Why do you guys still refuse and deny MGTOW?

[Deleted member 4760]

I think you’re missing a category. The incel category is very real in my opinion. There is a large segment of mainly young men who are below average in the looks department who want to get laid but cannot in this present environment. If they advance in their careers (probably in technical fields), they may graduate to beta bucks later on in life though. Lucky them. Hopefully they make it to MGTOW before offing themselves.

''What frustrates the hell out of me is how the incels don't understand it's better to be single and alone than be some settling whore's Beta Bux. I tried showing them this: https://www.psychologytoday.com/blo...01608/the-consequences-no-physical-attraction ....but got trolled to Hell and back for it.''

''That article is so fucking sad, but anyone who has ever been in an LTR knows damn well that that is what it’s like. Incels, you really aren’t missing out. Find a GFE escort if you really crave female affection but leave it at that.''

Here:



This thread tells it all and gives at least some meaning to your life as a sub-5 male.

''Absolutely. That’s what I love about MGTOW, the sudden realisation that you have nothing to prove to anyone. No matter where you are on this scale; you don’t have to give a shit.''

''It's not about what you are, but how you are percived.
If you are percived like a Chad you could get to fuck but not a relationship, if you are not percived like a Chad, you are percived like beta bucks, gonna get a reationship, but gonna get cheated with a Chad, and later, divorce-raped.''

I mean, we all keep saying that, cope, there is no hope and it's all over for us and we're mostly true.

I've been flirting on so many forums and social networks/blogs/video that encompasses MGTOW, RED PIll concepts, PUA, Lookism and such and honestly MGTOW seems to be the most reliant, self-aware and comepletely honest to what it is.

Is there a lot of complaining about women? Yes, but so there is MUCH more here in Incel community.
Is it not just a form of coping? Yes, but so is ranting about women here on Incel Community.

The difference is in MGTOW, there IS a confidence that is being developped.

The confidence of not giving a fuck about committing to women.

I've seen the damage it did to all the paternal figure in my family (uncle and dad) and no fucking way, I''' cry all my life that women don't want me.

Get rich and fuck hoes. Adopt a kid make one through lab or in-vitro. Get rich, attract golddiggers and single women, pretend you want to commit. Proceed to pump and dump em like Chad used to do it back in their 20's. That's a sweet revenge I'd say. Better than going ER.

Look folks, I love this community but the black pill really brings serious depression since you don't see the exit (ergo its over) which is why MGTOW is a legit cope in my opinion.

Go MGTOW and work on yourself. I don't give if some of you hate me for preaching this but I'll try to support and convert as many as I can here.

I'd rather you guys go MGTOW than to become another betacuck provider which ultimately most of you will become (please don't)!!

 

[StormlitAqua]

I can see why an incel would not want to be MGTOW, but I still think we should be frineds with them. We are alot closer than farther.

 

[Enigmatic93]

A lot of people here don't like how most MGTOWs are clearly coping by pretending that they're voluntarily ignoring women when in reality it's women that are ignoring them.

Going your own way is actually legit as long as you recognize that you don't have much of a choice because of your looks.

 

[Fontaine]

A lot of people here don't like how most MGTOWs are clearly coping by pretending that they're voluntarily ignoring women when in reality it's women that are ignoring them.

Going your own way is actually legit as long as you recognize that you don't have much of a choice because of your looks.

Yeah, what I dislike in MGTOW is the pride. There's nothing wrong in voluntary celibacy if you admit that this celibacy is only partly voluntary.

 

[Deleted member 4760]

A lot of people here don't like how most MGTOWs are clearly coping by pretending that they're voluntarily ignoring women when in reality it's women that are ignoring them.

Going your own way is actually legit as long as you recognize that you don't have much of a choice because of your looks.

That's generalizing and stereotyping. The same thing normies do to us pretending we're all pedophiles that don't take showers.


MGTOW encompass a variety of men. Some of them were indeed, SENT away by women not wanting them, but some were post-divorced men giving legit advice on how to handle single life and work on yourself.

 

[chadmarco]

A lot of people here don't like how most MGTOWs are clearly coping by pretending that they're voluntarily ignoring women when in reality it's women that are ignoring them.

Going your own way is actually legit as long as you recognize that you don't have much of a choice because of your looks.

To me it seems more like you guys will say an incel is vocel and vocel is incel depending on which one is more convenient at that moment. If anyone comes here without any sort of major deformity and won't fuck fat chicks hes deemed a vocel, but if he says hes mgtow then hes incel.

 

[Fontaine]

MGTOW encompass a variety of men.

It encompasses men who can't get happy and trustful relationships, or can't get relationships where they are fully dominant.

This tells more about them than about women, since many men have had access to what they can't get.

 

[Enigmatic93]

That's generalizing and stereotyping. The same thing normies do to us pretending we're all pedophiles that don't take showers.


MGTOW encompass a variety of men. Some of them were indeed, SENT away by women not wanting them, but some were post-divorced men giving legit advice on how to handle single life and work on yourself.

I never said all of them do what I described, but a good portion of them do. There are legit blackpilled incel MGTOWs who know that their looks are the problem like Steve Hoca. I'm just letting you know why some people here hate MGTOW.

 

[bkdreamkb]

Lots of incels still have hopes on finding a girl.

In a sense I am a MGOTW since I am not pursuing a relationship and I know how bad it is. We just need to get used to be alone, we can't change womens narrow mind anyway.

 

[Notgoingtomakeit]

MGTOW is legit. The only problem is that it's made for people who have things going for them. We are talking like a small percentage of the population who can get laid, with a job, money, status, etc.

We are all bottom feeders so MGTOW is absolutely dumb as fuk

 

[Deleted member 4760]

To me it seems more like you guys will say an incel is vocel and vocel is incel depending on which one is more convenient at that moment. If anyone comes here without any sort of major deformity and won't fuck fat chicks hes deemed a vocel, but if he says hes mgtow then hes incel.

Good point. However I think it is possible to be MGTOW AND incel somehow..

Remember MGTOW is not a movement, it's a personal ideology that every individual can follow on his own rules...

Can't attract women? Fine. That's sad and depressive but at least there are other things in life.
Is society becoming a major gynocracy centered don women's need and way. Yes, however I won't be part of it.
Are marriage laws unfair and end up screwing most men? Yes, but who cares, I won't marry anyway.

Might as well work on myself and earn money for myself only. MGTOW gives an answer to this.
MGTOW gives an answer to celibacy------> Don't give a fuck. Keep enjoying the other sides of life.

Inceldom and black pill gives absolutely ZERO answer to it. ZERO!


Oh yes..it does...Rope and ER...

I say; choose your poison.

 

[Redpill Robert]

I agree with you.

 

[Ritalincel]

LDAR > cope

 

[Deleted member 3291]

you think most of us have the motivation to pursue anything?

 

[chadmarco]

Good point. However I think it is possible to be MGTOW AND incel somehow..

Remember MGTOW is not a movement, it's a personal ideology that every individual can follow on his own rules...

Can't attract women? Fine. That's sad and depressive but at least there are other things in life.
Is society becoming a major gynocracy centered don women's need and way. Yes, however I won't be part of it.
Are marriage laws unfair and end up screwing most men? Yes, but who cares, I won't marry anyway.

Might as well work on myself and earn money for myself only. MGTOW gives an answer to this.
MGTOW gives an answer to celibacy------> Don't give a fuck. Keep enjoying the other sides of life.

Inceldom and black pill gives absolutely ZERO answer to it. ZERO!


Oh yes..it does...Rope and ER...

I say; choose your poison.

I agree for the most part. Even though I'm virginal as fuck I still manage to enjoy life without hating woman, so I try to give my perspective and hope someone can see that its possible to be sexless and still love life. But its really not my place to say how they should feel, lookism can have some pretty gnarly effects on the psyche and our lives depending on the severity of your inferiority, I might have just gotten off easy, but then again, I have a 3 inch dick.

 

[Larrysellers]

MGTOW is a massive cope and incels see that

 

[BrokenRotten]

Here:



This thread tells it all and gives at least some meaning to your life as a sub-5 male.




I mean, we all keep saying that, cope, there is no hope and it's all over for us and we're mostly true.

I've been flirting on so many forums and social networks/blogs/video that encompasses MGTOW, RED PIll concepts, PUA, Lookism and such and honestly MGTOW seems to be the most reliant, self-aware and comepletely honest to what it is.

Is there a lot of complaining about women? Yes, but so there is MUCH more here in Incel community.
Is it not just a form of coping? Yes, but so is ranting about women here on Incel Community.

The difference is in MGTOW, there IS a confidence that is being developped.

The confidence of not giving a fuck about committing to women.

I've seen the damage it did to all the paternal figure in my family (uncle and dad) and no fucking way, I''' cry all my life that women don't want me.

Get rich and fuck hoes. Adopt a kid make one through lab or in-vitro. Get rich, attract golddiggers and single women, pretend you want to commit. Proceed to pump and dump em like Chad used to do it back in their 20's. That's a sweet revenge I'd say. Better than going ER.

Look folks, I love this community but the black pill really brings serious depression since you don't see the exit (ergo its over) which is why MGTOW is a legit cope in my opinion.

Go MGTOW and work on yourself. I don't give if some of you hate me for preaching this but I'll try to support and convert as many as I can here.

I'd rather you guys go MGTOW than to become another betacuck provider which ultimately most of you will become (please don't)!!

'you are either a chad or a beta male provider' This stupid fucking faggot. I'm neither. I've done a good job of putting women through Hell in my lifetime and I'll keep doing it (a good one was when this crazy bitch gave me access to her league of legends account she had spent hundreds of pounds on and I got it perma-banned and turned her little boyfriend on her. Hope she's dead by now). They are so fucking out of it; she called my brother up on the phone in tears; sobbing and gasping 'Oi Grehtuhl, ihts all my fault m8."

 

[HarveyIsAHero]

The confidence of not giving a fuck about committing to women.

You can't commit to a woman you can't get... MGTOW get women and fail. Incels don't ever get women.

 

[Deleted member 2047]

Because you can't be both incel and MGTOW.

90% of MGTOW are actually just incels anyway'

The true blackpill is that women actually treat men they are attracted to with kindness and respect. You wouldn't need to "MGTOW" if you were acceptable to women in first place

 

[Deleted member 5089]

MGTOW is pure cope. You can change how you act but you can't change what you want. I can pretend I'm some self-reliant, MGTOW guy, but I would still crave love and relationships.