I am legitimately confused by this. Although I don't have stats on it, based on the presence of stated sexual preferences you'll find on the internet in places that people will talk about them, short men are the most undesirable people there are compared to all other possible combinations of sex and body size/shape. Even on inceltears, where foids will cherrypick insanely improbable exceptions (which prove the rule) to make it look like they're attracted to anything other than Chad (even though the exception is seldom them), a short man will only be getting sex and a relationship DESPITE his height or with a 5 foot tall girlfriend who doesn't care that he's 5'7 (see you don't have to be 6 foot 2 teehee although I'm 4'11 and my boyfriend is). Foids who claim they don't care much about height just say that he needs to be taller than her; imagine what they're actually thinking most of the time. Not once have I even seen a foid say something along the lines of "some women are really into short guys sweaty, my friend's mother's dog's caretaker's sister's sister-in-law actively seeks out short guys see no problem". It just doesn't happen.
Let's look at men and women of different body sizes and shapes. Men and women who are muscular, tall, skinny, fat and short. It's very easy to find communities that are attracted to these people or pornography of these people directed towards a heterosexual target audience on imageboards and reddit.
Muscular people of both genders are obviously in demand, a nice juicy ass from squats is obviously more attractive to most people than a flabby cellulite-ridden one. It is far more shapely. On the other end male muscle is hugely important, there's a reason people gymcel but they don't bonesmash.
Tall people are in demand. With men it's self-explanatory, with women the only reason they have a "hard" time dating when tall is because men know being heightmogged by them is deadly (or the women demand men 5 inches taller than them). There are plenty of men who have amazon fetishes and would want nothing more than being snu snu'd by a voluptuous giantess, alternatively there are a bunch of men on imageboards attracted to tall skelly women.
Skinny people are in demand. Some men are attracted to skinny women to the extent that they will encourage their anorexia. Not meme not eating a burger a day while being a US citizen anorexia either, actual anorexia, the type that makes women stop menstruating because they're so underweight. Women are attracted to lanklets, and will use this as their first line of defence against somebody claiming they are exclusively after the dicks of genetically-superior males who, for whatever reason, must be muscular.
Fat people are in demand. Whether it's women teeheeing over thor's "dad bod" or men who are attracted to women who literally cannot get out of bed, there exists a subset of both genders that is attracted to people who are overweight or obese. This is clearly fucking retarded, much moreso than being attracted to short men would be. While short people are at a greater risk of Alzheimer's and heart disease (also type 2 diabetes but that appears to be purely the result of them needing less sugar to fry their pancreases), they seem to be less at risk of a variety of cancers and joint problems as they age. Short men actually live longer on average due to their genes, so what health problems they are predisposed to are part of a mixed bag as opposed to of being part of the many curses of manletism. Meanwhile fat fucks can't stop dying of the most retarded things possible - they lose limbs to the beetus, their arteries are more clogged than the cervix of your looksmatch as you read this, and their colons are full of cancer from eating chicken nuggets that are pink until the meat gets bleached in the factory. They can't even do one pullup when skellies can.
Let's pretend for a second that sexual attraction is perfectly rational as opposed to being the result of natural selection throwing shit at the wall and seeing if it sticks. You might respond to this by saying that muscular people have better fitness overall, tall people are faster and stronger, skinny people show more bone definition because they're leaner and fat people have more energy stored on them. All of this doesn't explain why people are attracted to short women. As with poor facial bone structure, short height screams malnourishment (without the bone definition provided by attractive leanness), weakness, disease and death. However, even when the ideal relationship is one in which the man is 5 inches taller than the woman, many men still actively go out of their way to pursue the shortest women possible (it's not to even out their heights either, otherwise they wouldn't act so dumbfounded when their sons are manlets).
I myself, despite generally preferring women around my height as a coping almost-5'8 manlet, remember getting a huge stiffy one time in high school when I met a girl on the bus that I hadn't seen in a few years and who I had obviously outgrown. I can't put into words why I felt attraction to her based on our height difference but I really wanted to fuck her there and then. Why?
I think what it might be is that male height is a secondary sex characteristic. Women love talking about how 6'2 Chad makes them "feel small" which makes me uncomfortable, not just because I know I can't compete but also because I have a hard time empathising with women wanting to feel small as a heterosexual man. When I try to put myself in their shoes it just seems like big bubba is going to assrape me or I am getting bullied by an amazonian giantess (@Blacktarpill can probably tell you a lot more about this than I can) which I don't appreciate. However, women exist to be assraped and then impregnated by men who look kind of like big bubba. Maybe in this case it's less about being attracted to somebody who is fit to bear or sire a child, but moreso about us wanting to have sex with the nearest thing that looks the most like the opposite sex. Tall=man, short=woman, simple. Kind of like long hair on women (in all cultures, even pre-colonial African ones where women have crusty nappy hair that sticks to their head without placing lots of time and effort into it) even if long hair is a magnet for blood-sucking parasites (on the other hand, if you have nice, long, thick, silky hair you probably haven't had to worry about things sucking your blood or sapping your strength much, still though, if this is the case, why isn't long hair on men considered as sexually attractive? it's definitely a gendered thing).
When I think to myself about being a drunk Irish convict in 1790s Australia with access to only Aboriginal pussy, it becomes clear that I would certainly opt for the short long-haired boongs instead of the big dykey boongs. At least I can be sure those are female when they have clothes on. I don't know how ugly women were everywhere else back when they were chucking sticks at things but I'd imagine it took us a great deal of selection back then to get women to where they are today.
If this is true, it makes sense that the short man vs fat women comparison ("short men can't voluntarily gain height so how are they less attractive than fat women who don't take care of themselves?") falls on deaf ears to people outside of this community. A fat woman can be soft and cuddly even if she has a big ol gut, but a short guy just looks like an unmasculine ftm tranny. Even if he gymcels he just becomes a muscle tranny, which is something most straight men want to look at about as much as you or I. Being short isn't comparable to being fat or a skelly or even tall as a woman, because it's such an important secondary sex characteristic for men in particular. Think of it as being a voicecel but ten times more brutal, it's voiceceldom if you were forced by your genes to shout in a twelve year old squeaker voice 24 hours a day. Or a woman getting a double mastectomy, but men have a wider range of sexual taste so I'm sure somebody would be all over her anyway whereas manlets are forced to rot.
I don't know though, maybe I'm wrong, I doubt there's research on this because anthropologists and evolutionary psychologists don't want the people who buy their academic journals on jstor to rope. It definitely seems like something is up. What do you boyos reckon the cause for this is?
Let's look at men and women of different body sizes and shapes. Men and women who are muscular, tall, skinny, fat and short. It's very easy to find communities that are attracted to these people or pornography of these people directed towards a heterosexual target audience on imageboards and reddit.
Muscular people of both genders are obviously in demand, a nice juicy ass from squats is obviously more attractive to most people than a flabby cellulite-ridden one. It is far more shapely. On the other end male muscle is hugely important, there's a reason people gymcel but they don't bonesmash.
Tall people are in demand. With men it's self-explanatory, with women the only reason they have a "hard" time dating when tall is because men know being heightmogged by them is deadly (or the women demand men 5 inches taller than them). There are plenty of men who have amazon fetishes and would want nothing more than being snu snu'd by a voluptuous giantess, alternatively there are a bunch of men on imageboards attracted to tall skelly women.
Skinny people are in demand. Some men are attracted to skinny women to the extent that they will encourage their anorexia. Not meme not eating a burger a day while being a US citizen anorexia either, actual anorexia, the type that makes women stop menstruating because they're so underweight. Women are attracted to lanklets, and will use this as their first line of defence against somebody claiming they are exclusively after the dicks of genetically-superior males who, for whatever reason, must be muscular.
Fat people are in demand. Whether it's women teeheeing over thor's "dad bod" or men who are attracted to women who literally cannot get out of bed, there exists a subset of both genders that is attracted to people who are overweight or obese. This is clearly fucking retarded, much moreso than being attracted to short men would be. While short people are at a greater risk of Alzheimer's and heart disease (also type 2 diabetes but that appears to be purely the result of them needing less sugar to fry their pancreases), they seem to be less at risk of a variety of cancers and joint problems as they age. Short men actually live longer on average due to their genes, so what health problems they are predisposed to are part of a mixed bag as opposed to of being part of the many curses of manletism. Meanwhile fat fucks can't stop dying of the most retarded things possible - they lose limbs to the beetus, their arteries are more clogged than the cervix of your looksmatch as you read this, and their colons are full of cancer from eating chicken nuggets that are pink until the meat gets bleached in the factory. They can't even do one pullup when skellies can.
Let's pretend for a second that sexual attraction is perfectly rational as opposed to being the result of natural selection throwing shit at the wall and seeing if it sticks. You might respond to this by saying that muscular people have better fitness overall, tall people are faster and stronger, skinny people show more bone definition because they're leaner and fat people have more energy stored on them. All of this doesn't explain why people are attracted to short women. As with poor facial bone structure, short height screams malnourishment (without the bone definition provided by attractive leanness), weakness, disease and death. However, even when the ideal relationship is one in which the man is 5 inches taller than the woman, many men still actively go out of their way to pursue the shortest women possible (it's not to even out their heights either, otherwise they wouldn't act so dumbfounded when their sons are manlets).
I myself, despite generally preferring women around my height as a coping almost-5'8 manlet, remember getting a huge stiffy one time in high school when I met a girl on the bus that I hadn't seen in a few years and who I had obviously outgrown. I can't put into words why I felt attraction to her based on our height difference but I really wanted to fuck her there and then. Why?
I think what it might be is that male height is a secondary sex characteristic. Women love talking about how 6'2 Chad makes them "feel small" which makes me uncomfortable, not just because I know I can't compete but also because I have a hard time empathising with women wanting to feel small as a heterosexual man. When I try to put myself in their shoes it just seems like big bubba is going to assrape me or I am getting bullied by an amazonian giantess (@Blacktarpill can probably tell you a lot more about this than I can) which I don't appreciate. However, women exist to be assraped and then impregnated by men who look kind of like big bubba. Maybe in this case it's less about being attracted to somebody who is fit to bear or sire a child, but moreso about us wanting to have sex with the nearest thing that looks the most like the opposite sex. Tall=man, short=woman, simple. Kind of like long hair on women (in all cultures, even pre-colonial African ones where women have crusty nappy hair that sticks to their head without placing lots of time and effort into it) even if long hair is a magnet for blood-sucking parasites (on the other hand, if you have nice, long, thick, silky hair you probably haven't had to worry about things sucking your blood or sapping your strength much, still though, if this is the case, why isn't long hair on men considered as sexually attractive? it's definitely a gendered thing).
When I think to myself about being a drunk Irish convict in 1790s Australia with access to only Aboriginal pussy, it becomes clear that I would certainly opt for the short long-haired boongs instead of the big dykey boongs. At least I can be sure those are female when they have clothes on. I don't know how ugly women were everywhere else back when they were chucking sticks at things but I'd imagine it took us a great deal of selection back then to get women to where they are today.
If this is true, it makes sense that the short man vs fat women comparison ("short men can't voluntarily gain height so how are they less attractive than fat women who don't take care of themselves?") falls on deaf ears to people outside of this community. A fat woman can be soft and cuddly even if she has a big ol gut, but a short guy just looks like an unmasculine ftm tranny. Even if he gymcels he just becomes a muscle tranny, which is something most straight men want to look at about as much as you or I. Being short isn't comparable to being fat or a skelly or even tall as a woman, because it's such an important secondary sex characteristic for men in particular. Think of it as being a voicecel but ten times more brutal, it's voiceceldom if you were forced by your genes to shout in a twelve year old squeaker voice 24 hours a day. Or a woman getting a double mastectomy, but men have a wider range of sexual taste so I'm sure somebody would be all over her anyway whereas manlets are forced to rot.
I don't know though, maybe I'm wrong, I doubt there's research on this because anthropologists and evolutionary psychologists don't want the people who buy their academic journals on jstor to rope. It definitely seems like something is up. What do you boyos reckon the cause for this is?
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