Fav music genre, lmk what your fav bands are or any recs.
My favs r Julia..., yaamc, and OLTH
My favs r Julia..., yaamc, and OLTH
I do.
Not that much into it but Love Lost but Not Forgotten and Orchid are good.
Not a lot, but I used to listen to Orchid.
Foreground Eclipse, Imperial Circus Dead Decadence, Undead Corporation (the black metal tracks like Malicious Maggots). Japanese bands. Crazy good. Also Shinigiwa Satellite but you won't find it anywhere except soulseek probably.
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yo thanks mane ive never heard of any of these ill check them out
You have great fucking taste man. Love Foreground Eclipse and especially Undead Corp.
1st is post-hardcore with screamo, 2nd is symphonic-death metal with screamo, 3rd does a bit of everything lol depends on the album, examples of screamo songs are Frozen and Malicious Maggots but they also do pure symphonic/gothic like Megalomania. 4th is post-hardcore and metal.
What Japanese bands.
I'm happy that we have a gigaweeb like you on this site. I do love the nips, but I wish I could love them as much as people like you do.
i also love some hardcore. My fav band of all time of any genre is 7 angels 7 plagues. its fye
the ones I listed. I see now that my punctuation was shit on that post, my bad.
also @DriveLikeNigger can supply some screamo I reckon
thank you brocels but I wish I had a more ample knowledge of music, unfortunately I know nothing about theory or instrument techniques or writing and rot all day instead of learning. Still need to listen to @DriveLikeNigger 's recommendations for instance, what no oxytocin does to a motherfucker.
favorite FGE song?
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holy underrated pick man, I like it but my fav is The Distant Journey to You
I can't speak about it anymore due to privacy reasons but learning about playing/creating music is less daunting than you'd think. It is all great fun too, the learning never ends, and that is what's good about it.
Besides Senses Fail and A Skylit Drive, no not really
I used to try to do basic orchestrations of my favorite OSTs from anime and such on musescore but tbh they were shit and I learnt very little. I still do not know how to cultivate hobbies, I think my brain might have ADHD or something but (((APA))) kikes would want me to take pills if I "tested" positive for it
People probably think I'm retarded for treating this video as gospel when it comes to creating music, but I think it summarises how it works exceptionally well:
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMDr_luEqS8
For the vast majority of musicians the above is quite simply how it works, to a great degree at least. Only a select few can create music using only piano rolls or scores, and that goes for musicians who are adept at various instruments too. My advice here is not to stray away from things like music theory and sound science because that stuff is sick and super useful too, but the above mindset will get you very far. That video explains the most important principle in all of music, namely that "if it sounds good, it is good". I'm sure that you will find that a surprising amount of your favourite musicians have little more knowledge (or a traditional understand of music theory, that is) than what that above video shows. It is also especially important to remember that people are still humans at the end of the day and not some kind gods, like the late Terry notes in that video.
Try to get a hold of some instrument you could play, if you have no idea what you would want to play a MIDI keyboard would be an excellent place to start. A a simple two octave keyboard would be more than enough for a beginner, if that would be too much to spend you could even use your normal computer keyboard as a MIDI keyboard. You wouldn't have velocity sensitive keys if you did it that way, but most DAWs have that function. Another option would of course to play software instruments on a touchscreen device, using free apps like BandLab or GarageBand.
Just mess about with those and see what happens, and remember to record what you're doing. Most of what you will be able to come up with won't be that good, but I'm sure that you will be able to come up with some things you do like that way. If that isn't too fun in the beginning you should try to learn to play some songs/tunes you like, because that will make it easier to improvise things you like hearing. There is a caveat to this though: trying to learn to play or recreate somebody else's music exactly like the original is a fool's errand, so don't beat yourself up over it if it is difficult. Studying anyone's music (or even your own music eventually) is yet another infinite process, there is always more to learn, and that is again one of the wonderful things about music. Therefore you shouldn't feel the need to perfectly master other people's music, as fun and interesting as that can be.
In my opinion creating your own music is the most fun because that is where you get to set all the rules, and the main reason for studying other people's music should be to inform that. Interpreting people other people's music in your own way is also another option, even if that's because you don't yet have the chops to play the original exactly like it is. Anyways, once you have some of your favourite songs more or less under your fingers you can go on to learn about what things like notes are, then scales and chords, eventually followed by exciting stuff like modes, rhythm, song structure, instruments and audio in general.
I will also say that "muh rote practice and shieet" is vastly overrated, and it is a trap that you can fall into. In my experience you don't need much of the rote, Whiplash-esque practice "tuff" normies rave about all the time at all. Study is forever though, and that might be considered practice depending on how you look at it. What I am saying is basically that you simply just do whatever it is you need to do in order to be able to achieve whatever it is you want to achieve. Some rote practice and memorisation will of course be a part of that every now and then, just don't treat it as a religion or something you have to do. Once you get comfortable with doing anything really I imagine that a simple warm-up will be able to get you where you need to be anyways (basically playing anything you want, or something you are comfortable with, for example).
As for hobbies in general you kind of have to have the right neurodivergence for it. Most incels and truecels do not have a natural givenness for anything, the fact that they were able to get anywhere with a hobby is purely because they can or could have a ton of fun with whatever they were doing even when they sucked at it, and when I say suck I mean genuinely sucked at it (or even still sucks at it). Part of being able to be happy with it comes down to being absolutely stoked about the things you can do, even if that is very few things. You absolutely need to be able to have that kind of appreciation for the things you can do, and not curse yourself for the things you can't, even if those are things you would want to be able to do as well.
This is going to sound like boomer-tier nonsense bluepill advice because it is but you can't rush things either, and you do actually naturally get better at things over time (even if it might seem that you did nothing in order to improve). Part of sticking to it also comes down to appreciating a wide assortment of music, and how there are a ton of things which are unique and worth hearing, including whatever your own abilities are able to do. This might be my most boomer-tier advice of all, but I also believe that there is more for people without at natural givenness in something to gain in an interest than there is for talented people. Because you don't immediately get something you might get to learn more about it than someone with a natural givenness for it would, since you would need to and the talented person wouldn't, for example.
You basically have to count whatever playing toolkit you are able to develop as a blessing, and the fact that you have reason to spend a lot of time learning about music as a blessing too (or whatever it is you're learning). Even having as little as an interest in anything at all should be considered a blessing really, because a scary amount of people in life don't seem to have even that much. We incels especially need to consider never-ending copes like these treasures in our lives, since there usually isn't much else going on in our lives.
...All of that is assuming that you would face some difficulty with it if you were to pick it up again though. For all I know you could be a genius who just haven't gotten his due with music yet. I know I didn't give you too much practical information, because unfortunately I have to hold back on that stuff, but hopefully some of my ramblings here could prove useful to you. Things like music are things only a few people in the world truly understand and appreciate so I'm always happy to see people who seem to be genuine fans of it. For normies things like music are just a means to an end for gathering resources, maximising social status and lust for sex, as is anything they do.
TL;DR: My ramblings on how to keep a good mindset when it comes to things like creating music and hobbies. Read at your own will.
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First of all thank you very much for taking the time out to write all this advice, must've taken a while;
Second what Terry said I think is true, the "immortals" are simply mortals that had luck and/or practiced a lot, not sure about the monkey thing with rhythm because when it comes to polyrhythm and counterpoints and harmony you kinda need to have a good hear for those and know what works and what doesn't.
I don't think incels necessarily do not have a talent whatsoever.
I was thinking of buying a MIDI keyboard yes, however I tend to overthink about things and never decide upon doing anything, so I haven't bought it yet because I always think that with uni and me trying to cultivate the other hobbies I wouldn't have the time to properly practice and/or do shit on my own.
Another thing is I have noticed that time and time again, whenever I go back to one of my hobbies, I do it for a few days then I just stop touching it at all, sometimes for months; beginning books/manga and stopping midway to never finish them. Happened so many times and it's very fucking frustrating because I think I like activities I claim to be my hobbies, but for some reason after a few days of cultivating them I can't seem to want to do it. I attribute it to the dopamine released by the "new thing" effect greatly diminishing, but I don't know for sure. The thing that seems to corroborate it is that over the years I've never had this problem with gaming or listening to music or porn, so I think it's really just a dopamine thing, so I actually have been wondering if my brain operates on some sort of ADHD or not. So it's a problem I find in every hobby of mine.
For instance I have about 100 books saved up on my PC but I never really get around to reading them, and some that I've started I've stopped reading them halfway through.
I think I have some sort of talent for understanding mathematics given how I seem to not struggle in undergrad level but at the same time, there is harder stuff out there. I see when studying for my exams that I can focus on studying for even 7-8 hours without eating or drinking no problem but when it comes to later repeating and memorizing things or doing exercises, I seem to have no drive.
Regarding music, I fucking despise people in general, but when it comes to music I become furious. Even though I don't have much understanding of the technical principles and the theory behind the songs I listen, I believe (humbly) that normies raped music until it became uninspired corporate trap beats slop. I've basically pivoted to just touhou doujin arrangements and I love listening to the more obscure groups' stuff. Also, osu! made it impossible for me to not follow the rhythm of a song kek.
Do excuse me if I happened to not have addressed all of what you've said.
There is a trial and error aspect to it. You usually have to wade through a bunch of garbage before you find something that works. Some people are for sure fully aware of what time signature and so on they're in at all times, but plenty of people rely more on "feel" and have to play something first and figure out what it was later. It can be good to be able to do both, really. Either way it will be pretty obvious when something sounds right or wrong to you. It also depends on your music taste, some people don't appreciate much dissonance at all meanwhile others love things like dissonance, for example.
If any of the musicians you like have done interviews make sure to check those out, because they usually have really valuable and relevant advice when it comes to things like this. Some of what traditional artist-types say can be a little hard to decipher though, but is usually well worth it to listen to what they have to say. It is usually far more specific and valuable than what you will get from most jagoff course-salesmen on YouTube at least.
I understand having several hobbies and interests and how that can be conflicting. In my opinion it is worth it though, I think the idea that everyone needs to be a specialist in life is a PsyOp. Not saying that you said this, but the idea that one can only become an expert at something in one field is absurd and even counterintuitive. I would argue that it's actually not possible to become the best at something by only dedicating yourself to that one thing, because most things in life are connected so having one interest can help your other interest, and often in ways you can't predict. It can be taken too far though of course, you do still have to prioritise what you like best in life to some degree.
I think Sturgeon's Law might apply here ("ninety percent of everything is crap"). Most things aren't that good anyways, so I imagine that you aren't missing out on too much. In my opinion engaging with things like stories can also take a lot of energy, since you have to suspend your sense of disbelief and so on. If there are non-fiction things you want to read that can be even more intense, since it can take a lot of time to understand someone's mindset so that you can understand what they're saying, and this is especially true for more complex topics like the ones most people like non-fiction for. It is of course wonderful to engage with a great story or an idea that expands your mind but I think those types of things are unfortunately quite few and far between. A lot of the time you can get more out of revisiting something you already enjoyed in the past. That's just my opinion though.
I am the same with music as well, I seek out stuff brand new to me far less often than what most other people seem to.
It's great that there are things you are good at. And there are indeed plenty of incels and truecels with talents. I don't think I'm one of those people personally though and many users here have complained about wanting to do something but lacking the talent, so that's why I wrote my reply like I did.
Yeah, good music might be one of the best things in the world, but bad music is like Vogon poetry and there is a ton of it.
No problem. I simply like talking about it so that's why I wrote a reply as long as I did.
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I only listen to blackmetal
I agree I agree. I don't have much to add tho sorry, other than studying maths makes it easier for me to understand linguistics.
When it comes to consuming stuff, partly sure. However I find that the books I have finished it is because I have binged them in max 3 days. I really do think I might just be wired differently and it's kinda frustrating.
Agreed.
I can't even begin reading non-fiction like philosophy and all because my brain refuses to pick up the books lol, I have even some physical books but idk. The thought of doing shit makes me anxious.
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