Why do whites have so much variation in physicality?

[Hoodpreet]

When you look at contact or strength sports you frequently see a pattern where the GOATs are/were white, but as a group whites aren’t really overrepresented relative to population size. In the general population you also see quite a few whites that are tall, robustly built Cro-Magnid moggers, yet you also see quite a few sissi cuck guys like this.

Contrast this with a group like Polynesians (Samoan men are 40-56x more likely to end up in the NFL than non-Samoan men) or Kavkaz (most athletic achievements per capita out of any race), who do have marked overrepresentation in sports.

I can think of a few factors that are probably responsible in part. The first being population size. Whites are 10% of the globe while Polys and Kavkaz are much smaller populations. So naturally a group with far more population size will also have a more unequal population-level distribution of traits.

Another factor may be HG DNA. Whites are high in Steppe pastoralist and Farmer DNA, but certain groups are rich in Western Hunter-Gatherer DNA as well (plus Balkans who have high CHG and Balts who have high EHG). I doubt it’s coincidence that legendary white athletes have a tendency to come from either Anglo, Slavic, Gaelic, Nordic, Baltic, or Continental Germanic backgrounds given this information (all have heightened HG relative to Mediterranean and Alpine whites). Very athletic/strong whites also tend to have Cro-Magnid phenotypes, which is salient info as Cro-Magnon DNA was incorporated into the European gene pool by Western Hunter Gatherers.

I wonder if robust and athletic whites may perhaps be unusually high in HG admixture even relative to other members of their same specific ethnic group. It would make sense as HG lifestyle likely selected for explosive power and speed (for combat, hunting, and evading predators), whereas farming or Steppe herding lifestyle likely selected for endurance. Kavkaz and Polynesians – the two groups I mentioned above as being overrepresented among top-tier athletes, are also both very high in HG DNA – which I again doubt is coincidence.

Microplastics, atrazine, goyslop, and sedentary lifestyles are also making whites more dysgenic with time; that’s likely another factor.

Curious to know what you guys’ explanations are

Spoiler: Race Realists

@wereq @Excalibur @BasedGoyslopReviews @Lonely Slav @Emperor of Mongo @The Notorious SLAV

 

[Hoodpreet]

South Asians (and South Indians in particular) are one of the only groups I can think of that’s HG-rich yet also unathletic and weak as fuck. In our case I think it’s tropical evolution and adaptation to famine and malnourishment that’s to blame, among other factors

 

[Goofygoober007]

South Asians (and South Indians in particular) are one of the only groups I can think of that’s HG-rich yet also unathletic and weak as fuck. In our case I think it’s tropical evolution and adaptation to famine and malnourishment that’s to blame, among other factors

India is a toxic hell hole and when you dont get enough nutrients its makes you more susceptible to toxic overload. I have theory thats why theres so much rape and such in India. Shit literally rots your brain and makes people antisocial combine that with their views on women its a recipe for disaster. Also those gentic changes caused by the malnutrition passes down the family including the metals and lack of nutrients.

 

[GloomyGhoul]

When you look at contact or strength sports you frequently see a pattern where the GOATs are/were white, but as a group whites aren’t really overrepresented relative to population size. In the general population you also see quite a few whites that are tall, robustly built Cro-Magnid moggers, yet you also see quite a few sissi cuck guys like this.
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Contrast this with a group like Polynesians (Samoan men are 40-56x more likely to end up in the NFL than non-Samoan men) or Kavkaz (most athletic achievements per capita out of any race), who do have marked overrepresentation in sports.

I can think of a few factors that are probably responsible in part. The first being population size. Whites are 10% of the globe while Polys and Kavkaz are much smaller populations. So naturally a group with far more population size will also have a more unequal population-level distribution of traits.

Another factor may be HG DNA. Whites are high in Steppe pastoralist and Farmer DNA, but certain groups are rich in Western Hunter-Gatherer DNA as well (plus Balkans who have high CHG and Balts who have high EHG). I doubt it’s coincidence that legendary white athletes have a tendency to come from either Anglo, Slavic, Gaelic, Nordic, Baltic, or Continental Germanic backgrounds given this information (all have heightened HG relative to Mediterranean and Alpine whites). Very athletic/strong whites also tend to have Cro-Magnid phenotypes, which is salient info as Cro-Magnon DNA was incorporated into the European gene pool by Western Hunter Gatherers.

I wonder if robust and athletic whites may perhaps be unusually high in HG admixture even relative to other members of their same specific ethnic group. It would make sense as HG lifestyle likely selected for explosive power and speed (for combat, hunting, and evading predators), whereas farming or Steppe herding lifestyle likely selected for endurance. Kavkaz and Polynesians – the two groups I mentioned above as being overrepresented among top-tier athletes, are also both very high in HG DNA – which I again doubt is coincidence.

Microplastics, atrazine, goyslop, and sedentary lifestyles are also making whites more dysgenic with time; that’s likely another factor.

Curious to know what you guys’ explanations are

Spoiler: Race Realists

@wereq @Excalibur @BasedGoyslopReviews @Lonely Slav @Emperor of Mongo @The Notorious SLAV

What are we considering white? Because people from the Middle East and mainland Europe belong to the same group and overlap heavily

 

[Hoodpreet]

Because people from the Middle East and mainland Europe belong to the same group and overlap heavily

Middle Easterners, Europeans, and Kavkaz all belong to the same “West Eurasian” genetic macro-population but form smaller relatively homogenous clusters within it.

I don’t see why your apparent hang-up is relevant anyway considering I clearly distinguished Kavkaz from whites in the post, and they’re more closely related to Euros than Middle Easterners are (being a peripheral population that sits in between both). It’s clear as day that “white” in the sense I used it means European

 

[Lonely Slav]

Another factor may be HG DNA. Whites are high in Steppe pastoralist and Farmer DNA, but certain groups are rich in Western Hunter-Gatherer DNA as well (plus Balkans who have high CHG and Balts who have high EHG). I doubt it’s coincidence that legendary white athletes have a tendency to come from either Anglo, Slavic, Gaelic, Nordic, Baltic, or Continental Germanic backgrounds given this information (all have heightened HG relative to Mediterranean and Alpine whites). Very athletic/strong whites also tend to have Cro-Magnid phenotypes, which is salient info as Cro-Magnon DNA was incorporated into the European gene pool by Western Hunter Gatherers.

Considering where Balkaners plot, I am rather surprised by their height and strength. Even though we're more "southern" shifted - closer to SE Europeans like S. Italians and Greeks - some of the aforementioned groups still average more shorter and weaker folks. What's also interesting is that S. Italians and Greeks still have a good chunk of HG ancestry (with Iran_N in model equipotent with CHG), yet don't reach the same averages in strength or height.

Funny how genetics works.

I wonder if robust and athletic whites may perhaps be unusually high in HG admixture even relative to other members of their same specific ethnic group. It would make sense as HG lifestyle likely selected for explosive power and speed (for combat, hunting, and evading predators), whereas farming or Steppe herding lifestyle likely selected for endurance. Kavkaz and Polynesians – the two groups I mentioned above as being overrepresented among top-tier athletes, are also both very high in HG DNA – which I again doubt is coincidence.

I think it's more multifaceted than that. Yamnaya people likely more of a factor than the WHG, due to being more large and powerfully built, but since WHG and ANF were smaller, it makes since that they selected for "higher quality" mass. ergo, IMHO, your EEF (ANF + WHG) ancestors contributed more to overall strength, whilst your Steppe ancestors contributed more to sheer muscle size.

rs12055409, rs4626333, rs2273555

Just theorising for the sake of this thought exercise. One should also note:

Recent reviews suggested that there are at least 38 DNA polymorphisms (single nucleotide polymorphisms; SNPs) associated with strength athlete status

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[wereq]

yet you also see quite a few sissi cuck guys like this.

Microplastics, atrazine, goyslop, and sedentary lifestyles are also making whites more dysgenic with time; that’s likely another factor.

White soys like this don't get selected out through natural selection. Whites have more cultural variation over vast landmasses as well which enables soys to stay in the population. Polynesians are poorer than Whites and smaller in number and occupying area so natural selection is greater.

 

[Roastie Crusher]

Looks semitic to me.

 

[BasedGoyslopReviews]

u sure thats not a jew my guy look at the earlobes

 

[hunter x atomics]

generally most groups of people have diverse physicality. not just whites atleast any area with a semi diverse genetic genepool. look at someone like lebron tyreek hills and then compare them to edward kipchoge or katt williams. its not that odd or specific to whites

 

[hunter x atomics]

India is a toxic hell hole and when you dont get enough nutrients its makes you more susceptible to toxic overload. I have theory thats why theres so much rape and such in India. Shit literally rots your brain and makes people antisocial combine that with their views on women its a recipe for disaster. Also those gentic changes caused by the malnutrition passes down the family including the metals and lack of nutrients.

 

[hunter x atomics]

generally most groups of people have diverse physicality. not just whites atleast any area with a semi diverse genetic genepool. look at someone like lebron tyreek hills and then compare them to edward kipchoge or katt williams. its not that odd or specific to whites

races tend to hold a lot of groups of people with a lot of varying racial genetic data. if instead of saying white you said scandanavian the genetic differences arent that visible. if instead of saying black you said south african same thing

 

[nirvana]

We have spread a lot globally and were subject to various types of environmental pressure and natural selection. Just one hypothesis.

 

[Hoodpreet]

u sure thats not a jew my guy look at the earlobes

Nvm that guy’s very likely a Jew. But my point was you do see similar white soys to that

 

[Hoodpreet]

if instead of saying white you said scandanavian the genetic differences arent that visible

They are though. Yeah Scandis are tall-ish on average, but I’ve seen a lot of weak and soy ones, yet there are also many strong ones like Hafþór Björnsson and Alexander Gustafsson. Meanwhile I’ve never seen a soy Polynesian or Kavkaz.

For now I chalk it up to the theories I presented in the post, that the strongest whites may have unusually high HG DNA (and prob favorable recombination with Steppe genetics as well, as Lonely Slav brought up regarding quality + quantity of mass), plus greater variation among whites probably exists partly cause of modern soy lifestyles that are less common among groups like Polys or Kavkaz

 

[Q. H. Cooks]

Asians all descend from a small group that migrated east. Whites and especially blacks descend from much bigger groups.

 

[The Notorious SLAV]

I can think of a few factors that are probably responsible in part. The first being population size. Whites are 10% of the globe while Polys and Kavkaz are much smaller populations. So naturally a group with far more population size will also have a more unequal population-level distribution of traits.

I think that might be the main reason here. Whites have a large population, especially when it comes to the share of athletes and other sportsmen we'd be looking at here, along with a decent base strength-wise. The wide variation is more so just inevitable given the numbers.

 

[Blackpill Monk]

strongest whites

They have higher percentage of Steppe DNA