Who is the ruling estate in Communism?

[GobidCrusader]

From my understanding, political systems can be categorized by the relationships between the 4 estates; warriors, clergymen, merchants, and peasants. For example, monarchism is rule by a warrior elite with support from the clergy, whereas liberal democracy is the overthrow of the two by the mercantile third estate with the support of the peasant rabble. Perhaps you could say that the media is the liberal counterpart of clergymen.

If so, who was the ruling class in Communist states?
It can't be the peasants because the "democracy" or the "dictatorship of the proletariat" developed into an oligarchy by party members.
And it can't be the merchants either although obviously communism was and is a useful tool for them and are indeed communist in a “social” sense.
IMO it was a theocracy run by a Marxist clergy, but I would appreciate your answers and feedback, especially recommendations of sources like books, thanks.

 

[fatass30000]

there’s no ruling class

 

[lazy_gamer_423]

the jews

 

[RandomGuy]

Yakov Sverdlov​

 

[Castaway]

From my understanding, political systems can be categorized by the relationships between the 4 estates; warriors, clergymen, merchants, and peasants. For example, monarchism is rule by a warrior elite with support from the clergy, whereas liberal democracy is the overthrow of the two by the mercantile third estate with the support of the peasant rabble. Perhaps you could say that the media is the liberal counterpart of clergymen.

If so, who was the ruling class in Communist states?
It can't be the peasants because the "democracy" or the "dictatorship of the proletariat" developed into an oligarchy by party members.
And it can't be the merchants either although obviously communism was and is a useful tool for them and are indeed communist in a “social” sense.
IMO it was a theocracy run by a Marxist clergy, but I would appreciate your answers and feedback, especially recommendations of sources like books, thanks.

The bureaucrats and the intelligentsia are the ruling caste, in Soviet style Communism at least

 

[AutistSupremacist]

The bureaucrats and the intelligentsia are the ruling caste, in Soviet style Communism at least

 

[SoycuckGodOfReddit]

same as in every other country

the jews

talking about class is just a distraction to shield the jews from scrutiny

 

[stalkerKiller]

Well.... I can't speak about this topic from an objective perspective, however I can tell you what the ruling class was like during socialist Romania. Oh and the pic is Tovarășul Ceaușescu (the linguistical joke about his face on a mug is that his nickname was Ceașcă mug in romanian), basically the dictatorial leader or Romania.

So... You had the supreme party leader which was Ceaușescu and then you had a whole slew of committees, beaurocrats, army men, representatives of the central power structure etc.
Basically they were all extremely nepotistic because if they got caught with corrupt dealings their punishments were pretty harsh. So the only people they could trust were their nieces, nephews, brothers, uncles etc. anyone they had a familiar tie with. So really there were three social tiers:

• High ranking party members
• Relatives of said high ranking party members
• Normal people
• 

 

[Meneldil]

It seems to me that the actual ruling groups of any given Communist country are (or were) the police, especially the state security or secret police, and the Party nomenclature. They're related but are not the same.

 

[weaselbomber]

The Nomenklatura

 

[LeFrenchCel]

there’s no ruling class

 

[Anarcho Nihilist]

Under communism, the ruling class is the party nomenclature, the higher your rank, the more power you have - from the secretary of the Communist party of some urban area to the general secretary of the party. The party nomenclature is the new nobility, if in the USSR your father was a high-class official of the party, then you received scarce food in the queue, thanks to your connections you did not need to stand in line to buy sausage or toilet paper. Your father could also solve your problems for you due to his influence in the party - the children of the party elite in the USSR were called the golden youth.

 

[WacoGoesDown]

the politburo
aka fatass oligarchs with a fancy title

 

[decafincel]

the jews

 

[joocel52]

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