Discussion Why I still have racial allegiance as an Incel

[theundeadburg]

i dont care about race

 

[RopeMaXXer]

This is wrong tbh. You treat incels like a very small group when in reality we are many. Child rapists are very few, it's unnatural, and I can't see how they have any good arguments for their cause. Incels live unnaturally and it's our every right to become non-incel.

There's many men that are effectively incels but are still bluepilled cuckolds, even if half of men were blackpilled they wouldn't organize around that fact, not all of them.
I was talking about branding not saying we're same as childrapists JFL

 

[BlkPillPres]

I don't care to defend your pathologization of my behaviour, your JBW reworded into longer paragraphs and overall minority seething.

JFL the post has nothing to do with JBW, the point of the thread is whites tend to have racial allegiance because of the differences in culture, for example blacks males have to take on a "persona" to be considered a "real black man" among his people, especially his women, if you speak properly you'll be told you are "talking white", if you dress plainly you are told you "have no swag/style", etc. White men don't face that same kind of cultural quirk, by default you have the minimal requirements to be considered a white man among your people merely for being white alone, there is no other criteria, but for a black man (and likely other ethnics) there is criteria to be met, for your own race to accept you, this is why I say whites have yet to face "race level rejection", race level rejection is something common among black incels because we don't subscribe to typical "black culture", so not only are we not even considered "viable men", were not considered "black men" period by our own people (especially our women)

Fact of the matter is I don't like minorities, don't want to be around minorities, am not attracted to minorities and minorities build shitty societies.
That's it.

Fact of the matter is, as an incel, you are basically a minority of your own race, and it doesn't matter what you like, interracial breeding is a biological inevitability, because the entire point of biodiversity, is to have a more varied breeding pool to combine various traits, guys like you who are dreaming of some magical ethnostate are living in some dream land, it will never happen, pretty much all people are going to be mixed at some point, that's how you create a balanced "super race", not by each side basically HOARDING the traits that makes them great

Also your race is playing with a handicap, whenever an ethnic man breeds with a white women, or a white man breeds with an ethnic woman, their offspring is considered ethnic, so you can only breed within yourselves to further your goal, whilst ethnics can breed with pretty much anybody they want to further theirs, so you have to face facts, its simple math, you can't win

 

[RopeMaXXer]

JFL the post has nothing to do with JBW, the point of the thread is whites tend to have racial allegiance because of the differences in culture, for example blacks males have to take on a "persona" to be considered a "real black man" among his people, especially his women, if you speak properly you'll be told you are "talking white", if you dress plainly you are told you "have no swag/style", etc. White men don't face that same kind of cultural quirk, by default you have the minimal requirements to be considered a white man among your people merely for being white alone, there is no other criteria, but for a black man (and likely other ethnics) there is criteria to be met, for your own race to accept you, this is why I say whites have yet to face "race level rejection", race level rejection is something common among black incels because we don't subscribe to typical "black culture", so not only are we not even considered "viable men", were not considered "black men" period by our own people (especially our women)

Whites have the least amount of racial allegiance out of anyone. If whites had even moderate amount of racial allegiance it would make Trump blush. Whites create cringy subcultures and fads and identify with their football teams, blacks just are and don't do faggy shit like that. I don't care about your hoodrat stigma about acting white and black shove it up your ass.

Fact of the matter is, as an incel, you are basically a minority of your own race, and it doesn't matter what you like,

Id rather be an incel in white country than turd world country. I won't stop being ugly, the dice was cast long ago, you think this is an argument but it is as much of an argument for as it is against.

interracial breeding is a biological inevitability, because the entire point of biodiversity, is to have a more varied breeding pool to combine various traits,

It isn't. You're assuming biodiversity is desirable and you're assuming whites aren't bio diverse enough. They are and there's no inbreeding depression. You talk like some black that wants to shag white women and this is what you come up with as post rationalization.

pretty much all people are going to be mixed at some point, that's how you create a balanced "super race", not by each side basically HOARDING the traits that makes them great

This isn't happening to anyone but white countries. Super race? lmfao You mean 85IQ choco simpletons with birth defects and no bone marrow transplant donors? You mean neurotic hapas with schizophrenia and none of the benefits of both races? You're spouting jewish propaganda but you like it because it means fucking white women. Spare me.

Also your race is playing with a handicap, whenever an ethnic man breeds with a white women, or a white man breeds with an ethnic woman, their offspring is considered ethnic, so you can only breed within yourselves to further your goal, whilst ethnics can breed with pretty much anybody they want to further theirs, so you have to face facts, its simple math, you can't win

Why are you turning this thread into racewar? I don't care to discuss this here. I'd much rather do it on a platform where I can call you a nigger and insult you as much as I want.

 

[Teutonic Knight]

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Here.
Notice how the only overlap is Georgians, Armenians and Jews.
Notice where arabs are. Notice where turks are. Notice the Occasional crusader rapebaby in Lebanese and Syrians.
Everything you'd expect to see.

Where does this show that there is some sort of clearly define white race? Nowhere.

White race comes down to phenotype and everyone who promotes this idea defines it this way. How many white people know what their genes are? Yet they consider themselves white and consider other whites based on their phenotype and cultural-religious ancestry. People bringing up genetics are trying to twist some genetic studies into supposedly proving what they wanted to prove beforehand.

It's a social construct invented in the 19th century liberal West.

You're just pushing Western liberal agenda like the good self-identified white cuck as you are.

Enjoy having racial allegiance to your degenerate white elites who put you in your incel position. Self-declared white people are the biggest slaves of this system.

 

[TheSecondComing]

It is natural to want foid of own breed, and to want of other is bit of borderline zoophilia. But I better borderline zoo with cute adorable loli of other breed, than ugly femorloid of my

 

[RopeMaXXer]

Where does this show that there is some sort of clearly define white race? Nowhere.

Do you know what clustering means? Do you even read what I post?
I'll ignore you from now on. You're actually retarded

Where you draw the line and how broadly you understand the definition of race to be is a social construct. Genetic distance isn't.
I argued with retards like you 5 years ago. Deconstructing well understood concepts makes you look smart to 110IQ walking Dunning Krueger cases but you're not saying anything new or novel.

 

[Avacato]

Having racial allegiance is a normal part of being human. It make sense to be with people of your culture and people who look like you. It's also normal to have pride in your race and culture (hence the allegiance). For eg.: Black people celebrating their race, and unapologetically calling it Black Culture.

Haha unfortunately white people lost out on the ability to have racial allegiance and celebrate 'white culture' due to certain happenings in Germany. Also due to that culture having subjugated a good part of the whole planet, and profitted from it, the profits of which are still enjoyed after a hundred years (it's the simple explanation to why Western countries have so much wealth compared to shithole African countries, India, Latin America). Due to Germany, colonization, apartheid, the extreme wealth gap, and things like that, celebrating white culture, harks back to celebration of subjugation, racial division, gas chambers, and having to acknowledge the reasons for the wealth gap between Western and African and Eastern nations, and continued wealth gap between white people and black people in the us.

Haha and thats the raw deal that white people got unfortunately. You get the benefits of living in wealthier countries, and to enjoy a better standard of living, but unfortunately having pride in white culture has become a bad thing. And to some of youll that's the real crime and it's very unfair.

 

[Teutonic Knight]

Whites have the least amount of racial allegiance out of anyone. If whites had even moderate amount of racial allegiance it would make Trump blush. Whites create cringy subcultures and fads and identify with their football teams, blacks just are and don't do faggy shit like that. I don't care about your hoodrat stigma about acting white and black shove it up your ass.

LOL. Whites have by far the most racial allegiance. The idea of racial allegiance to the white race = being a cuck, supporting LGBT, being responsible, being servile to the law to institutions, to the elite etc. These self-declared white people have internalized this as their racial identity. They all have this consciousness. Why do you think this white race has so many common patterns of behavior and they're all degenerate? Why are there almost only white people on these save the planet type of protests? Why are the extreme liberals almost always white? Because of their allegiance to white race.

The idea of being white is being a cuck, there is nothing more to it. It's the integral part of what is attributed to white culture and behavior. White people are expected to be subservient to the elites and to respect the cult of the state and so on.

Whenever someone like me refuses to identify himself as white, white people from all political views attack me. I get even more hate from liberals for REFUSING to identify with this ideology grouping "white race" than from racists. Liberals want you to declare yourself as white so that you accept their cult of white guilt and of having to be responsible good little hard working citizen.

If that is not some sort of extreme racial allegiance, I don't know what is.

 

[Darth Cialis]

As far as I can see the ones who tell you that you should put aside your white racial allegiance in favour of other incels are usually ethnics who want to take over your country, racemix with white foids and even shit on white incels the first chance they get.

 

[Deleted member 11032]

It is natural to want foid of own breed, and to want of other is bit of borderline zoophilia.

kek I've missed you.

 

[Honeypot]

This post is meant to spur discussion on racial loyality incel loyality dichotomy, please don't racebait here.

I often see this sentiment touted throughout here and seems to be more popular than people of the opposite opinion so I thought I would weigh in. I have racial allegiance towards my people, and by my people I mean certain ethnic group within white people. I have mild allegiance towards whites as whole.
Reason is very simple. Only thing I have in common with a brown incel is that we can't get laid and we agree on behaviour of women. We don't even agree on all of "incel ideology". He most likely thinks JBW is legit.
I have much more in common with an average person of my ethnicity than a brown incel. They might be normie blue pilled cuckolds, but I am capable of associating with people that don't agree with me.

On civilizational level, I'd rather be an incel in white country than an incel in multi kulti shithole, or even worse, turd world country. It is that simple. Argument I hear the most is that my race doesn't care about me because I am undesirable. This is true but this applies everywhere. Being undesriable means being undesirable everywhere, not just to one specific race. This does not speak in favour of incels as coherent group either.

That's mostly the problem too, incels aren't a group and never will be a coherent group with any power. We are by definition undesirable and unpopular by extension. You cannot unite under this banner even if you wanted. It's like trying to make child rapist group (this is how normies unironically see us).
There is no brotherhood in any sense, we just have the same problems.

Fuark bro, strong opinions tbh.


I'm the inverse I have allegiance towards incels and males overall much more than of my race which I don't share nothing of value, you are coping.

>but this ethnic told me volcel
>but muh jbw

JBW is venting, same thing for tallcels or manlets with average faces like knajjd they get shit on as a coping mechanism.

Tbh jbw should get the same treat as meme as BBC does or be a banneable offense like racebaiting is.

You should take it for what it is: trashtalk.

As far as I can see the ones who tell you that you should put aside your white racial allegiance in favour of other incels are usually ethnics who want to take over your country, racemix with white foids and even shit on white incels the first chance they get.

Yeah I definitely want that

I want a country where I can buy foids as objects that is not obligatory to believe in Allah.

I give a shit about white countries and their impossibility of change I rather make a floating country in international waters.

 

[Avacato]

Off-topic, but since this race bs keeps coming up, People who boil down what someone is saying to accuse em of just making a simple JBW arguement, sound just like normies or cucks when they deny when an incel speaks the truth. "Buhh it's not about only being white bro, you can be white and incel" sounds just like "Buhh it's not only about good looks bro, you can be a normie and it can still be hard for us too". Understand the nuance and don't make it a simplistic arguement.

 

[PPEcel]

On civilizational level, I'd rather be an incel in white country than an incel in multi kulti shithole, or even worse, turd world country. It is that simple. Argument I hear the most is that my race doesn't care about me because I am undesirable. This is true but this applies everywhere. Being undesriable means being undesirable everywhere, not just to one specific race. This does not speak in favour of incels as coherent group either.

There is no brotherhood in any sense, we just have the same problems.

"Racial allegiance" is a pretty dumb concept. What you really want is closer to "socio-economic allegiance" or "linguistic allegiance".

You are more likely to connect with someone with similar hobbies, with similar educational attainment, with a similar language. You believe that you have "racial allegiance", but that's only because you are more likely to socioeconomically and linguistically connect with someone from your own race. Statistically speaking, race is merely a confounding variable. You aren't friends with someone based purely on his or her genetics; you're friends with someone because their environment has molded them into someone you found interesting.

A U.S.-born, English-speaking ricecel who attended Andover and Yale is more likely to connect with an average, college-educated white American than he is with an illiterate peasant in rural China. The rich ricecel might be genetically very, very similar to the peasant, but they might well be from different universes: one earns $3 a day, and one spends $300 on a tasting menu at Eleven Madison Park. When I visited a couple of distant relatives in China, I felt like a foreigner. Globalization and air travel have made "racial allegiance" decreasingly important.

It's true that white-majority countries are by and large more developed. But I'd rather be born in Singapore, Japan, or Qatar than in a former Eastern Bloc country.

 

[BOB]

>Only thing I have in common with a brown incel is that we can't get laid and we agree on behaviour of women
and this is all what this site is about nothing more then that.

 

[BlkPillPres]

You talk like some black that wants to shag white women and this is what you come up with as post rationalization.

You're spouting jewish propaganda but you like it because it means fucking white women. Spare me.

JFL your bias is showing, like Alfen said:

Stop thinking all ethnics are there to ''steal your women''.
In any case, youre Incel so you wont get any women any way.

I actually like asian women retard, white women are alright but they definitely aren't the "best package", white women are in their prime when they are jail bait, when they reach their mid 20's that's it, your women age like shit, don't know if you are aware, from 30+ and even mid to late 20's its over for them, the status white women have comes from the accomplishments their men have made in history not from their looks, asian women mog white women to hell and back, they have more feminine proportions, they look younger, they age slower, their voices are more feminine, they have less testosterone on average than all the races of women by default, etc.

You seem to have this cope that all ethnics are "after your women" and if you can just prevent that you will HAVE A CHANCE

Why are you turning this thread into racewar?

lmfao You mean 85IQ choco simpletons

I'd much rather do it on a platform where I can call you a nigger and insult you as much as I want.

The irony of a racist who has said stuff like this telling someone else they are trying to start a race war . If this is how you think of ethnics then no war needed to be "started", it was already in progress retard

I don't care to discuss this here. I'd much rather do it on a platform where I can call you a nigger and insult you as much as I want.

Insults won't change the undeniable fact of the handicap racist whites have imposed on themselves, instead of seeing any ethnic women bred as producing "your child", white men see it as an "ethnic child", they handicapped themselves, they made themselves "white people" and everything else as "other people"

SO FROM THE VERY START YOU NEVER HAD A CHANCE AT WINNING ANY WAR BY VIRTUE OF THAT RULE SET

Its inevitable whites will be bred out of existence, in fact all races will be, but whites are really the only ones who care about that so you see it as some kind of "impending doom" JFL, good luck preventing the inevitable

 

[Deleted member 16455]

JFL race threads always end up being 2+ pages

 

[RopeMaXXer]

JFL your bias is showing, like Alfen said:
I actually like asian women retard, white women are alright but they definitely aren't the "best package", white women are in their prime when they are jail bait, when they reach their mid 20's that's it, your women age like shit, don't know if you are aware, from 30+ and even mid to late 20's its over for them, the status white women have comes from the accomplishments their men have made in history not from their looks, asian women mog white women to hell and back, they have more feminine proportions, they look younger, they age slower, their voices are more feminine, they have less testosterone on average than all the races of women by default, etc.

You seem to have this cope that all ethnics are "after your women" and if you can just prevent that you will HAVE A CHANCE

You gave me two paragraph long justification on why everyone must mix without any good reason but mainstream talking points.
I gave you the benefit of the doubt. Now I am certain you're just plain dumb.

The irony of a racist who has said stuff like this telling someone else they are trying to start a race war . If this is how you think of ethnics then no war needed to be "started", it was already in progress retard

GIVE UP WHITE BOY MATHEMATICS AND SHIEET YOU WON'T WIN. WOAH RACE WAR WHAT?
Also everything I said about mixing is true.

Insults won't change the undeniable fact of the handicap racist whites have imposed on themselves, instead of seeing any ethnic women bred as producing "your child", white men see it as an "ethnic child", they handicapped themselves, they made themselves "white people" and everything else as "other people"

I don't care to discuss benefits of purity vs benefits of numbers game.

Its inevitable whites will be bred out of existence, in fact all races will be, but whites are really the only ones who care about that so you see it as some kind of "impending doom" JFL, good luck preventing the inevitable

Here we go again. It's only happening in white countries. You saying "you will be bred out of existence" is essentialy fighting words. Just go away this thread is not even about this.

A U.S.-born, English-speaking ricecel who attended Andover and Yale is more likely to connect with an average, college-educated white American than he is with an illiterate peasant in rural China. The rich ricecel might be genetically very, very similar to the peasant, but they might well be from different universes: one earns $3 a day, and one spends $300 on a tasting menu at Eleven Madison Park. When I visited a couple of distant relatives in China, I felt like a foreigner. Globalization and air travel have made "racial allegiance" decreasingly important.

It's true that white-majority countries are by and large more developed. But I'd rather be born in Singapore, Japan, or Qatar than in a former Eastern Bloc country.

Here we go again. Race is a valid concept to unite around. You speaking to your college buddies that happen to be different race means nothing. When it comes to actually living around someone everyone is segregated like it's 50s america.

 

[BlkPillPres]

You saying "you will be bred out of existence" is essentialy fighting words. Just go away this thread is not even about this.

Its only fighting words because you are coping, you aren't even a part of the game, you are an incel, you are seriously coping, its always humourous when an incel put so much thought into normie problems, "preserving your race" is a normie problem, not an incel problem, the fact that you are speaking like this is in idicator of how blue pilled you are and you likely still think of yourself as "one of them", you aren't, you don't even count, get that through your thick skull

 

[RopeMaXXer]

Its only fighting words because you are coping, you aren't even a part of the game, you are an incel, you are seriously coping, its always humourous when an incel put so much thought into normie problems, "preserving your race" is a normie problem, not an incel problem, the fact that you are speaking like this is in idicator of how blue pilled you are and you likely still think of yourself as "one of them", you aren't, you don't even count, get that through your thick skull

I care about who I live around. I don't have to be part of reproductive game to care about this.
I said this in OP
fuck off now

 

[Cuyen]

love race threads, everyone lose their shit