Discussion Why do Indians LARP as other ethnicities online?

[Balikesir]

Made in Heaven can't speak Arabic since he's a Turk. But they both clubs all the middle eastern races into one: Persian, Arab, Turk and claim genetically they're the same

The east asian ancestry in Turkish people already catapults them far away from anyone. They get close to Azeris because Azeris share this east asian ancestry as well.

Eastern Turks who have little to no Turkic plot with Armenians and laz people.

The Bedouin ancestry in Arabs makes it impossible for these Turks to plot close to them. They're Muslim Armenians. Kurds don't plot with Arabs either. They plot with Iranians because kurds are an iranic subgroup.

In short: No. I have no idea how he can simplify the middle east like this. At that point say Pakistanis, Indians and Africans are racially the same as Turks and Arabs too

 

[Balikesir]

Interesting. What tool is this?

Its global 25

 

[anandkonda29]

The east asian ancestry in Turkish people already catapults them far away from anyone. They get close to Azeris because Azeris share this east asian ancestry as well.

Eastern Turks who have little to no Turkic plot with Armenians and laz people.

The Bedouin ancestry in Arabs makes it impossible for these Turks to plot close to them. They're Muslim Armenians. Kurds don't plot with Arabs either. They plot with Iranians because kurds are an iranic subgroup.

In short: No. I have no idea how he can simplify the middle east like this. At that point say Pakistanis, Indians and Africans are racially the same as Turks and Arabs too

He says this

Turks and Arabs are the same race, you deranged fuckwad.

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Some NPCS can't comprehend the fact that language does not equal genetics. Iranians and Anatolians are both genetically the same as Northern Arabs

An Iranian is just as far apart from a northern Saudi as a Russian is from a Spanish person.

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[Chudpreet29]

The east asian ancestry in Turkish people already catapults them far away from anyone. They get close to Azeris because Azeris share this east asian ancestry as well.

Eastern Turks who have little to no Turkic plot with Armenians and laz people.

The Bedouin ancestry in Arabs makes it impossible for these Turks to plot close to them. They're Muslim Armenians. Kurds don't plot with Arabs either. They plot with Iranians because kurds are an iranic subgroup.

In short: No. I have no idea how he can simplify the middle east like this. At that point say Pakistanis, Indians and Africans are racially the same as Turks and Arabs too

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't all or most MENA people primarily a mix of Neolithic Anatolians, Neolithic Iranians, and Natufians (with Turkish people also possessing substantial Turkic ancestry and Iranians possessing Middle-to-Late Bronze Age Proto-Indo-European)?

 

[Skelly]

big if true

 

[Todd Thundercock]

4 pages on the most water question ever.

 

[Balikesir]

He says this

Very simple to disprove. Let me show you with updated data.

This is an ultimate average for Turkey as a whole. Taking in every single area of turkey minus the southeast.

Here is only western turkey.

As you can see Turks don't plot with anyone. They barely plot with Ottoman Turks (Ottoman Turks were half Greek half Central Asian, modern Turks are {in west} 75% Greek 25% Turkic). This is a unique mix of east asian and west eurasian not found in any population outside of Azeri Turks. That is the only modern group Turkish people plot with.

If you want to see how Turks plot you would be required to remove the east asian dna. Or use Byzantine Anatolian samples. Either way I hope I was able to explain it properly

 

[Balikesir]

Very simple to disprove. Let me show you with updated data.

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This is an ultimate average for Turkey as a whole. Taking in every single area of turkey minus the southeast.

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Here is only western turkey.

As you can see Turks don't plot with anyone. They barely plot with Ottoman Turks (Ottoman Turks were half Greek half Central Asian, modern Turks are {in west} 75% Greek 25% Turkic). This is a unique mix of east asian and west eurasian not found in any population outside of Azeri Turks. That is the only modern group Turkish people plot with.

If you want to see how Turks plot you would be required to remove the east asian dna. Or use Byzantine Anatolian samples. Either way I hope I was able to explain it properly

@Chudpreet i hope this answers your question

 

[anandkonda29]

Very simple to disprove. Let me show you with updated data.

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This is an ultimate average for Turkey as a whole. Taking in every single area of turkey minus the southeast.

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Here is only western turkey.

As you can see Turks don't plot with anyone. They barely plot with Ottoman Turks (Ottoman Turks were half Greek half Central Asian, modern Turks are {in west} 75% Greek 25% Turkic). This is a unique mix of east asian and west eurasian not found in any population outside of Azeri Turks. That is the only modern group Turkish people plot with.

If you want to see how Turks plot you would be required to remove the east asian dna. Or use Byzantine Anatolian samples. Either way I hope I was able to explain it properly

What about his claim of Iranians and Arabs being similar?

 

[Balikesir]

What about his claim of Iranians and Arabs being similar?

Iranians and arabs aren't similar either. I lack the data sadly because im not interested in Arabian and Iranian dna. But Iranians have 20% Indo Iranian ancestry (Sintashta). This already sets them apart from Arabs, who usually lack this component entirely.

 

[Balikesir]

Iranians and arabs aren't similar either. I lack the data sadly because im not interested in Arabian and Iranian dna. But Iranians have 20% Indo Iranian ancestry (Sintashta). This already sets them apart from Arabs, who usually lack this component entirely.

Sorry I think I should clarify I mean the Iranian ethnic group Persians. Iran is diverse and some iranian groups have AASI, others high CHG due to Çerkes ancestry.

Anyhow its not similar to arabs.

 

[Chudpreet29]

@Chudpreet i hope this answers your question

I see. So Turkish people are genetically closer to Kavkaz people than they are to most of the Middle East? Checks out with this graph I've seen elsewhere

Definitely seems like MENA people form less of a coherent "race" than Europeans do, at least in terms of clustering

 

[Emba]

aint no way nigga

 

[Balikesir]

I see. So Turkish people are genetically closer to Kavkaz people than they are to Arabs, etc.? Checks out with this graph I've seen elsewhere
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yep

Definitely seems like MENA people form less of a coherent "race" than Europeans do, at least in terms of clustering

Europeans are very homogeneous. People would migrate to our lands rather than the cold ancient Europe. This is changing these days because Europe went from underdeveloped to the most developed place in the whole world.

 

[Ihatefaggots]

Something I've noticed is that there have been a number of Indian posters LARPing as other ethnicities, yet all their non-VPN IPs are located in India. Really strange. I bet there are even Lebanese ultra nationalists that are secretly Indian, haha, could you imagine?

cuz they know they're the most inferior race, and they smell like cow shit

 

[Balikesir]

see. So Turkish people are genetically closer to Kavkaz people than they are to Arabs, etc.? Checks out with this graph I've seen elsewhere

I have to be very autistic about this but bear with me.

Plotting=/=genetics necessarily. The reason Turks plot with Caucasian peoples is their unique bit of east asian.

I removed this east asian component from Turks once and the western Turks plotted with Aegean islanders. Southern Turks with Cypriots and central Turks with Cappadocian Greeks.

Distances/plotting can be misleading for the uneducated. I hope I didn't sound like an asshole

 

[Balikesir]

I have to be very autistic about this but bear with me.

Plotting=/=genetics necessarily. The reason Turks plot with Caucasian peoples is their unique bit of east asian.

I removed this east asian component from Turks once and the western Turks plotted with Aegean islanders. Southern Turks with Cypriots and central Turks with Cappadocian Greeks.

Distances/plotting can be misleading for the uneducated. I hope I didn't sound like an asshole

A half Chinese half German person may plot with Siberian Tatars. This doesn't make him a siberian Tatar.

 

[Chudpreet29]

I have to be very autistic about this but bear with me.

Plotting=/=genetics necessarily. The reason Turks plot with Caucasian peoples is their unique bit of east asian.

I removed this east asian component from Turks once and the western Turks plotted with Aegean islanders. Southern Turks with Cypriots and central Turks with Cappadocian Greeks.

Distances/plotting can be misleading for the uneducated. I hope I didn't sound like an asshole

A half Chinese half German person may plot with Siberian Tatars. This doesn't make him a siberian Tatar.

JFL, no offense taken, your explanation didn't come across as pretentious at all. I can see how people on normie social media might react to it poorly though, since any nuanced explanation is too much for them to comprehend.

I'm aware that Plotting isn't necessarily indicative of ancestry, but if one group plots with another that is an indicator of genetic closeness/similarity, right? Ngl I'm a bit of a newbie to population genetics, lol

 

[DarkStar]

I see. So Turkish people are genetically closer to Kavkaz people than they are to most of the Middle East? Checks out with this graph I've seen elsewhere
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Definitely seems like MENA people form less of a coherent "race" than Europeans do, at least in terms of clustering

But when I say it.....

 

[Balikesir]

I'm aware that Plotting isn't necessarily indicative of ancestry, but if one group plots with another that is an indicator of genetic closeness/similarity, right? Ngl I'm a bit of a newbie to population genetics, lol

Turks shift to Caucasus because their east asian shifts them more to the east. If you remove this component Turks plot with their neighbors. Western Turks with Aegean islands, Eastern Turks with Armenians...

 

[Chudpreet29]

Turks shift to Caucasus because their east asian shifts them more to the east. If you remove this component Turks plot with their neighbors. Western Turks with Aegean islands, Eastern Turks with Armenians...

But considering that Turks possess this East Asian component, as far as irl purposes are considered, they're more similar to Kavkaz than to Greeks & MENA, right?

 

[Balikesir]

But considering that Turks possess this East Asian component, as far as irl purposes are considered, they're more similar to Kavkaz than to Greeks & MENA, right?

Im not sure how you mean this.

Turks irl resemble the local population of Anatolia as it was in the Byzantine time. The 10% East Asian isn't changing their appearance on a large scale.

A minority can look like brown Chinese people.

On a genetic level the Turks shift to the Caucasus but aren't close to them. A distance of 0.05 or 0.10 is pretty far away. A distance of 0.01 means same population, distance of 0.3 means related population and 0.05 and above is hardly related.

Let me give you an example. Let's say you are a Swedish person with an African great grandpa. This would give you roughly 12% Sub Saharan genes. In dna sites you would shift towards the mena. This doesn't mean you're closely related to them. This just means that your mix fits best in this category but even then it isn't related at all. The plotting tries its best to find a population that is 100% like you and will give you whatever is necessary. Even when the distance is 0.10 and very far away.

Tldr: Plotting doesn't work for race mixed people. Turks carry genes from a totally foreign race, east asians, which makes them unplottable. Plotting works best for homogeneous ethnicities like Germans, Swedes.

 

[anandkonda29]

@Racial-Identitarian what do you think about this?

 

[Dregster]

Saaaaaaar I'm not Indian saaaaaaar I'm 5% Lebanese saaaaaaaaaar
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[NocturnalCel]

Something I've noticed is that there have been a number of Indian posters LARPing as other ethnicities, yet all their non-VPN IPs are located in India. Really strange. I bet there are even Lebanese ultra nationalists that are secretly Indian, haha, could you imagine?

Being Indian must be terrible. Whenever I dwell about how bad I have it, I remind myself that atleast I’m not a pajeet in some curry village knee deep in poo.

 

[Fevet]

Being Indian must be terrible. Whenever I dwell about how bad I have it, I remind myself that atleast I’m not a pajeet in some curry village knee deep in poo.

@Morphine . ݁₊ ⊹ . ݁ @light we're never making it out of our mudhuts

 

[NocturnalCel]

@Morphine . ݁₊ ⊹ . ݁ @light we're never making it out of our mudhuts

Hopefully about 1.5 billion of them choose the rope too…..

 

[Fevet]

Hopefully about 1.5 billion of them choose the rope too…..

Your smv stands unchanged brainlet

 

[Uggo Mongo]

Being Indian must be terrible. Whenever I dwell about how bad I have it, I remind myself that atleast I’m not a pajeet in some curry village knee deep in poo.

These are words never uttered in earnest by @comradespiderman29

 

[Racial-Identitarian]

What can they proud of?

Nothing i guess

 

[Racial-Identitarian]

Im not sure how you mean this.

Turks irl resemble the local population of Anatolia as it was in the Byzantine time. The 10% East Asian isn't changing their appearance on a large scale.

A minority can look like brown Chinese people.

Stop sugarcoating it
10% admixture is too huge to not have any impact

 

[Balikesir]

Stop sugarcoating it
10% admixture is too huge to not have any impact

Have you ever seen Turkish people? I don't think you did because you wouldn't be asking in a theoretical manner.

It doesn't have much impact. You are free to cope.

 

[Morphine . ݁₊ ⊹ . ݁]

@Morphine . ݁₊ ⊹ . ݁ @light we're never making it out of our mudhuts

What a shame. It must suck to be us. Waa waa

 

[anandkonda29]

Stop sugarcoating it
10% admixture is too huge to not have any impact

Have you ever seen Turkish people? I don't think you did because you wouldn't be asking in a theoretical manner.

It doesn't have much impact. You are free to cope.

Yeah 10-15% is the amount of proto-Aryan DNA in curries. Clearly almost no impact

 

[moggedbylife2much]

Think it's pretty simple. They don't want to be Indian

 

[Racial-Identitarian]

Have you ever seen Turkish people? I don't think you did because you wouldn't be asking in a theoretical manner.

It doesn't have much impact. You are free to cope.

Your argument is called privatization fallacy do better and dont try accuse me something i never say

It does have such impact from the microscopic genealogy point of view

If you run a DNA test using the subject a male Croat from balkan and some random male turk there is a higher probability that their paternal haplogroup will be completely different along with their admixture result.

 

[stalkerKiller]

Kek. I never even thought about it that way. But yeah it could be that some anons here are are larping as other nationalities because their own sucks so much.
Anyhow we are all inkwells so it doesn't matter. I'm sure that all the curries here larping as something else are truecels.

 

[tandoorichickencel]

who said this

Saint hamudi

 

[Subhuman Trucel]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't all or most MENA people primarily a mix of Neolithic Anatolians, Neolithic Iranians, and Natufians (with Turkish people also possessing substantial Turkic ancestry and Iranians possessing Middle-to-Late Bronze Age Proto-Indo-European)?

And sub saharan African

 

[Jud Pottah]

4chan is even worse lol