Is having bad social skills also a genetic defect?
It is hard to develop social skills when you are treated like an abomination in all of the social interactions you attempt.
the incel community is highly over-represented by aspies.
Not really a defect, I have Asperger's and despite being incel I have vastly superior intelligence. Decent tradeoff given i can just escortcel my way to victory with a 8/10+ when I start making six figures as an engineer
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Social skills take practice. When no one wants to talk to you or spend time with you, they atrophy. At that point, it's impossible to develop good social skills because you aren't able to approach anyone and initiate/maintain interaction with them and no one wants to make an effort to get to know you.
its essentially a social skill deficit
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I believe how your parents treat you when you are a baby and a child has massive consequences on your social skills/ how you interact with people
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Usually it goes like this. You are incel. You are either ugly or socially awkward/retarded or even both. This means you will get bullied or ignored by other people and branded as outcast by your peers. Over the years this badly damages your social skills and makes you even more socially awkward or retarded.
I didn't realise until it was too late that social skills can atrophy as well as improve, you LDAR, you pay the price.
Because we didn't have the skills to adapt to the real world so we found shelter on the internet. It allowed our social anxiety to go away. While it alleviated the pressure to talk in front of people not make a fool of yourself it caused you to miss out on a critical component to develop romantic connections with people. Coupled with poor social skills and below average looks creates the making of an incel.
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its a result of years of loneliness and isolation and negative feedback loop
if every guy lost his virginity in high school to his oneitis and had a cool social circle, Aspergers probably wouldn't even be a thing.
I was the bottom percentile in height and frame growing up and looked extremely harmless. I was bullied since preschool and then by my parents, esp dad, after like 3rd grade.
dad's a delusional aspie manlet and wanted me to grow up to be president or senator, at any cost, so that people would respect him finally for raising such an upstanding citizen.. and so I can compare favorably to my 6'4" married-to-a-virgin millionaire cousin.. dad's a grade A cuck.
Girls were interested in me after 11th grade.. I could've been a slayer in my high school, but it was too late and the damage was done already. and it was all downhill from there. I stopped growing at 5'9" and started norwooding at 17.. I'm 24 now.. I have nothing left.
if every guy lost his virginity in high school to his oneitis and had a cool social circle, Aspergers probably wouldn't even be a thing.
I was the bottom percentile in height and frame growing up and looked extremely harmless. I was bullied since preschool and then by my parents, esp dad, after like 3rd grade.
dad's a delusional aspie manlet and wanted me to grow up to be president or senator, at any cost, so that people would respect him finally for raising such an upstanding citizen.. and so I can compare favorably to my 6'4" married-to-a-virgin millionaire cousin.. dad's a grade A cuck.
Girls were interested in me after 11th grade.. I could've been a slayer in my high school, but it was too late and the damage was done already. and it was all downhill from there. I stopped growing at 5'9" and started norwooding at 17.. I'm 24 now.. I have nothing left.
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They don't. It's just the failo effect of being ugly. Diagnosed autist like eggman and Ice poseidon get laid because they are tall and ice poseidon also has a prominent chin and nice jawline.
yes. a lot of us have mild autism. also a lot of us have bad social skills due to being treated badly for how we look.
This question is very low IQ.
It's because they had less opportunities, and had to start with a big handicap in the interraction they had, hard to have a healthy exchange when someone dislikes you for your face and act agressive, uncaring or disinterrested toward you.
Just look at how girls act with an attractive guy vs an ugly one, and you'll understand how easy it was for the first to develop social skills while impossible for the other.
It's because they had less opportunities, and had to start with a big handicap in the interraction they had, hard to have a healthy exchange when someone dislikes you for your face and act agressive, uncaring or disinterrested toward you.
Just look at how girls act with an attractive guy vs an ugly one, and you'll understand how easy it was for the first to develop social skills while impossible for the other.
Because we never got to practice due to being rejected since very early age.
Partly. But it's even worse when people are shitting on you.
im a social outcast have no friends, most incels seem to be same
This. 100 percent fucking this
Getting treated like shit tends to destroy any desire you have to interact with other people. It never gets any better but you start to accept that you're just a loner.
Basically this along with sub-par parenting
Because autism is a death sentence tbh
Social skills work the same as other skills. You have to do it to get good at it. Incels get ostracized for being akward so it is a downwards spiral. It just needs a simple catalyst such as being ugly, aspie, depressed, or bullied and it will roll down hill by itself.
It's funny because Incels actually have a FAR HIGHER ability to socialize than most chads and normies. LOL MARIANA TRENCH IQ I hear people saying, but here is why -
If people accept you, you feel a certain level of social permission and ease around them and it's like a red carpet being laid out for you. I guess the simplest way to describe is we are on extreme/hard mode, and they are on easy mode. If we were suddenly treated well and had that level of social permission, we would absolutely become totally different people, and our years of having to fight through social interactions would turn into absolutely crushing it. I talked to a Chad who was working today and the guy was an absolute social retard. Could hardly say hi. Most normies are the same. If they had to live in our shoes for a day they would wither up and die IMMEDIATELY (they would not even be able to run home in tears)! My original goal in coming on this site was to prove that social skills do NOT get you laid. I posted the proof in my first thread and found it to be super important for people to know. It has nothing to do with social skills. I thought it did and I worked on mine for years, rigorously. I can easily handle convos with girls and randos, but it does me absolutely no good.
If people accept you, you feel a certain level of social permission and ease around them and it's like a red carpet being laid out for you. I guess the simplest way to describe is we are on extreme/hard mode, and they are on easy mode. If we were suddenly treated well and had that level of social permission, we would absolutely become totally different people, and our years of having to fight through social interactions would turn into absolutely crushing it. I talked to a Chad who was working today and the guy was an absolute social retard. Could hardly say hi. Most normies are the same. If they had to live in our shoes for a day they would wither up and die IMMEDIATELY (they would not even be able to run home in tears)! My original goal in coming on this site was to prove that social skills do NOT get you laid. I posted the proof in my first thread and found it to be super important for people to know. It has nothing to do with social skills. I thought it did and I worked on mine for years, rigorously. I can easily handle convos with girls and randos, but it does me absolutely no good.
You can't build your social skills when you haven't had the chance.
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We develop it due to everyone hating and despising us due to our physical ugliness.
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People only notice “bad social skills” when the person in question is a sub-8 man.
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It's not like society has been very receptive to us throughout our lives in the first place. Hard to develop proper social skills when all you get is put me downs.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_personality_traits#Heritability
But what about social skills?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10789354
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0896627310001376
So it's not entirely in one's genes, but a large part of human social behavior is genetic.
So our genes are to blame for the large part of our personalities, but environment has an effect too.
But what about social skills?
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10789354
And there is this review, which shows that Prosocial Behavior, Empathy, Social Stress, Aggression, are all highly gene-linked.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0896627310001376
So it's not entirely in one's genes, but a large part of human social behavior is genetic.
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