Serious Why Nazism was based (in certain ways) and also why it failed

[K9Otaku]

Nazism was based because it was anti-individualistic. It dared to say that a man is nothing on his own and that it is only as a part of a bigger whole that he can have a meaningful life. Three example of Nazi messages and belief which were correct in relation to this:

• The first propaganda movie about their annual rally at Nuremberg was called "the victory of faith". "faith" is what binds you to a greater whole that transcends you.
• The dagger that was given to SS recruits on their admission bore the inscription "Meine ehre ist mein treue" (my honor is my faithfulness). Same as above.
• The führer prinzip, i.e., unquestioning obedience to the leader. If you want something real to be done, there is no way around this.

Now, what went wrong?

From these correct principles, the Nazis went on to develop an ideology that was too much in a hurry. They wanted results now, or at most in a few years. And so they focused on bogus targets, like the Jews. And they did things in a bumbling and sloppy way.

They invested huge efforts in gassing Jews while they were losing the war, in 1944. What could that possibly achieve apart from providing a massive but utterly futile cope to the few diehards who were aware of what was going on?

Above all, they chose a transcendent entity, "Das Deutches Volk" (the German People, in a racial sense) that just did not exist. Germans were mongrels like everybody else. All kinds of barbarians (including Huns and Mongols) had raped their way through the German plain at various periods. Germanic peoples themselves had crossed vast areas, before settling in Germany, where they had intermingled with all sorts of peoples (Uralics, Siberians, Celts, etc). Germans were not more racially pure than anybody else. There are no human "races".

We all sense that there was something correct in Nazism. The problem now is how to untangle that from the crap.

 

[CrackingYs]

Getting rid of all the Jews allowed Germany to flourish and become one of the strongest countries in the world. That's the little tidbit that the world wants to keep a secret. National Socialism was very successful, and very quickly resulted in immense power and resources. Once all the Jews are eliminated it's like taking the brakes off the economy. You no longer have jew middlemen at all levels of the economy sucking the wealth out everyone.

The world still beats Holocaust bullshit into everyones consciousness but it's all just to cover up that the Jews are the problem and National Socialism is the solution.

 

[Linesnap99]

everyone should watch this before

View: https://www.bitchute.com/video/cssXkCAPV3jY/

 

[GhostedPhantom]

The führer prinzip, i.e., unquestioning obedience to the leader. If you want something real to be done, there is no way around this.

Yes, results are best achieved in an ordered hierarchy with a single goal. That is why the military has a strict hierarchical structure and why even companies which pretend to have a flat structure are actually a hierarchy.

The problem is that the goals are decided only by the ones at the top, who usually put their own desires and greed first and don't care about the welfare of people under them. This is especially true for huge countries like the USA, where the connection between the individual and the whole is virtually nonexistent - American soldiers die not in the name of their country but in the name of a bunch of influential kikes they haven't even heard of.

Given this, I don't know how the Roman Empire managed to have such a successful military for so long. I guess it had an excellent cultural/political momentum from the period during which it was still a small republic.

Since this is in ID, it begs the question - how does this relate to inceldom? I think it would be cool if we united for a meaningful cause, but it would mostly resemble a chaotic 4chan campaign instead of something with a structure. Plus, nothing is truly meaningful given the blackpill.

And so they focused on bogus targets, like the Jews.

I think it wasn't a bogus target - all aggressive ideologies/communities need a common enemy as a way to strengthen their unity. China is doing something similar by declaring the west as an enemy. Also, feminism would be nothing if foids didn't have the imaginary boogeyman patriarchy to unite against. I wonder how much less Nazism would've spread if they didn't do that.

Getting rid of all the Jews allowed Germany to flourish and become one of the strongest countries in the world.

You might be right. I have yet to hear a good explanation of why kikes tend to be in so many positions of power without being overwhelmingly smart, and why they love banking so damn much. I'd guess either it's caused by Jewish culture, or something in Ashkenazim kike DNA leads to a higher likelihood for psychopathy.

everyone should watch this before

View: https://www.bitchute.com/video/cssXkCAPV3jY/

Contains Incitement to Hatred

Bruh. Even BitChute is cucked now?!

 

[Lycan]

everyone should watch this before

View: https://www.bitchute.com/video/cssXkCAPV3jY/

too long didn't watch

that video is like 6 hours, summarize it pls

 

[WizardofSoda]

Ya a huge mistake of the Nazis was trying to do everything way, way too fast. Hitler was probably the wisest man of the century in the 20th century. His natural intellect what out of this world, and he read 1-2 books a day for 20 years, being interested in everything.

But he didn't understand re-rolling religion. And he tried to rush all these goals in his life.

A great leader starts the processes which he did, and builds the institutions which he did, and sets the mission statements which he did and importantly a great leader ensures the long term stability of the project which he failed at.. and the great leader something of critical importance is finding the next leader to go after him.

Julius Caesar found Augustus to take over after he died. Julius Caesar started the processes in Rome, but he actually was assassinated quite quickly. But he found Augustus who was only then like 20 years old, but Julius Caesar could see Augustus had the natural intellect and shared the general mission. It was Augustus ruling for like 40+ years that institutionalized Julius Caesar's revolution.


Eugenics is a thousand year+ project. It doesn't have to be rushed. Rushing jeopardizes the whole project. You even have to accept on a project spanning many lifetimes there will be setbacks, things you learn that have to be changed, as well as fortuitous circumstances.

Getting rid of all the Jews allowed Germany to flourish and become one of the strongest countries in the world. That's the little tidbit that the world wants to keep a secret. National Socialism was very successful, and very quickly resulted in immense power and resources. Once all the Jews are eliminated it's like taking the brakes off the economy. You no longer have jew middlemen at all levels of the economy sucking the wealth out everyone.

The world still beats Holocaust bullshit into everyones consciousness but it's all just to cover up that the Jews are the problem and National Socialism is the solution.

Ya they always forget that aspect. Another thing is the Nazis were able to build national socialist states and the all the institutions in the countries like France, which were never taken down after the war.

The French national health system for example was built by the Nazis and to this day runs on national socialist principles.

Even losing 1/4 of your population to achieve long term goals isn't that bad. Because they can just be re-born.

As I expected the whole world is going into social credit now, the economic ideology of Nazism. There just was no choice anymore. Hitler was way ahead of his time implementing that in the 1930's.

 

[Linesnap99]

too long didn't watch

that video is like 6 hours, summarize it pls

actually let me try it talks about the start of banks and lending and then talks about holocauat and war and depression. how certain gropus have influence over cluntries and things like that.

Even BitChute is cucked now?!

its a courtesy

 

[JayGoptri]

Ya a huge mistake of the Nazis was trying to do everything way, way too fast. Hitler was probably the wisest man of the century in the 20th century. His natural intellect what out of this world, and he read 1-2 books a day for 20 years, being interested in everything.

But he didn't understand re-rolling religion. And he tried to rush all these goals in his life.

A great leader starts the processes which he did, and builds the institutions which he did, and sets the mission statements which he did and importantly a great leader ensures the long term stability of the project which he failed at.. and the great leader something of critical importance is finding the next leader to go after him.

Julius Caesar found Augustus to take over after he died. Julius Caesar started the processes in Rome, but he actually was assassinated quite quickly. But he found Augustus who was only then like 20 years old, but Julius Caesar could see Augustus had the natural intellect and shared the general mission. It was Augustus ruling for like 40+ years that institutionalized Julius Caesar's revolution.


Eugenics is a thousand year+ project. It doesn't have to be rushed. Rushing jeopardizes the whole project. You even have to accept on a project spanning many lifetimes there will be setbacks, things you learn that have to be changed, as well as fortuitous circumstances.


Ya they always forget that aspect. Another thing is the Nazis were able to build national socialist states and the all the institutions in the countries like France, which were never taken down after the war.

The French national health system for example was built by the Nazis and to this day runs on national socialist principles.

Even losing 1/4 of your population to achieve long term goals isn't that bad. Because they can just be re-born.

As I expected the whole world is going into social credit now, the economic ideology of Nazism. There just was no choice anymore. Hitler was way ahead of his time implementing that in the 1930's.

Hmmm.

 

[RetardedChinlet]

Nazism was based because it was anti-individualistic. It dared to say that a man is nothing on his own

This is good fucking shit. Modern day gaslighting is all about making men believe lonely labor is an admirable way to live life. Other men will gaslight incels by telling them not to make themselves "dependent" on women or other people.

 

[JayGoptri]

This is good fucking shit. Modern day gaslighting is all about making men believe lonely labor is an admirable way to live life.

Other men will gaslight incels by telling them not to make themselves "dependent" on women or other people.

Yeah but if you think that anyone who says don't be dependent on women is negatively "Gaslighting" then I don't agree. There is more to explain. And if the person EXPLAINS more in a supportive way, it's not Gaslighting in the negative sense.

 

[K9Otaku]

This is good fucking shit. Modern day gaslighting is all about making men believe lonely labor is an admirable way to live life. Other men will gaslight incels by telling them not to make themselves "dependent" on women or other people.

Yes. But we incels have trouble accepting the idea that there must be something above us.

Most of us still retain this idea that we must be independent individualists

 

[nystagmuscel]

Getting rid of all the Jews allowed Germany to flourish and become one of the strongest countries in the world. That's the little tidbit that the world wants to keep a secret. National Socialism was very successful, and very quickly resulted in immense power and resources. Once all the Jews are eliminated it's like taking the brakes off the economy. You no longer have jew middlemen at all levels of the economy sucking the wealth out everyone.

The world still beats Holocaust bullshit into everyones consciousness but it's all just to cover up that the Jews are the problem and National Socialism is the solution.

 

[Pain And Hatred]

Fuck nazis, I would only support them if they made everyone into giga chad aryans.

 

[Emba]

Fuck nazis, I would only support them if they made everyone into giga chad aryans.

It's not an instant thing bro...

 

[Emba]

.....

Except for the gas chamber crap it's a good post...

What people fail to realize is cooperation builds civilization! They succeeded (for a while) because everyone pitched in.

They failed because the jewish allied forces had numerical superiority. That's the only reason.

Those were the days of wars of attrition.

 

[crew2]

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Except for the gas chamber crap it's a good post...

What people fail to realize is cooperation builds civilization! They succeeded (for a while) because everyone pitched in.

They failed because the jewish allied forces had numerical superiority. That's the only reason.

Those were the days of wars of attrition.

I tell you what joke Jews love - fart loudly in their direction and as soon as they start complaining say "What's wrong? A bit of gas never hurt anybody". They love it. LOVE it

 

[Emba]

I tell you what joke Jews love - fart loudly in their direction and as soon as they start complaining say "What's wrong? A bit of gas never hurt anybody". They love it. LOVE it

I will do that soom

 

[JayGoptri]

I will do that soom

Still working on "The Jewish Problem", I see

 

[Emba]

Still working on "The Jewish Problem", I see

I'm saving up my blood sales money to buy Bean's.

 

[JayGoptri]

I'm saving up my blood sales money to buy Bean's.

Save your blood my friend. I will mail you a ton of beans

Hey btw...you know where there are very few - to - absolutely no Jews?

India !

 

[Kuriboh]

Individualism is real.
The success of every nation is the success of the leader who is an individual who forces his will on the nation.
Hitler's biggest mistake was that he denied individualism but on the other hand he was forcing his own individuality on his nation using it to serve his dreams.
Hitler thought that all Germans would see the world on his way. All Germans were equal as they carry the same Aryan blood. All Germans would success in the same way.
[UWSL]Humans are different because of genetic determinism. Humans live in different worlds even inside the same family.[/UWSL]
The Nazi army had soldiers of different shapes, skills, brains, background status etc
The incels in the Nazi army were easily defeated by American and Russian Chads.

 

[Restart80]

Individualism is real.
The success of every nation is the success of the leader who is an individual who forces his will on the nation.
Hitler's biggest mistake was that he denied individualism but on the other hand he was forcing his own individuality on his nation using it to serve his dreams.
Hitler thought that all Germans would see the world on his way. All Germans were equal as they carry the same Aryan blood. All Germans would success in the same way.
[UWSL]Humans are different because of genetic determinism. Humans live in different worlds even inside the same family.[/UWSL]
The Nazi army had soldiers of different shapes, skills, brains, background status etc
The incels in the Nazi army were easily defeated by American and Russian Chads.

Hitler never denied that Germans weren't all the same, particularly in abilities. Inequality is inherent to nature, and National Socialism fully embraces that fact. Individuals are unequal, but each has their place in the collective regardless.

Communism denies individual rights. National Socialism allows for individual rights (i.e. private property). It's just that, unlike our radically individualistic and Capitalistic societies, National Socialism sufficiently acknowledges the importance of the collective.

The "incels" in the Nazi army were not-so-easily defeated by hordes of Soviet subhumans, in addition to the funding these Soviet subhumans continued receiving from the United States. There was no country on earth that could have taken Germany 1v1. It was a war of attrition and numbers, which did not favor them as one might expect when fighting an international Jewish conspiracy in the first place.

 

[Emba]

Save your blood my friend. I will mail you a ton of beans

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Hey btw...you know where there are very few - to - absolutely no Jews?

India !

Thanks bro! I was jk about blood sales...

I actually have more than a years worth of beans. But those are some pretty beans for sure. Are they drought resistant? Will they grow in clay dirt?

 

[JayGoptri]

Thanks bro! I was jk about blood sales...

I actually have more than a years worth of beans. But those are some pretty beans for sure. Are they drought resistant? Will they grow in clay dirt?

And I was jk about mailing the beans (it's just a photo from google ofc) BUT....
[UWSL]There are beans here in curryland that grow in arid climates and a few varities (my aunt grows) do grow in dirt clay. I am thinking about buying a plot with a pal and growing some, amongst other things.[/UWSL]

Just curious, you growing beans for survival of commercially?

 

[Emba]

And I was jk about mailing the beans (it's just a photo from google ofc) BUT....
[UWSL]There are beans here in curryland that grow in arid climates and a few varities (my aunt grows) do grow in dirt clay. I am thinking about buying a plot with a pal and growing some, amongst other things.[/UWSL]

Just curious, you growing beans for survival of commercially?

Not in many years... Most of my beans fail so I no longer bother planting them... They are a lot of work.

I now only concentrate on perennial stuff. I like invasive, hard to kill, drought resistant stuff. Mostly greens and root crops.

I research it and get some if it seems OK.
If it lives in my yard I'll eat it. (And try to sell/ trade some to my neighborhood)

 

[JayGoptri]

Not in many years... Most of my beans fail so I no longer bother planting them... They are a lot of work.

Same thing happened to me. I didn't have the best "greenthumb". Used to have a nice yard in the States but soon that will be sold off too.

I now only concentrate on perennial stuff. I like invasive, hard to kill, drought resistant stuff. Mostly greens and root crops.

Good approach!

I research it and get some if it seems OK.
If it lives in my yard I'll eat it. (And try to sell/ trade some to my neighborhood)

Reasonable plan. I have a balcony so I could grow some things, like potatoes and bell peppers can grow easily here. I just don't invest to much into it now days cause even if I'm successful at growing a few, my canines would tear it apart when I'm out and about.

 

[Emba]

Same thing happened to me. I didn't have the best "greenthumb". Used to have a nice yard in the States but soon that will be sold off too.

Good approach!

Reasonable plan. I have a balcony so I could grow some things, like potatoes and bell peppers can grow easily here. I just don't invest to much into it now days cause even if I'm successful at growing a few, my canines would tear it apart when I'm out and about.

Yeah. My doges eat my sorghum. And sleep in my garlic beds. (Until I fenced them)

 

[TheProphetMuscle]

If only he had waited until he conquered Britain before invading the USSR and the japs weren’t stupid enough to bomb one of the most powerful militaries in the world

 

[MentalistKebab]

Getting rid of all the Jews allowed Germany to flourish and become one of the strongest countries in the world. That's the little tidbit that the world wants to keep a secret. National Socialism was very successful, and very quickly resulted in immense power and resources. Once all the Jews are eliminated it's like taking the brakes off the economy. You no longer have jew middlemen at all levels of the economy sucking the wealth out everyone.

The world still beats Holocaust bullshit into everyones consciousness but it's all just to cover up that the Jews are the problem and National Socialism is the solution.

Nonsense. Heavy industrialization of independent German States, and they forming the strongest state in Europe happened in 19. Century where they were more tolerant to jews than most other countries.

And it was certainly done better than Nazi Germany, whose economic growth was heavily relied on debt, which they wouldnt be able to pay if the WW2 didnt started.

Now when it comes to OP's question, Nazis lost simply due to Soviets being stronger than them. Their manpower, natural resources and industrial production was simply lower than the enemy they choosed, thus they lost, its as natural as Poland losing against Germany.

 

[JayGoptri]

Yeah. My doges eat my sorghum. And sleep in my garlic beds. (Until I fenced them)

Hehe. Yyyep.

What breeds do you have ?

 

[Emba]

Hehe. Yyyep.

What breeds do you have ?

Random mutts and a mountain cur...

 

[Restart80]

Now when it comes to OP's question, Nazis lost simply due to Soviets being stronger than them. Their manpower, natural resources and industrial production was simply lower than the enemy they choosed, thus they lost, its as natural as Poland losing against Germany.

False. "Lend-lease Act" of the United States provided aid to the failing Communist regime, which couldn't even handle Germany despite its giant land mass and massive numbers of soldiers. In every significant confrontation between Germany and the Soviet Union, the Soviet Union often lost double, triple, even ten times the number of men. The Soviet Union was throwing their men at the "Nazis" like meat to be grinded up, just to slow them down enough.

Even with the tanks, bombs, and other equipment being sent to the Soviet Union from the United States, there was a point at which Hitler and the Allies were expecting the Soviet Union to fall shortly before the Soviet Union managed to turn things around at the last minute... largely because of the weather. And the reason the weather became a factor? Their huge land mass making it take such a long time to reach the capital and end the war on the Eastern front.

If only he had waited until he conquered Britain before invading the USSR and the japs weren’t stupid enough to bomb one of the most powerful militaries in the world

This does make a lot of sense without understanding the context. If the USSR was planning to invade Germany anyway (when it had its back turned, focused on Britain), then the best move was in fact to Blitzkrieg the hell out of the USSR, with a surprise factor. If Hitler could have quickly crushed the biggest and most immediate threat, the Soviet Union, and made use of its resources, then he likely would have been able to stave off further aggression from the West, and the war could have ended in a stalemate. In fact the moment the Allies would have given up, the war would have ended.