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Venting Why height pill is the most brutal pill out of face, height and ethinicity

Chuddy McChud

Chuddy McChud

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One of the things I wish was talked about more with the height pill is the effects OUTSIDE of dating. I personally can handle being ugly, when your ugly but average-tall in height you can still depend on yourself to be able to defend yourself from the world (bully's, physical conflict etc) so, even though you are not accepted in the world due to your looks, you can still create a strong, masculine personal identity by living as a loner and Machiavellian and living a life against the grain. Those ugly but tall (or even just average men), still can feel like a man by carved out his place out in the world, whereas for a turbo-manlet (5'7'' below, say) you can do no such thing, even if you gymmaxx normies still wont see you as a threat (which is the only other way to garner respect if being high smv isn't an option). so your forced into this pathetic state where you are hated by people but any attempt to stand up for yourself is seen, at best, as a "little man complex" and your only tolerated by normies, but at worst, you, the meek, angry, little man, will get beaten up by normies for having the GALL of standing up for yourself.

I don't know how any one can be this height and feel comfortable in their masculinity, its humiliating, and that's what makes it the most brutal pill, you shunned by society and you cant stand up for yourself and maintain any kind of masculine pride without it either, being hollow, or met with overwhelming aggression.

And before one of you go telling me I'm a cuck for letting social constructs like a "masculine identity" valuate my own worth, let me remind you, that these "social constructs" are just an EXTENTION of our biology, the reason all society have similar ideas of what makes a man, is because it is something biologically programmed into us for survival purposes, thus, making it completely unavoidable.
 
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NTpill is way worse overall.
 
yeah probably tbh, i was meaning more in the realm of attractiveness tho like face, height and ethnicity.
Heightpill= most devastating mogging
NTpill= most fucked life (depending on how bad ur autism or mental illness is u might not even be able to hold a job at McDonald's let alone get past the interview)
 
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One of the things I wish was talked about more with the height pill is the effects OUTSIDE of dating. I personally can handle being ugly, when your ugly but average-tall in height you can still depend on yourself to be able to defend yourself from the world (bully's, physical conflict etc) so, even though you are not accepted in the world due to your looks, you can still create a strong, masculine personal identity by living as a loner and Machiavellian and living a life against the grain. Those ugly but tall (or even just average men), still can feel like a man by carved out his place out in the world, whereas for a turbo-manlet (5'7'' below, say) you can do no such thing, even if you gymmaxx normies still wont see you as a threat (which is the only other way to garner respect if being high smv isn't an option). so your forced into this pathetic state where you are hated by people but any attempt to stand up for yourself is seen, at best, as a "little man complex" and your only tolerated by normies, but at worst, you, the meek, angry, little man, will get beaten up by normies for having the GALL of standing up for yourself.

I don't know how any one can be this height and feel comfortable in their masculinity, its humiliating, and that's what makes it the most brutal pill, you shunned by society and you cant stand up for yourself and maintain any kind of masculine pride without it either, being hollow, or met with overwhelming aggression.

And before one of you go telling me I'm a cuck for letting social constructs like a "masculine identity" valuate my own worth, let me remind you, that these "social constructs" are just an EXTENTION of our biology, the reason all society have similar ideas of what makes a man, is because it is something biologically programmed into us for survival purposes, thus, making it completely unavoidable.
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I agree height is a core part of being a man and the heightpill is brutal. Women need tall men, if you're shorter or even the same height as them, women will never take you seriously as man.

But I would still argue the facepill is the most brutal pill. The face is our gate to humanity. Before you are a man, you are a human. If you have an ugly face, you will not be treated like a human. You will be viewed as an ugly meat pile. It will affect all aspects of your life.
 
I agree height is a core part of being a man and the heightpill is brutal. Women need tall men, if you're shorter or even the same height as them, women will never take you seriously as man.

But I would still argue the facepill is the most brutal pill. The face is our gate to humanity. Before you are a man, you are a human. If you have an ugly face, you will not be treated like a human. You will be viewed as an ugly meat pile. It will affect all aspects of your life.
good point both are certainly brutal, tho i still stand by my point. your seen as a subhuman regardless (so long as your sub5) but at least if your average height and facially ugly you can intimidate normies out of walking all over you. though of course i might be a bit bias since im a manlet myself lol :feelsLightsaber:
 
good point both are certainly brutal, tho i still stand by my point. your seen as a subhuman regardless (so long as your sub5) but at least if your average height and facially ugly you can intimidate normies out of walking all over you. though of course i might be a bit bias since im a manlet myself lol :feelsLightsaber:
WOMEN CAN'T LOVE UGLY MEN :cryfeels: :cryfeels:

I WANT TO BE LOVED BY WOMAN, I WANT AFFECTION :cryfeels::cryfeels:
 
yeah being a manlet really sucks. other men will just never respect u and society will always see u as a jester. This is my life.

Being ugly obviously sucks but being tall means u can get jacked and ogremaxx and be scary. Other people will respect u even if they think u r ugly. Infact ur ugliness will enhance ur scary looking image.

heightpill imo is the most brutal one for this reason.
 
I think it comes down to fact there really isn't anything you can do about height makes it the most brutal
 
yeah being a manlet really sucks. other men will just never respect u and society will always see u as a jester. This is my life.

Being ugly obviously sucks but being tall means u can get jacked and ogremaxx and be scary. Other people will respect u even if they think u r ugly. Infact ur ugliness will enhance ur scary looking image.

heightpill imo is the most brutal one for this reason.
Can't get jacked and ogremaxx as a tall framecel
 
Can't get jacked and ogremaxx as a tall framecel
if your a crazy outlier in shoulder : waist ratio, yeah its probably over for you, time to baggie hoodiemaxx lol. for most framlets though, they're going to be a little below average, nothing too crazy. if they gymmaxx hard for like 2 years and really focus on side delts and lats they can probably fraud their way into looking big.
 
if your a crazy outlier in shoulder : waist ratio, yeah its probably over for you, time to baggie hoodiemaxx lol. for most framlets though, they're going to be a little below average, nothing too crazy. if they gymmaxx hard for like 2 years and really focus on side delts and lats they can probably fraud their way into looking big.
What % of guys 180+ do you think are too framecel to look big
 
What % of guys 180+ do you think are too framecel to look big
i couldn't put a accurate number to it but if you forced me to guess, id say maybe >1/50 or about 2 percent maybe? It would depend on where you took a sample as different ethnicity's are built different and the height of the person makes a big difference ofc. but yeah something like that probably. I guess thats not a "crazy" outlier but still youd be very unlucky to be born that frameceled.
 
If I am ugly but tall, I can improve my face through plastic surgery or cover it up with a mask and a hat. People will still respect me because I look powerful to fight back. But if I am short, it is almost impossible to hide or change. This is fixed and unchanging. People will only think that I am small and easy to bully, and it is impossible for me to have the strength to resist.
 
i couldn't put a accurate number to it but if you forced me to guess, id say maybe >1/50 or about 2 percent maybe? It would depend on where you took a sample as different ethnicity's are built different and the height of the person makes a big difference ofc. but yeah something like that probably. I guess thats not a "crazy" outlier but still youd be very unlucky to be born that frameceled.
Google what biachromial is, I'm curious what you would think

Give me a number on the cutoff point in terms of biachromial for ogremaxxing
 
If I am ugly but tall, I can improve my face through plastic surgery or cover it up with a mask and a hat. People will still respect me because I look powerful to fight back. But if I am short, it is almost impossible to hide or change. This is fixed and unchanging. People will only think that I am small and easy to bully, and it is impossible for me to have the strength to resist.
Otherway around bro, just get LL unironically. I'm getting it next year.
Face is WAY harder to change
 
I think it comes down to fact there really isn't anything you can do about height makes it the most brutal
True, at least face can be partially fixed through plastic surgery whereas with height, at best you'll do LL (which means your body will end up looking disproportionate/gain immense pain during the process and permanent immobility on your legs like in some cases) or use lifts, which stop being effective as soon as you take off your shoes.

It's literally nature electric boogaloo 2.0, where the tallest, biggest individual ends up as the alpha male and gets all the females.
 
I agree height is a core part of being a man and the heightpill is brutal. Women need tall men, if you're shorter or even the same height as them, women will never take you seriously as man.

But I would still argue the facepill is the most brutal pill. The face is our gate to humanity. Before you are a man, you are a human. If you have an ugly face, you will not be treated like a human. You will be viewed as an ugly meat pile. It will affect all aspects of your life.
They will take you seriousely once you make em feel the pain.

So, I say, make them submit. Force them. Mpst of these foids haven't felt the strength of a man in a long time.

In other words, grape. Grape is natural. Outlawing it is stupid.

There was a time when men of neighbouring tribes would kidnap women from other each other toarry them.
Obviousely the sex was not consensual.
 
Race determines face and height, so racepill obviously
 
I'll bash ur head in and we'll see if ur still competent enough to come up with a response let alone get girls wet.
 
I'll bash ur head in and we'll see if ur still competent enough to come up with a response let alone get girls wet.
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Also im not NT, i have schizophrenia
 
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Also im not NT, i have schizophrenia
that thread was braindead AF. he essentially equated being quirky with being mentally ill or autistic and assumed they could all mask their symptoms with minimal effort.
 
that thread was braindead AF. he essentially equated being quirky with being mentally ill or autistic and assumed they could all mask their symptoms with minimal effort.
Foids are attracted to looks, not behavior.
AutistChads get more girls than NTcels.
The highest postcount here (@Animecel2D) is NT iirc
 
Foids are attracted to looks, not behavior.
AutistChads get more girls than NTcels.
The highest postcount here (@Animecel2D) is NT iirc
gotcha.
 
Foids are attracted to looks, not behavior.
AutistChads get more girls than NTcels.
The highest postcount here (@Animecel2D) is NT iirc
to be a ntcel is to suffer, knowing that the mains reasons why my life is so terrible is because of my hideous face and short stature
 
One of the things I wish was talked about more with the height pill is the effects OUTSIDE of dating. I personally can handle being ugly, when your ugly but average-tall in height you can still depend on yourself to be able to defend yourself from the world (bully's, physical conflict etc) so, even though you are not accepted in the world due to your looks, you can still create a strong, masculine personal identity by living as a loner and Machiavellian and living a life against the grain. Those ugly but tall (or even just average men), still can feel like a man by carved out his place out in the world, whereas for a turbo-manlet (5'7'' below, say) you can do no such thing, even if you gymmaxx normies still wont see you as a threat (which is the only other way to garner respect if being high smv isn't an option). so your forced into this pathetic state where you are hated by people but any attempt to stand up for yourself is seen, at best, as a "little man complex" and your only tolerated by normies, but at worst, you, the meek, angry, little man, will get beaten up by normies for having the GALL of standing up for yourself.

I don't know how any one can be this height and feel comfortable in their masculinity, its humiliating, and that's what makes it the most brutal pill, you shunned by society and you cant stand up for yourself and maintain any kind of masculine pride without it either, being hollow, or met with overwhelming aggression.

And before one of you go telling me I'm a cuck for letting social constructs like a "masculine identity" valuate my own worth, let me remind you, that these "social constructs" are just an EXTENTION of our biology, the reason all society have similar ideas of what makes a man, is because it is something biologically programmed into us for survival purposes, thus, making it completely unavoidable.
I'm 5'5, slightly muscular, and I walk around stomach in chest out. My head is shaved too.

I've been directly asked if I was a combat veteran or a violent criminal who did time in prison.

Intimidationmaxxing can work at my height lol
 
Heightpill is quite brutal, though I would argue NTpill is just slightly worse for various reasons- even though non-NT traits & short height often correlate strongly.

Height, when tall ofc, at least can allow for men to display a degree of dominance within a room & also can ward some off. You may be incel for sure, but it at least can help you out socially.
Heightpill= most devastating mogging
NTpill= most fucked life (depending on how bad ur autism or mental illness is u might not even be able to hold a job at McDonald's let alone get past the interview)
Both are massive net-negatives from a social standpoint, and i explained why for height above since it means many won't even take you serious on first glance, but i'd say NTpill is what really can fuck you over.

As you said, depending on how bad it is, you could be literally unemployable for life
 
As you said, depending on how bad it is, you could be literally unemployable for life
if ur lucky u get NEETbux. where I live, near impossible.
 
Heightpill is quite brutal, though I would argue NTpill is just slightly worse for various reasons- even though non-NT traits & short height often correlate strongly.

Height, when tall ofc, at least can allow for men to display a degree of dominance within a room & also can ward some off. You may be incel for sure, but it at least can help you out socially.

Both are massive net-negatives from a social standpoint, and i explained why for height above since it means many won't even take you serious on first glance, but i'd say NTpill is what really can fuck you over.

As you said, depending on how bad it is, you could be literally unemployable for life
pretty much my view on it too, i wasn't considering nt when making the thread because i was thinking in terms of height, race, face but yeah, nt pill is devastating you can be predetermined to be a schizophrenic or something and just have your life fucked from day one.
 
pretty much my view on it too, i wasn't considering nt when making the thread because i was thinking in terms of height, race, face but yeah, nt pill is devastating you can be predetermined to be a schizophrenic or something and just have your life fucked from day one.
As I said they also do tie in quite a bit:

 
As I said they also do tie in quite a bit:

brutal stuff :feelsbadman:
 

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