Why Europe could be in wars for a very long time to come

[WizardofSoda]

In a 1984 like society the men who control the state, they use the forces of the state like the police and ultimately the army to stop people from producing, and to take away the money of people. The stolen money aka confiscatory taxes goes first to the high officials in the state. They sure don't feel the poverty.

But as the people get increasingly desperate they come to understand that it is a world of force. The men who control the men with guns are living in mansions, and the men at arms are living in upper middle class areas with enough electricity and food to eat.

So what do people do.. ordinarily they would work harder to produce more. But that isn't allowed in Europe the men with guns prevent production with the law and regulations for their 1984 classist society. People quickly figure out that in a world of force to survive and prosper you have to get guns too, and you have to organize with as many others as possible who also have guns. And you have to liberally use those guns to kill people, then you get negotiating position against the other men with guns.

This is why Europe was at perma war after Rome fell and Europe devolved into feudalism. You want to either become the Lords or at least be men at arms working for the Lords. You see Lords must pay men at arms more than all the other Lords, or the men at arms switch sides.


In this world all men want to learn the martial arts of war and policing. So you get this highly trained, armed populace who is fighting it out all the time. Its like Game of Thrones.

 

[Jotogo]

Yes, I always tell this to people. We aren't gonna have an post-apocalyptic world, some premise like a combination of 1984 and Brave New World will occur and be ongoing for a couple centuries if not more.

 

[WizardofSoda]

Yes, I always tell this to people. We aren't gonna have an post-apocalyptic world, some premise like a combination of 1984 and Brave New World will occur and be ongoing for a couple centuries if not more.

When I read the EU WEF aristocrats ideas, they think that as the people are impoverished. And the people become cold and hungry, that the people will just meekly go along with it.

But history shows that doesn't happen. In addition to civil and foreign wars you get assassinations, kidnapping, terror attacks, armed robbery, etc.

And in a world of force the Lords themselves who control armed men they jockey for position with each other. They switch allegiances, betrayals, etc.

 

[WizardofSoda]

Yes, I always tell this to people. We aren't gonna have an post-apocalyptic world, some premise like a combination of 1984 and Brave New World will occur and be ongoing for a couple centuries if not more.

It can go on for a long time, like in Europe the dark ages and feudal period was like 1,000 years. And it only came to an end in some areas of Europe because in WWII the Americans and Soviets took over their respective parts of Europe in an insanely bloody war then imposed their new orders.

 

[WizardofSoda]

To simplify it in a world of liberty like America what do you want to get enough food, electricity, housing, water, etc.. and to 'get ahead'. You want some sort of valuable skill that other people will pay for you to do things or make things for them. And you work as much as you want more money.

In a world of force where the state forces don't let you produce, and money is taken away from people by the state and given to the state officials.. in that world you want to learn how to use guns, explosives, military training, etc. Then you can either work at good pay for the state or if not then its opponents.

 

[Jotogo]

When I read the EU WEF aristocrats ideas, they think that as the people are impoverished. And the people become cold and hungry, that the people will just meekly go along with it.

But history shows that doesn't happen. In addition to civil and foreign wars you get assassinations, kidnapping, terror attacks, armed robbery, etc.

And in a world of force the Lords themselves who control armed men they jockey for position with each other. They switch allegiances, betrayals, etc.

Most european peoples have fully gave up themselves for security instead of preserving their freedom in their minds, They're mentally too caught up and docile with Globohomo. I highly doubt they're gonna revolt against WEF systematic hegemony anytime soon. With their populations being estrogenized, heavily affected by refugees with waves of cultural changes and instability yet still careless and in addition self-hating their cultures (See the French and how they love North Africans like Americans love Blacks) and some plan to homogenize political thought into WEF or some other Globohomo organization's thought so they can start an Oceania-like unified state in Europe. Bringing America and Canada with it could be difficult but feasible if the consecutive Democrat leaders hold some agreements with them.
Rebellions that happen will be crushed easily with technological advancements, they could send off killer drones and mind control links to brains to make them stop feeling contrary to and mad against the status quo. Entire regions and it's leader would have to disagree just to pull off a rebellion that could at least succeed for a few days before getting utterly crushed too. It will not be possible to restrain yourself from a future dystopia. Future generations would be living like this for hundreds of years, maybe even thousands.

 

[WizardofSoda]

Most european peoples have fully gave up themselves for security instead of preserving their freedom in their minds, They're mentally too caught up and docile with Globohomo. I highly doubt they're gonna revolt against WEF systematic hegemony anytime soon. With their populations being estrogenized, heavily affected by refugees with waves of cultural changes and instability yet still careless and in addition self-hating their cultures (See the French and how they love North Africans like Americans love Blacks) and some plan to homogenize political thought into WEF or some other Globohomo organization's thought so they can start an Oceania-like unified state in Europe. Bringing America and Canada with it could be difficult but feasible if the consecutive Democrat leaders hold some agreements with them.
Rebellions that happen will be crushed easily with technological advancements, they could send off killer drones and mind control links to brains to make them stop feeling contrary to and mad against the status quo. Entire regions and it's leader would have to disagree just to pull off a rebellion that could at least succeed for a few days before getting utterly crushed too. It will not be possible to restrain yourself from a future dystopia. Future generations would be living like this for hundreds of years, maybe even thousands.

Very good points..

Thing with the docile people is so far since Europe started this move in the 1990's being so wealthy.. the people so far aren't hungry and cold. As long as the people have beer, enough food, housing, heating, television they stay docile because why wouldn't they.

Thing for leaders is there will be ambitious men who in America they would become businessmen and work on getting rich. But if that isn't allowed then they have to turn to organizing men with guns to take wealth and power by force.

In the Soviet Union they were wise to provide the basics to everybody which kept the people docile, so ambitious men couldn't organize many others. But even with that the violence in the Soviet Union was within the state as factions battled for power.

When the Soviet Union got to the point it couldn't make payroll for the tens of millions of government managers it collapsed. Then the regions split off, and now the wars in those regions.

So as long s the Euro countries can make payroll for their tens of millions of government employees with generous pay and benefits, and as long as the people have the basics they can hold it together with the ways you said.

 

[NoLooksNoLife]

I c

 

[Dokes]

Jews get richer . Somebody restart the Third Reich please.

 

[CroatianManlet]

Good then that means niggers will stop coming here

 

[WizardofSoda]

In a world of shortages men organize with each other on religious or ethnic or regional lines. Then when the central government doesn't allocate enough housing, food, energy to their area, the people will riot on a hair trigger. The central government then placates them with what they ask for. And people in other regions see that and start organizing the same way.

It builds up this way, like it usually doesn't start with all out war. But divisions, and increasing cohesiveness of groups, rioting, political violence like assassinations, terror attacks, civil war.. then wars involving other nations.

 

[WizardofSoda]

Men who rise up in this world of force and become leaders of whole nations. Are they going to be satisfied with ruling over the people of their nation, and beating those people down and impoverishing them. No they want to expand their power, that motivation is how they rose up in the first place. So they are eyeing neighboring regions of other countries.

Then are foreign powers going to sit back and 'mind their own business'. No, that is how the USA got into Europe in the first place. Is Europeans fighting each other and America got behind the side that was weaker and asking for help.

 

[Khanivore]

@Waco thats the spirit i got, yep

But with lil addition, you already know it

 

[bigblackman39]

In a 1984 like society the men who control the state, they use the forces of the state like the police and ultimately the army to stop people from producing, and to take away the money of people. The stolen money aka confiscatory taxes goes first to the high officials in the state. They sure don't feel the poverty.

But as the people get increasingly desperate they come to understand that it is a world of force. The men who control the men with guns are living in mansions, and the men at arms are living in upper middle class areas with enough electricity and food to eat.

So what do people do.. ordinarily they would work harder to produce more. But that isn't allowed in Europe the men with guns prevent production with the law and regulations for their 1984 classist society. People quickly figure out that in a world of force to survive and prosper you have to get guns too, and you have to organize with as many others as possible who also have guns. And you have to liberally use those guns to kill people, then you get negotiating position against the other men with guns.

This is why Europe was at perma war after Rome fell and Europe devolved into feudalism. You want to either become the Lords or at least be men at arms working for the Lords. You see Lords must pay men at arms more than all the other Lords, or the men at arms switch sides.


In this world all men want to learn the martial arts of war and policing. So you get this highly trained, armed populace who is fighting it out all the time. Its like Game of Thrones.

Over

 

[NoMoreHope]

Jews get richer . Somebody restart the Third Reich please.

 

[wei#3959]

Still inkwell