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When we see cases of incels, mostly the killers, it seems that many of them can represent the community. But there is always a "but" or some reason that exonerates them from being true incels.
Many communities goes looking for a model that represents them, this community is no exception. We have a few cases to create an image of ourselves, but sometimes is not as clear as it should be.
Jake Davison
He was a desperate 22-year-old who had misogynistic and homophobic views about society, enraged against his inability to get a partner. He felt alone against the world.
But he wasn't ugly, he had autism that made him have very complicated relationships with others. He supported Trump. He didn't have a very high ego, he recognized his place and considered himself a failure expressing all the problems he had and all the opportunities he missed, mostly he had hopeless thoughts.
Its finale took place on August 12, 2021. He killed his mother and father for giving him that life and 3 other people. Then he ended up committing suicide.
My conclusion
He was definitely quite clear with his thoughts, his words, and his protests about society. It is clear that what he did was really because he was an incel and not because of another external problem that ended up justifying him by being an incel. But it was also quite attractive, taking away from its credibility. People would think we're just like him, attractive but with mental issues.
Elliot Rodgers
(I think this is the best photo. The others seem too forced to make it look good, remember that everybody can look good in a photo. But in real life it's something else. This is the most probably face on how everyone else saw them)
Elliot, like Jake, was 22 years old when he ended his life. His complaints were almost the same, but his point of view changes a lot. He didn't feel alone against the world, he felt that the world made him feel only about purpose and that he deserved everything.
He was quite narcissistic, to the point where he didn't realize why he was lonely, never thought he was ugly or why his attemps never work it. Making it an almost non-incel because with those thoughts, if he had managed to date a girl he would probably laugh at us, that we would still being here.
He created his final chance, but sadly got drunk like an idiot. And he received one of the worst possible humiliations, then ended his life in the day of retribution in 2014 May 23, killing 6 people and injuring a few others. It all ended with him shooting himself
Conclusion?
He considered himself fabulous, the supreme knight. So it's a far from what an incel would be, which is admitting being in the group.
Alek Minassian
A 25-year-old man who had incel thoughts, being motivated by the actions of other incels. He decided to carry out a massacre on top of a pickup truck. He had autism spectrum disorder and was ugly.
Previously, he hadn't done anything strange, he just received special attention because of his disability. But he never hit or insulted anyone, which is why he may have been saving all of that to release in a manifestation of his pent-up hatred.
He hated chads and stacys and wrote messages aimed at the incel group, trying to motivate them.
Conclusion
Probably one of the closest to what a real incel would be, he didn't have a lot of money and he wasn't too beautiful either.
The whole point of this discussion thread
If you've read all this, it was probably because of the main title. And now I'd like to get down to the really important stuff. If you had to create the perfect incel, appearance, experiences (childhood, school, work), ideologies, ways of thinking/acting and how would be their solution to all this we have been seeing, if they would write a manifesto, give advice to other incels, etc. Tell me, what would you think he should be?
Many communities goes looking for a model that represents them, this community is no exception. We have a few cases to create an image of ourselves, but sometimes is not as clear as it should be.
Jake Davison
He was a desperate 22-year-old who had misogynistic and homophobic views about society, enraged against his inability to get a partner. He felt alone against the world.
But he wasn't ugly, he had autism that made him have very complicated relationships with others. He supported Trump. He didn't have a very high ego, he recognized his place and considered himself a failure expressing all the problems he had and all the opportunities he missed, mostly he had hopeless thoughts.
Its finale took place on August 12, 2021. He killed his mother and father for giving him that life and 3 other people. Then he ended up committing suicide.
My conclusion
He was definitely quite clear with his thoughts, his words, and his protests about society. It is clear that what he did was really because he was an incel and not because of another external problem that ended up justifying him by being an incel. But it was also quite attractive, taking away from its credibility. People would think we're just like him, attractive but with mental issues.
Elliot Rodgers
(I think this is the best photo. The others seem too forced to make it look good, remember that everybody can look good in a photo. But in real life it's something else. This is the most probably face on how everyone else saw them)
Elliot, like Jake, was 22 years old when he ended his life. His complaints were almost the same, but his point of view changes a lot. He didn't feel alone against the world, he felt that the world made him feel only about purpose and that he deserved everything.
He was quite narcissistic, to the point where he didn't realize why he was lonely, never thought he was ugly or why his attemps never work it. Making it an almost non-incel because with those thoughts, if he had managed to date a girl he would probably laugh at us, that we would still being here.
He created his final chance, but sadly got drunk like an idiot. And he received one of the worst possible humiliations, then ended his life in the day of retribution in 2014 May 23, killing 6 people and injuring a few others. It all ended with him shooting himself
Conclusion?
He considered himself fabulous, the supreme knight. So it's a far from what an incel would be, which is admitting being in the group.
Alek Minassian
A 25-year-old man who had incel thoughts, being motivated by the actions of other incels. He decided to carry out a massacre on top of a pickup truck. He had autism spectrum disorder and was ugly.
Previously, he hadn't done anything strange, he just received special attention because of his disability. But he never hit or insulted anyone, which is why he may have been saving all of that to release in a manifestation of his pent-up hatred.
He hated chads and stacys and wrote messages aimed at the incel group, trying to motivate them.
Conclusion
Probably one of the closest to what a real incel would be, he didn't have a lot of money and he wasn't too beautiful either.
The whole point of this discussion thread
If you've read all this, it was probably because of the main title. And now I'd like to get down to the really important stuff. If you had to create the perfect incel, appearance, experiences (childhood, school, work), ideologies, ways of thinking/acting and how would be their solution to all this we have been seeing, if they would write a manifesto, give advice to other incels, etc. Tell me, what would you think he should be?