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Why 2006? Well first I'll explain why I didn't pick 2007.

1) 2007 was when "social media" really began taking off. Facebook opened up to the general public, twitter started blowing up in popularity and Tumblr was created this year. Yes, social media was around in 2006, like myspace and friendster (and facebook existed then but it was only for college students) 2007 was the year social media really blew up.

2) 2007 was also the year 4chan slowly started to decline in quality. 4chan started getting media coverage like the Fox News piece about it being an "internet hate machine" and 2007 was the year "project chanology" started. Both of these things brought in newfags that slowly changed the vibe. 4chan was still fun in 2007, but it wasn't the same as 2006.

3) The iphone came out in 2007. This planted the seeds for 24/7 connectivity and ultimately lead to the internet being designed around smartphones as opposed to desktop users.

4) Digg started blowing up in popularity in 2007 which created the updoot/downdoot "hivemind" culture that Reddit (it's spiritual successor) would weaponize.

5) The "2008 recession" technically started in late 2007. Several companies did hiring freezes that year, getting a job became more difficult, and the economic optimism of the mid 2000s evaporated.

I wouldn't pick 2008 because of the recession nor any year past that because the damage had already been done.

2006 was near the end of the "old internet" but it also had the benefit of having high speed internet and youtube. If you're under the age of 35, you probably don't appreciate how revolutionary youtube was. Prior to youtube, video content on the internet was scarce and scattered. You had to really look for them and download them. Then youtube came along and it was a site where you could upload videos about absolutely anything, for free, and you could watch them without having to download them. Back then there was no monetization for youtube. People made channels and just posted videos about stuff they liked and genuinely cared about. Monetization and the rise of "e-celebrity" culture ruined all that.

And that brings me to my next point. Back in 2006, people posted on the internet because they wanted to express themselves, wanted to discuss something they genuinely cared about, or wanted to connect with others. The rise of social media changed all that. Now most people just want to craft a reputation for themselves, farm engagement, virtue signal, or push an agenda of some sort.

2006 was about the last year where "the internet" and "real life" were two truly completely separate things. What happened on the internet didn't matter in real life whatsoever. But the late 2000s is when I started noticing the internet slowly creeping into real life, especially youth culture. 2007 is when I first started hearing internet lingo in real life. I'd hear people use internet memes and references like "epic win/fail" and "needs more cowbell" in real life from time to time. It didn't bother me at all back then, in fact I thought it was funny, but in hindsight I realize that the internet merging with real life ironically ended up ruining both the internet and real life.

Then there was forum culture. Back in 2006, small, independently hosted forums (like this one) were where most discussion took place. Every forum had it's own culture and you were expected to assimilate to that culture. Outsiders who came in and tried to change the culture (or just refused to assimilate) were considered the bad guys, but now it's reversed and "gatekeeping" is now a word that has an almost universal negative connotation.

People were a lot more open and sociable on the internet back in the day. These days everyone is very closed off and guarded. Gotta be careful about what you share out of fear of getting doxxed. Also everyone is paranoid about seeming "cringe" which led to the rise of "ironybros" and nonchalantfags. Not to mention "leaking DMs" is really popular these days, so everyone is very careful about what they share with others. Better not be too personal or vulnerable or share anything that might be controversial or embarrassing.

Not only that, but these days apparently sending someone you don't know a DM is considered "weird" and "creepy". If you DM someone these days you need to have a good reason to. But back on the old internet these barriers didn't exist. A lot of the online friends I made back in the day were from either me randomly messaging them, or them randomly messaging me because I posted my MSN/YiM/AIM on a forum or in a guestbook. Speaking of which, 2006 was around the last year where it was common for people to make their own website in simple HTML or on platforms like angelfire/maxpages/geocities. This gave you so much more freedom, especially in terms of customization, that just doesn't exist on the centralized web.

And it's not just the internet that was better, it was real life too. People were generally more friendly and extroverted. "Third places" were still common. 2006 was sort of the tail end of mall and arcade culture. Arcades had technically been dying for a long time, but there was still an active arcade scene if you were into fighting games or DDR/PIU. By the late 2000s, arcades were becoming ghost towns, and so were malls. Online shopping and online gaming made these things "obsolete", but the rise of these things and the deaths of the third places like malls and arcades are a large reason why people are so unsocial, terminally online, hyper-introverted, isolated, and atomized today.

Merging the internet and real life was like putting your beverage, main course and dessert into a blender. Two things that were great on their own were ruined when combined.

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Are you still in touch with your internet friends?

I have dmed some people on .is and I now have some inkwell friends that I chat with daily. Lifefuel!
 
And of course you just HAD to post this immediately after I ranted about how much I hate being a zoomer. A truth nuke as always from you.

And also, we can't go back to that area. We've moved too far forward. I will never forgive normgroids for what they did. They are genuinely evil. They might not realise it, they might not even act like it, but they are.
 
I agree. 2006, 2007 are still nostalgic to me. From 2008 everything went to shit with the recession
 
well reasoned
 
Zoomer here
never got to experience this
 
I will read this after I am done shopping. Thanks, man.
 
Interesting read
 
brutal I missed out being a babycel
 
Yes, social media was around in 2006, like myspace and friendster (and facebook existed then but it was only for college students) 2007 was the year social media really blew up.
06 - 09 was my myspace era, would spend all day on that site

i had multiple accounts with over 100,000 "friends" and one with over 300,000. making custom profile layouts / friend adder sites was a lot of fun. found a lot of great music on there too

2006 was a kinda rough year in my life. the transition from my pre-internet early teens to my online later teens. That whole era from 06-13 was basically both the best and worst times of my life. A lot of wild swings. I didn't really handle the transition from being a kid to being an adult very well. Life has been a lot more flat and boring since then, for better or worse.

Not only that, but these days apparently sending someone you don't know a DM is considered "weird" and "creepy". If you DM someone these days you need to have a good reason to. But back on the old internet these barriers didn't exist. A lot of the online friends I made back in the day were from either me randomly messaging them, or them randomly messaging me because I posted my MSN/YiM/AIM on a forum or in a guestbook. Speaking of which, 2006 was around the last year where it was common for people to make their own website in simple HTML or on platforms like angelfire/maxpages/geocities. This gave you so much more freedom, especially in terms of customization, that just doesn't exist on the centralized web.
The good ole days. Things felt a lot freer back then. Used to talk to tons and tons of people online
 
And of course you just HAD to post this immediately after I ranted about how much I hate being a zoomer. A truth nuke as always from you.

And also, we can't go back to that area. We've moved too far forward. I will never forgive normgroids for what they did. They are genuinely evil. They might not realise it, they might not even act like it, but they are.
There's a reason that the people here tend to only really be here and no where else. I am of the opinion that we're quite literally different people and the modern landscape of social media just doesn't really merge well with us on an inherent level. Therefore, we navigate towards these more antiquated forms of social media—forums like .is, for instance.

I tried to use Twitter for a time, but I really couldn't handle it and just ended up leaving eventually. The amount of stuff that goes on is absolutely mind-numbing, and you don't even have the luxury of being able to type out more than two and a half sentences in every reply and post. Even if you DO have the capacity to do so, nobody will end up reading it because of how destroyed everyone's attention span is.

Ah, well, as you said, it's already too late to go back. This is the era we're in and the best we can do is adapt and make use of what little we're afforded.
 
I've gone out of my way to actually find more forums on specific topics since I've come to prefer this style of communication far more than other kinds. But, to be honest, modern-day forums are usually all ran by absolute morons who feel the need to hyper-compartmentalize their forum into dozens of different topics and thus dividing up the already limited user base into even smaller portions, and thus making the forum look immensely dead.
 
I agree 100%, but 2007 and 2008 was still pretty good. After that everything went to shit.
 
Based high iq post
 
I agree 100%, but 2007 and 2008 was still pretty good. After that everything went to shit.
I would say for me i was somewhat happy till 2013 and last time my life was well sorted it was 2016
 
1966 was the last truly great year
 
I've gone out of my way to actually find more forums on specific topics since I've come to prefer this style of communication far more than other kinds. But, to be honest, modern-day forums are usually all ran by absolute morons who feel the need to hyper-compartmentalize their forum into dozens of different topics and thus dividing up the already limited user base into even smaller portions, and thus making the forum look immensely dead.
This is why I don't want to have too many subsections on this forum

You put it into words better than I could have, been thinking about it that way for a while tbh
 
4) Digg started blowing up in popularity in 2007 which created the updoot/downdoot "hivemind" culture that Reddit (it's spiritual successor) would weaponize.

The internet doesn't bring out the best in people.

Personally I hate the spray and walk away vitriol of Facebook, more than the transparently updoot-seeking pack rape culture of reddit.

Facebook has more or less replaced the village square as the no.1 place where communities will discuss what's going on.

In real life you have to disagree with people in ways that won't cause problems tomorrow when you're working together, or serving one another as customers, or queueing together at the checkout. But on Facebook, you can just spray people with the most outrageous abuse, then block and walk away.

After almost 20 years of that, society in general (and politics in particular) is MUCH ruder and more polarized than it used to be. Everyone who disagrees with me is an EVIL NAZI and I HATE THEM. People don't know how to disagree any more, everything is a flame war that I need to win. It's not making the world a better place.

People have an unprecedented access to information, and an unprecedented ability to have an online voice, and they are using it to be cunts. Utter utter cunts. It feels like a massive missed opportunity for humanity.
 
I genuinely wish I was born earlier to really enjoy those times.
 
You can add Cho and the Virginia Tech massacre to another thing that made 2007 a change year. Before that, no one really feared being shot randomly, it was pretty much assumed that only happened to blacks.
 
depends where you live I guess
2007 was when "social media" really began taking off.
still 2007 or even 2010 "social media" is uncomparable to 2026 social media
The iphone came out in 2007
iphone adoption was reasonably slow in eastern europe, most people, even youths even in 2009, 2010 still had dumb or semi dumb (nokia) phones
Monetization and the rise of "e-celebrity" culture ruined all that.
well you can't deny that content in general is much more diverse and useful now. there are guides on basically everything. is there normie slop too? sure
Speaking of which, 2006 was around the last year where it was common for people to make their own website in simple HTML or on platforms like angelfire/maxpages/geocities. This gave you so much more freedom, especially in terms of customization, that just doesn't exist on the centralized web.
people eventually just realized that it's cheaper, simpler and cleaner in most cases to just use an established platform for this
Tagging people who voted for this thread:
that's crazy, where do you vote for threads
 
2006 was about the last year where "the internet" and "real life" were two truly completely separate things. What happened on the internet didn't matter in real life whatsoever. But the late 2000s is when I started noticing the internet slowly creeping into real life, especially youth culture. 2007 is when I first started hearing internet lingo in real life. I'd hear people use internet memes and references like "epic win/fail" and "needs more cowbell" in real life from time to time. It didn't bother me at all back then, in fact I thought it was funny, but in hindsight I realize that the internet merging with real life ironically ended up ruining both the internet and real life.
Something similar happened in Korea as well.

In Korea, there's a website called DCinside, which is basically a mix of 4chan's culture and Reddit's system. It's the largest online community in Korea. Up until the late 2000s, it was seen as a place for nerds, not normies. users saw the internet and real life as completely separate, and they believed they had a unique identity distinct from normies.

They also saw the internet as a kind of sewer, full of insults and hatred, where people couldn't fit into mainstream society gathered. But that's why they thought the internet was special and valuable. It was a place where you could say things you couldn't say in real life.

The problem is that normies gradually started using DCinside in the 2010s, and by the mid 2010s, it had become completely mainstream. And then DCinside's culture spread into the real world. Because of that, hostility between different groups intensified. Things like the gender war in Korea are probably partly influenced by DCinside.

Around 2015, if someone brought up a controversial topic online, people would mock them by saying, "The internet isn't real. Go touch grass". But now, people actually make fun of those who say the internet isn't real.
 
This post explains very well why I hate to be 20 years old. I got on the internet when I was 10 and it was already rotten, but compared to now, it was much more bearable. Forums still somewhat existed, at least. But imo the internet died when the iPhone was released, when Facebook was opened up to the public, and when PCs and Internet connections began to become massified. Women, normies, and ideologues have ruined everything good that there was, and I haven't even seen the most of it; in the eyes of a 35+ year old wizard it must be horrifying and ropefuel.
 
I have to admit, this was very insightful and I have to also admit that I did not even notice it like you.

I still remember the old internet though and you are correct, it was mainly designed with desktop computers and mouse & keyboard usage in mind.

We only notice how good things were once we lose them.

I also still remember being one of those who used to run his own website. A simple HTML + CSS website.

Best time.

You know, I just might do it again.
 
i was a babycel in 2006
 
in the eyes of a 35+ year old wizard it must be horrifying and ropefuel
as an oldcel, you eventually accept that everything is shit and will continue to get worse and there's not much reason to lose sleep over it :feelskek:
 
Nostalgic oldcel cope tbh...people used to bully irl more before the internet took off. They'd just call you a retarded fat foreveralone virgin in your face instead of via dms
 
as an oldcel, you eventually accept that everything is shit and will continue to get worse and there's not much reason to lose sleep over it :feelskek:
something something entropy, I agree but at the same time, it must suck to witness it with your own eyes.
 
Why 2006? Well first I'll explain why I didn't pick 2007.

1) 2007 was when "social media" really began taking off. Facebook opened up to the general public, twitter started blowing up in popularity and Tumblr was created this year. Yes, social media was around in 2006, like myspace and friendster (and facebook existed then but it was only for college students) 2007 was the year social media really blew up.

2) 2007 was also the year 4chan slowly started to decline in quality. 4chan started getting media coverage like the Fox News piece about it being an "internet hate machine" and 2007 was the year "project chanology" started. Both of these things brought in newfags that slowly changed the vibe. 4chan was still fun in 2007, but it wasn't the same as 2006.

3) The iphone came out in 2007. This planted the seeds for 24/7 connectivity and ultimately lead to the internet being designed around smartphones as opposed to desktop users.

4) Digg started blowing up in popularity in 2007 which created the updoot/downdoot "hivemind" culture that Reddit (it's spiritual successor) would weaponize.

5) The "2008 recession" technically started in late 2007. Several companies did hiring freezes that year, getting a job became more difficult, and the economic optimism of the mid 2000s evaporated.

I wouldn't pick 2008 because of the recession nor any year past that because the damage had already been done.

2006 was near the end of the "old internet" but it also had the benefit of having high speed internet and youtube. If you're under the age of 35, you probably don't appreciate how revolutionary youtube was. Prior to youtube, video content on the internet was scarce and scattered. You had to really look for them and download them. Then youtube came along and it was a site where you could upload videos about absolutely anything, for free, and you could watch them without having to download them. Back then there was no monetization for youtube. People made channels and just posted videos about stuff they liked and genuinely cared about. Monetization and the rise of "e-celebrity" culture ruined all that.

And that brings me to my next point. Back in 2006, people posted on the internet because they wanted to express themselves, wanted to discuss something they genuinely cared about, or wanted to connect with others. The rise of social media changed all that. Now most people just want to craft a reputation for themselves, farm engagement, virtue signal, or push an agenda of some sort.

2006 was about the last year where "the internet" and "real life" were two truly completely separate things. What happened on the internet didn't matter in real life whatsoever. But the late 2000s is when I started noticing the internet slowly creeping into real life, especially youth culture. 2007 is when I first started hearing internet lingo in real life. I'd hear people use internet memes and references like "epic win/fail" and "needs more cowbell" in real life from time to time. It didn't bother me at all back then, in fact I thought it was funny, but in hindsight I realize that the internet merging with real life ironically ended up ruining both the internet and real life.

Then there was forum culture. Back in 2006, small, independently hosted forums (like this one) were where most discussion took place. Every forum had it's own culture and you were expected to assimilate to that culture. Outsiders who came in and tried to change the culture (or just refused to assimilate) were considered the bad guys, but now it's reversed and "gatekeeping" is now a word that has an almost universal negative connotation.

People were a lot more open and sociable on the internet back in the day. These days everyone is very closed off and guarded. Gotta be careful about what you share out of fear of getting doxxed. Also everyone is paranoid about seeming "cringe" which led to the rise of "ironybros" and nonchalantfags. Not to mention "leaking DMs" is really popular these days, so everyone is very careful about what they share with others. Better not be too personal or vulnerable or share anything that might be controversial or embarrassing.

Not only that, but these days apparently sending someone you don't know a DM is considered "weird" and "creepy". If you DM someone these days you need to have a good reason to. But back on the old internet these barriers didn't exist. A lot of the online friends I made back in the day were from either me randomly messaging them, or them randomly messaging me because I posted my MSN/YiM/AIM on a forum or in a guestbook. Speaking of which, 2006 was around the last year where it was common for people to make their own website in simple HTML or on platforms like angelfire/maxpages/geocities. This gave you so much more freedom, especially in terms of customization, that just doesn't exist on the centralized web.

And it's not just the internet that was better, it was real life too. People were generally more friendly and extroverted. "Third places" were still common. 2006 was sort of the tail end of mall and arcade culture. Arcades had technically been dying for a long time, but there was still an active arcade scene if you were into fighting games or DDR/PIU. By the late 2000s, arcades were becoming ghost towns, and so were malls. Online shopping and online gaming made these things "obsolete", but the rise of these things and the deaths of the third places like malls and arcades are a large reason why people are so unsocial, terminally online, hyper-introverted, isolated, and atomized today.

Merging the internet and real life was like putting your beverage, main course and dessert into a blender. Two things that were great on their own were ruined when combined.

Tagging people who voted for this thread:

@TheSecondComing @proudweeb @sulpuda @VersoffenerAssi @Steiner_Atlas @TooSomething @Mr Black @currycell900 @Mr.Breb @Geno @DCI Gene Hunt @goyim next door @AtlasVmad @Dean_Benoit_93 @St3v3Cel
It kind of pisses me off that there hasn't been a real recession (in America at least) since 2008-09. Covid doesn't count since that was a forced "recession" when the world decided to shut down half the economy overnight stupidly, it was also the shortest "recession" in history by far (only lasted 3 months March-May 2020 officially).

Nothing ever happens.
 
Not only that, but these days apparently sending someone you don't know a DM is considered "weird" and "creepy". If you DM someone these days you need to have a good reason to. But back on the old internet these barriers didn't exist. A lot of the online friends I made back in the day were from either me randomly messaging them, or them randomly messaging me because I posted my MSN/YiM/AIM on a forum or in a guestbook. Speaking of which, 2006 was around the last year where it was common for people to make their own website in simple HTML or on platforms like angelfire/maxpages/geocities. This gave you so much more freedom, especially in terms of customization, that just doesn't exist on the centralized web.
It's always been impossible for me to make "internet friends" too. I don't even know what you mean by Internet friends. It was easier for me to make IRL friends than Internet friends (and I haven't had an IRL friend in 27 years).

Also I don't remember arcades being a thing at all in America in 2006 (other than DDR being somewhat popular). To me arcades were dead by the late 90s, but I'm over 40.
 
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After almost 20 years of that, society in general (and politics in particular) is MUCH ruder and more polarized than it used to be.
Is it? To me, society was ruder and meaner back in the late 90s than it is today, but I'm over 40. Maybe it's just that people have always treated me like shit regardless of the historical era.
 
This post explains very well why I hate to be 20 years old. I got on the internet when I was 10 and it was already rotten, but compared to now, it was much more bearable. Forums still somewhat existed, at least. But imo the internet died when the iPhone was released, when Facebook was opened up to the public, and when PCs and Internet connections began to become massified. Women, normies, and ideologues have ruined everything good that there was, and I haven't even seen the most of it; in the eyes of a 35+ year old wizard it must be horrifying and ropefuel.
I'm over 40, been online since 1996. The Internet had its good aspects back in the 2000s, but I remember people on forums back then being BIGGER assholes than nowadays. The incels.is forum is by far the kindest and gentlest Internet forum I've ever been on, and I've been on many since the late 90s.

Also Youtube changed things in a big, positive way on the Internet. Even in 2006 Youtube was really cool even though the videos were really crappy quality, limited to 10 minutes long, and like 240p. OP is correct that it was really hard to find videos on the Internet before Youtube...there were just random, scattered "video sites" like collegehumor.com and file sharing platforms, and if you found a video it was crap picture quality. I'll take today's Internet with billions of Youtube videos and 4K quality over 2006 or 1999.
 
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as an oldcel, you eventually accept that everything is shit and will continue to get worse and there's not much reason to lose sleep over it :feelskek:
Your username is why I don't rope. Planning to watch Haley's Comet return with a purchased hole. :feelswhere: Kind of suifuel that I need other people to have to mate and create her though, feels cucked.
 
Another point about 2006 is that we had lads mags back then. Need to bring back FHM, Zoo and Nuts!
 
Nostalgic oldcel cope tbh...people used to bully irl more before the internet took off. They'd just call you a retarded fat foreveralone virgin in your face instead of via dms
Correct.
 
Yeah another bad thing that happens to me proven: I was just a child back in 2006 when it was the best time so I couldn't experience shitloads of good things.
 
Really good post. I have felt this way since the Internet became ubiquitous in our society once smartphones were introduced/popularized. The consequences this has had from a sociological perspective is innumerable to the point of being able to write a thesis about it.

On a related note, I have noticed that zoomers (or at least certain subcultures within this demographic) have been attempting to revive sites/services they never had a chance to utilize (spacehey, neocities, escargot, etc.). I think this speaks volumes to how impactful/fun the "golden age" of the Internet was prior to social media becoming more siloed (i.e. Discord servers that you cannot even view unless you join the community) and "big tech" limiting users' creative expression in favor of (what they perceive to be) ease of use.

It's also more difficult to mingle with strangers for fun nowadays since Discord doesn't have a "chat roulette" option that instant messengers like ICQ had, and it's more difficult to seek out likeminded individuals when everyone's digital profile looks and feels the same.
 
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I'm over 40, been online since 1996. The Internet had its good aspects back in the 2000s, but I remember people on forums back then being BIGGER assholes than nowadays. The incels.is forum is by far the kindest and gentlest Internet forum I've ever been on, and I've been on many since the late 90s.

Also Youtube changed things in a big, positive way on the Internet. Even in 2006 Youtube was really cool even though the videos were really crappy quality, limited to 10 minutes long, and like 240p. OP is correct that it was really hard to find videos on the Internet before Youtube...there were just random, scattered "video sites" like collegehumor.com and file sharing platforms, and if you found a video it was crap picture quality. I'll take today's Internet with billions of Youtube videos and 4K quality over 2006 or 1999.
honestly I would trade today's internet for my dopamine circuitry to return to the way they were before...
I hear what you say, personally the most fun times I had were on teamspeak with friends I met in game or forums. I firmly believe we lost the internet's freedom around the time Aaron Swartz killed himself. I'd take a free internet over anything else personally.
 
well you can't deny that content in general is much more diverse and useful now. there are guides on basically everything. is there normie slop too? sure
Well said, this is why I prefer the internet of today. The information and high quality tools of today are more valuable to me than tightknit communities. There is a value to every single person on Earth now being on the internet, even if it did bring in the dregs of the earth as well. It is now possible to reach out to and learn from experts and professionals in fields directly, which means that what was once industry and trade secrets is now largely freely available on the internet. The 2020s have been a hobbyist's dream so far.
I'm over 40, been online since 1996. The Internet had its good aspects back in the 2000s, but I remember people on forums back then being BIGGER assholes than nowadays. The incels.is forum is by far the kindest and gentlest Internet forum I've ever been on, and I've been on many since the late 90s.
Is it? To me, society was ruder and meaner back in the late 90s than it is today, but I'm over 40. Maybe it's just that people have always treated me like shit regardless of the historical era.
I am a Zoomer but this is the impression I get as well. The world has gotten friendlier in many respects.
It's always been impossible for me to make "internet friends" too. I don't even know what you mean by Internet friends. It was easier for me to make IRL friends than Internet friends (and I haven't had an IRL friend in 27 years).
It has always baffled me how people manage to make online friends. I never ever managed to do that even when I tried to. Thankfully I eventually figured out how to live without friends.
 
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