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Blackpill Why believing that normies have unenviable lives is merely an incel-specific extension of the the bluepill.

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The most obvious incel copes I see are usually an attempt to portray the world as a worse place than it actually is for normies - implying that there is endemic suffering for normies within the current system as an attempt to not feel so bad about one’s own insufferable situation is contradictory to the Blackpill in my opinion because it is quite clear to me that many incels only adopt this belief as a coping mechanism to help themselves feel less isolated in their own loneliness. Claiming that anywhere near half of all normie relationships result in cuckoldry is pure cope.

When you start believing something is true (if you actually care about the truth) you should automatically consider whether the belief provides you with respite from a previously acknowledged harsh reality, if so, you should mull over the belief for some time before establishing it as part of your philosophy, otherwise you will become reliant on it as a form of respite which will in turn give you a cognitive bias against any information, even if tangible, that may serve to discredit that belief. This is the very essence of the bluepill, and why normies insist upon its veracity in the face of mountains upon mountains of contradictory evidence. Most people cannot accept that the most important variable when it comes to human attraction is looks because the fact of the matter is that this information reduces humans - who are supposed to value deeper meaning above all else - to senseless, impulse driven animals, motivated by nothing more than base primal instincts which cannot be objectively rationalised. As humans like to think of themselves as rational creatures, they simply cannot reconcile their desire to explain everything rationally with the irrationality of their mate selection processes, and thus the bluepill is sustained.

Going by this definition, I see many beliefs expressed on this forum which claim to be blackpilled, which are in fact incel-specific variations on the bluepill. At the surface level, the belief that near to all normies are being cucked in their romantic relationships may appear like a blackpill because it seemingly provides further credence to the belief that human relationships are ultimately flawed and fucked up, but in reality it is a bluepill designed by incels, for incels with the intention of stemming the effects of jealousy felt when witnessing happy couples go about their happy lives. If every time you see a couple enjoying their day the pang of anger and jealousy felt is quickly extinguished by the calming realisation that "She's probably cucking him" or "He's being betabuxxed" then you have to question the veracity of that "realisation" and identify it for what it is; a coping mechanism to protect one's ego against an unpalatable reality - a bluepill.

Cuckoldry and Betabuxxing do exist, but nowhere near to the extent insisted by many on this site, which is a clear attempt to deny that the rest of the world is no better off than oneself and deny that the grass really is greener on the other side.

predictably, the incels I see who are most likely to propagate these types of incel-specific bluepilled beliefs are the ones who are most bitter and dissatisfied with their own lives, those who are most isolated; no friends, bullied all the way through school, severely autistic and NEET are usually the ones to insist that the world is almost equally fucked up for everyone, save Chad. Though I must say; it is totally understandable to me that those who have suffered most are those who rely most heavily on these delusional beliefs to cope, I am too much of believer of swallowing blackpills for what they are to not call out this bluepilled behaviour for what I believe it to be.

The true blackpill here is that although relationships are based on superficial criteria, they still feel as though they are profound (the illusion of love) and thus in the endless human pursuit of meaning are one of the default prerequisites for human happiness, and most humans in relationships are happy. This is the true blackpill for incels because it really hammers home the statistical unlikelihood of being born an Incel in a world where most people are born with the genetic capabilities to find happiness.

TLDR; It is very difficult to discern whether one's own beliefs are an exercise in self-preservation or an objective evaluation of reality for one simple reason; we are more likely to believe in things which provide us with some kind of comfort than those which make us feel uncomfortable, regardless of whether or not they are true. This is what I call a bluepill, religion is a generic example for this behaviour, and the belief that normies suffer under the current system is an incel-specific example of it as well.
 
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A normie life is paradise compared to the life of an incel. Normies get in relationships and have sex a hundred times a year. Jfl at incels who think the possibility or even the inevitability of normie losing a foid to a Chad diminishes the value of the hundred times he's fucked her. Infidelity today doesn't diminish the value of that blowjob you got yesterday.
 
Claiming that anywhere near a quarter of all normie relationships result in cuckoldry is pure cope.

So you think far less that a quarter of relationships in 2018 have involved infidelity?

Yeah, stopped reading here.
 
A normie life is paradise compared to the life of an incel. Normies get in relationships and have sex a hundred times a year. Jfl at incels who think the possibility or even the inevitability of normie losing a foid to a Chad diminishes the value of the hundred times he's fucked her. Infidelity today doesn't diminish the value of that blowjob you got yesterday.
50 percent of marriage end in divorse some turn into sexless marriages dosnt matter if the guy had sex100of times he still needs it and has own wife wont provide it to
him
 
dosnt matter if the guy had sex100of times he still needs it and has own wife wont provide it to him
That's retarded. Sex has value. Good experiences have value. Someone who's had sex hundreds of times is infinitely better off than an incel, even if he lost his foid to a chad. Believing otherwise is the most pathetic cope of a delusional moron.
 
tldr and I'm pretty sure it's another soypost
 
better incel than cuck.
But is it better to have sex a hundred times with a foid and then lose her to a Chad... or to have never had sex at all?
 
But is it better to have sex a hundred times with a foid and then lose her to a Chad... or to have never had sex at all?
you really think you're gonna have sex 100 times? JFL. You're lucky if you get starfish sex once a year.
 
So you think far less that a quarter of relationships in 2018 have involved infidelity?

Yeah, stopped reading here.
You’re right, haha - I had an updated version of this thread in which I had amended that statistic to half, but for some reason I have posted a draft here. In any sense, you should continue reading as my point still stands regardless.
 
you really think you're gonna have sex 100 times? JFL. You're lucky if you get starfish sex once a year.
Cope. Normies have sex, it's normal. If a high school girl hooks up with a high school boy or a college girl hooks up with a college guy (which is normal and happens to normies) she's doing it because she wants to fuck. There's no other reason for them to be in a relationship. And they're fucking every day or every other day or twice a week, which is 100x a year.

We're not incel because we're average, we are incel because we're way below average. Average guys have sex, it's no big deal for them.
 
tl;dr is it's better to be a normie than an incel
Well evidently, no incel is here by choice, and I’ve never see a normie who’d rather be an incel.
 
Cope. Normies have sex, it's normal. If a high school girl hooks up with a high school boy or a college girl hooks up with a college guy (which is normal and happens to normies) she's doing it because she wants to fuck. There's no other reason for them to be in a relationship. And they're fucking every day or every other day or twice a week, which is 100x a year.

We're not incel because we're average, we are incel because we're way below average. Average guys have sex, it's no big deal for them.
lol and you know this how exactly? I have high-tier normie friends who admit they only get lucky a few times a year. The reality is a lot of guys are starving in 2018. They're just too proud to admit it. You have no idea how much work it takes to get laid on a regular basis, especially when so many people are still living with their parents. Yeah COPE ROPE DOPE :feelstastyman:. If you want to make yourself miserable over something that's not even real, be my guest.

I don't get why you cucks are so eager to prove that we're missing out on something. Almost feels like a psyop tbh
 
tl;dr is it's better to be a normie than an incel

Thanks.

Also OP, normies have pros and cons but when it comes to dating it’s always a competition with chad, that’s why cheating is so common now with foids and divorce-rape is a thing.
 
lol and you know this how exactly? I have high-tier normie friends who admit they only get lucky a few times a year.
I'm sure some are in that situation. I on the other hand have low tier normie neighbors who fuck 4-5 times a week. Two sets of them. I've had low tier normie roommates who brought their girlfriends over 2-3 times a week for years. What were they doing when they locked themselves in a room and turned the music up? Young women have no reason, repeat no reason to be in a relationship with young men unless they're fucking all the time, which they do. When you see a young guy and a young girl holding hands on the street, they're fucking at least 2-3 times a week.

I don't get why you cucks are so eager to prove that we're missing out on something. Almost feels like a psyop tbh
I on the other hand do understand why you'd feel the need to cope that our lives are in any way comparable to normie lives. Normies in relationships fuck all the time, sometimes multiple times a day. Granted, they fuck one girl who sometimes isn't that attractive and when they get dumped they may have a dry spell... but normies fuck and we don't and that's the difference between normies and incels.
 
call me volcel, but tbh I´d rather fuck a hot hooker than a girl I feel zero physical attraction to.

The average girl I see in relationship here in Germany looks like the girl on the left:

ordinary-girls-before-after-makeup-4.jpg


I´m only really jealous when I see an attractive girl with her bf.
 
That's retarded. Sex has value. Good experiences have value. Someone who's had sex hundreds of times is infinitely better off than an incel, even if he lost his foid to a chad. Believing otherwise is the most pathetic cope of a delusional moron.[/QUOTE/] i agree normies are having it better than us our lived r a joke compared to them
 
tbh it just seems like you soyboys are trying to justify going betabux. You don't need to convince us. Go provide for that used up whore you always wanted, raise Chad's kids, and chop your balls off. We ain't stopping you
wow, what a powerful argument. Haven't heard that one before.
I'm only really jealous when I see an attractive girl with her bf.
SAME.
Young women have no reason, repeat no reason to be in a relationship with young men unless they're fucking all the time, which they do.
JFL if you actually believe this
 
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lol and you know this how exactly? I have high-tier normie friends who admit they only get lucky a few times a year. The reality is a lot of guys are starving in 2018. They're just too proud to admit it. You have no idea how much work it takes to get laid on a regular basis, especially when so many people are still living with their parents. Yeah COPE ROPE DOPE :feelstastyman:. If you want to make yourself miserable over something that's not even real, be my guest.

I don't get why you cucks are so eager to prove that we're missing out on something. Almost feels like a psyop tbh
It’s not about “proving we are missing out on something” man, it’s just about getting to what I believe to be the truth. I actually was torn over whether or not to make this post because I don’t feel that destroying people’s copes will improve their lives. I do however always see value in confronting a harsh reality even if it’s inconvenient and uncomfortable, which is why the blackpill fascinated me to begin with. My intention is not to upset anyone, so if you hate my posts that’s cool you are welcome to, but they are there for people who want to marvel with me at how absurdly fucked up and unfair the world is without trying to rose-tint it as a method of making oneself feel better about things.
Infidelity today doesn't diminish the value of that blowjob you got yesterday.
Blackpill quote of the century for any nihilist, I love it.
 
It’s not about “proving we are missing out on something” man, it’s just about getting to what I believe to be the truth. I actually was torn over whether or not to make this post because I don’t feel that destroying people’s copes will improve their lives. I do however always see value in confronting a harsh reality even if it’s inconvenient and uncomfortable, which is why the blackpill fascinated me to begin with. My intention is not to upset anyone, so if you hate my posts that’s cool you are welcome to, but they are there for people who want to marvel with me at how absurdly fucked up and unfair the world is without trying to rose-tint it as a method of making oneself feel better about things.
I tried to keep an open mind but my soy detector goes off every time you make a post. You seem very intent on convincing us to settle down and provide for sluts. I'm not stupid - you've been pushing this cuck agenda from the start.
 
tbh it just seems like you soyboys are trying to justify going betabux.
lol a teenaged normie fucking his girlfriend 100 times in a year is not a betabux. He's a normal guy doing things normal people do.

Go provide for that used up whore you always wanted, raise Chad's kids, and chop your balls off.
Lol, somebody's mad. Young guys who have girlfriends are not providing or raising Chad's kids. They're fucking their girlfriends, sometimes a couple of times a week, sometimes 7 times a week. Sometimes they're in a relationship for a few months, sometimes it's years. Young foids have no reason to be in relationships with young dudes unless they're fucking, so when you see two young people holding hands, know that they're fucking.

I'm sorry to shatter your delusion that normies and incels are sort of the same thing.
 
I tried to keep an open mind but my soy detector goes off every time you make a post. You seem very intent on convincing us to settle down and provide for sluts. I'm not stupid - you've been pushing this cuck agenda from the start.
No I don’t, lol. That could never have been my intention because I believe that most people here have a PSL rating too low to even be considered for betabuxx, the reason you read my posts through that lense is likely because you yourself have one high enough that you are recusing yourself by choice - in which case you are a volcel and my threads are not specifically addressed to you in the first place.
 
yeah lots of incels here will cope hard mgtow style.
 
lol a teenaged normie fucking his girlfriend 100 times in a year is not a betabux. He's a normal guy doing things normal people do.


Lol, somebody's mad. Young guys who have girlfriends are not providing or raising Chad's kids. They're fucking their girlfriends, sometimes a couple of times a week, sometimes 7 times a week. Sometimes they're in a relationship for a few months, sometimes it's years. Young foids have no reason to be in relationships with young dudes unless they're fucking, so when you see two young people holding hands, know that they're fucking.

I'm sorry to shatter your delusion that normies and incels are sort of the same thing.
LTRs aren't the norm anymore. We're in the middle of a "sexual recession" thanks to hookup culture and online dating. People are having less sex and losing their virginity later than ever before.

You don't know anything when you see two people holding hands - that's what you idiots don't realize. Things aren't always what they seem. Unless you witness it personally you got no idea what's really going on. Not even strictly talking about sex here. So many people are flexing these days, you can't be sure of anything.
No I don’t, lol. That could never have been my intention because I believe that most people here have a PSL rating too low to even be considered for betabuxx, the reason you read my posts through that lense is likely because you yourself have one high enough that you are recusing yourself by choice - in which case you are a volcel and my threads are not specifically addressed to you in the first place.
maybe, but I still think you're pushing an agenda
 
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There's truth to this post. However, there's an air of, "Norman's have it good, you incels wouldn't know anything about it." Tell us incels more about Normans, OP.
 
LTRs aren't the norm anymore. We're in the middle of a "sexual recession" thanks to hookup culture and online dating. People are having less sex and losing their virginity later than ever before.
Sure, but guys in relationships are fucking their girlfriends. Believing otherwise is a retarded cope.

You don't know anything when you see two people holding hands - that's what you idiots don't realize. Things aren't always what they seem. Unless you witness it personally you got no idea what's really going on. Not even strictly talking about sex here. So many people are flexing these days, you can never be sure of anything.
Yeah, maybe they're lizard people just pretending to be humans? Maybe only one guy on the planet is having sex while the rest are just walking around with a girl and making out and when they get home they're put into their cuck-cage?

You don't think boyfriends are having sex with their girlfriends and I'm the idiot? You're so desperate to believe that normal people are not doing this normal thing on which male-female relationships (and life itself for that matter) are based on that you're performing roastie-grade mental gymnastics.

Normies are fucking, incels are not. Discussion over.
 
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There's truth to this post. However, there's an air of, "Norman's have it good, you incels wouldn't know anything about it." Tell us incels more about Normans, OP.
Not my intention, I assure you. I try to relish the truth as much as it may hurt me, believe me it gives me no pleasure to see things this way but for some reason I get some kind of masochistic satisfaction when I feel I have laid things out as they truly are, painful as the process may be. The truth is always the most important thing to me, that is what most intrigues me about the blackpill to begin with, so I feel I do it a disservice when I do not point this kind of shit out.
 
Yeah, maybe they're lizard people just pretending to be humans? Maybe only one guy on the planet is having sex while the rest are just walking around with a girl and making out and when they get home they're put into their cuck-cage?

You don't think boyfriends are having sex with their girlfriends and I'm the idiot? You're so desperate to believe that normal people are not doing this normal thing on which male-female relationships (and life itself for that matter) are based on that you're performing roastie-grade mental gymnastics.

Normies are fucking, incels are not. Discussion over.
I didn't say any of that. You just went full retard so I'm done here. I don't think normies have it much better than us based on recent experiences and people I know personally. I'll leave it at that
 
I didn't say any of that. You just went full retard so I'm done here. I don't think normies have it much better than us based on recent experiences and people I know personally. I'll leave it at that
Do you honestly know normies who are in relationships and complain about doing nothing more with their gfs than holding hands?
 
So you think far less that a quarter of relationships in 2018 have involved infidelity?

Yeah, stopped reading here.
stats show like 70% of them include infidelity OMEGALUL
 
stats show like 70% of them include infidelity OMEGALUL
Most say below 40%, and that includes those which ‘ended due to infidieltity’ which essentially means one person started seeing another before breaking up with their original partner. I would place this in a different category to actively cheating with multiple people behind your partner’s back.
 
Isn't it almost impossible to tell how much normies are fucking each other as most surveys etc are based on their personal accounts? Men tend to lie up and women lie down on their lay numbers which would distort those figures.

Regardless, the vast majority of people have been able to enjoy sex and validation of some sort and will keep those experiences forever. This already puts them well ahead of us incels. :feelscry:
 
It’s mostly those sub8 theorists who claim this
Yeah I know man, it’s got to be the most retarded school of thought in the whole sphere, so much so that I barely bother addressing it in my threads anymore.
 
Yeah I know man, it’s got to be the most retarded school of thought in the whole sphere, so much so that I barely bother addressing it in my threads anymore.
Tbh I’ve started avoiding certain threads simply because there’s no arguing with some people. It’s seems the more retarded the idea, the harder they cling to it and no amount of logic or reason will convince them. It’s kind of like what you said about normies and their relationship with bluepilled thinking
 
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It’s kind of like what you said about normies and their relationship with bluepilled thinking
Yeah, I don’t see much of a difference tbh, it’s kind of like a combination of MGTOW thinking and incel vocabulary spliced into a new bluepill tailored towards incels who can’t cope with the true absurdity of the blackpill and the statistical unlikelyhood that it would affect them uniquely in the way that it does. In a way I can’t blame them for it since they will suffer far more in the wake of the blackpill than The normies will, but what I cannot get my head around is how anyone can actually buy into that shit on an intellectual level.
 
Yeah, I don’t see much of a difference tbh, it’s kind of like a combination of MGTOW thinking and incel vocabulary spliced into a new bluepill tailored towards incels who can’t cope with the true absurdity of the blackpill and the statistical unlikelyhood that it would affect them uniquely in the way that it does. In a way I can’t blame them for it since they will suffer far more in the wake of the blackpill than The normies will, but what I cannot get my head around is how anyone can actually buy into that shit on an intellectual level.
Well said, but given how they defend some of these cops theories, I’d be hard pressed to say that they’ve bought into it on an intellectual level. Half of the time their defense boils down to “ you’re a cuck”, “you’re not really blackpilled”, and “you’re a soyboy”
 
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legit posters tbh, a year ahead of the rest of the userbase ngl.

normies get sexual experiences in uni/school, get jobs more easily, can get good social circles and spend time with their homies. they have healthy T levels so fucking below their looksmatch doesnt bother them, they dont give two shits about raw female attraction and validation like low T high E high cortisol insecure incels do most of the time and have gf/sex occasionally.

incel life is legit many times worse than normie life, everything else is cope.
things only get really bad for normies when they descend due to agepill.
 
Very high IQ post.

However, OP, I think that you are missing an important point : if we incels focus that much on cuckoldry and betabuxxing, that’s because the Blackpill made us realize that if we ever « ascend » - another cope BTW -, we are going to end in such situations. This is why the famous motto « better incel than cuck » exists, it doesn’t mean « better incel than normie » but rather « better staying a real incel than a fake sexually successful person which in fact is just being cucked or betabuxxing »
 
any woman can cheat on her normie boyfriend with dozens of elite model tier guys literally within 30 minutes of setting up a Tinder account. She just can´t get those guys into a relationship, but that doesn´t keep her from trying.

You better believe women also know this. You are kidding yourself if you think they get sexually turned on by their skinnyfat/chubby, pale, balding boyfriend and they fuck like rabbits. Womens sex drive is much, much lower than mens sex drives, too.

Reality is non chad men have zero power in the relationship and they don´t have nearly as much sex as you think. You are just trying to put yourself down more because you are addicted to psychological pain.


This is the real reality of most relationships in the West:

guy 1: "Hey you wanna go play some basketball?"

guy 2: "Sure, I have to ask the boss first though and see if she allows me to"

*pulls out phone and calls his gf/wife*

being in a relationship with someone you feel no physical attraction to despite having sex is actually worse than being incel and fucking hot escorts.
 
Very high IQ post.

However, OP, I think that you are missing an important point : if we incels focus that much on cuckoldry and betabuxxing, that’s because the Blackpill made us realize that if we ever « ascend » - another cope BTW -, we are going to end in such situations. This is why the famous motto « better incel than cuck » exists, it doesn’t mean « better incel than normie » but rather « better staying a real incel than a fake sexually successful person which in fact is just being cucked or betabuxxing »
Yeah, there is some truth to that. I guess it stems from a hatred of normies and the fear of being a cuck causing a mental conflation somehow resulting in the belief that all normies are automatically cucks.
 
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