literally is less of a man than the average joe was 50 years ago. You can find normies talking about this if you search "Why high schoolers looked so much older in the past?" on youtube, although most of them argue that it is just a psychological effect jfl.


Why no one seems to care?

The other day, I was scheduling a routine bloodwork and asked the doctor if he could check my T levels. The doctor immediately started interrogating me KGB style and ultimately denied me to even get to know what my T levels were. I went online and found out that, at least in countries that have some sort of national health care, doctors are extremely reluctant in allowing men to test their T levels.

So, why does no one seems to care that, at this rate, if you take a man in 2040 and take him back to 1987 his T levels would be closer to those of a woman than a man?

Control.

Let's imagine you were a king in the middle ages preparing to invade another kingdom. What would be your first priority?

Kill the half of the population that can resist being invaded (men).

In order to control a large group of people you only need to control the men, since they are the ones capable of physically challenging you.



Conclusion

Of course I can't say for sure that somehow the decline of T levels is manufactured on purpose.

What I can say is that we know that T levels are dropping and we know the implications that it has, but nothing is being made because it inadvertently helps to exert control and mitigate the half of the population that is capable of overthrowing those that hold the power.

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