Seriously. I really want to know.
Serious Where is the line drawn between an incel and a normie who just isn't getting laid?
there is none unless he chooses not to get laid
This.
The normie has social circles. The normie has friends that care about him. The normie's friends can help him get laid. Any normie that hasn't gotten laid by 20 is just choosing to be a virgin.
Effort/reward ratio in life. Looks.
how much they cope. i had a friend that was like a -10/10 is a virgin at 23, but would never associate with us because he believes in the confidence meme. he has tons of friends.
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if the person is not a sub4 white or sub7 ethnic(I am more lenient on ethnics because they have it worse than whites when it comes to the dating scene)
Dude, incels.is is not /r9k/. I am a normie irl, except for the single fact that I have a disgenic ugly face and girls avoid me like the devil runs away from the cross.
I think this is where my thought process landed me too. That pinned dating preferences by race study was eye-opening. Racial bias is legit real. Though I believe it can shift in your favor depending on where you go. Do you think that a sub4 on a purely physical scale can do anything to raise themselves to a 5+ level where red pill can become operative?
Isn't the lack of a social circle and friends addressable (at least in theory)? Unless you're a legit mentalcel with some debilitating condition that can't be resolved through therapy or medication.
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maybe if they are sub4 before they turn 21 they can looksmaxx by heightmaxxing but other than that, after 21, gymcel and fashionmaxx
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Volcel then, not incel.
Same. I can and do function pretty well in work and society in general. I don't have fear of public places or speaking to unfamiliar people...etc. I've been in a few relationships and was even married.
Can I get with a girl, sure. Is it easy...lol. It's the hardest fucking thing in the world to accomplish. The only way I got with my ex is through a mutual friend, and I had a nice sportscar and motorcycle at the time.
On my own my failure rate has been 100%. I've tried for the last 4 years or so with ZERO results. Yea...
No, you aren't an incel, you're probably just a mad boomer who can't attract young femoids like your "few relationships" anymore.
Not sure why you have a condescending attitude, but I don't try to date girls younger then 5 years my junior. Thanks for playing.
Dude, most men get around 8 sexual partners through their lifetime.
You were engaged in "a few relationships" and got married for some time. You surely is not a celibate and what it takes to a return is just to start reapproching.
There are certain types of men that women despise, and you aren't one of them.
GTFO normalscum
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A normie: Has friends to go out with & set them up on dates with other people, the availability is there due to connections. Does not have any physical impairment, does not have any psychological impairment, does not have any financial woes or dependants, average to above average in erotic/social & financial capital, has the freedom to come or go by or leave. etc...
Incel: Physically or Psychologically or both impaired, rarely has any opportunities to meet up with the opposite sex, does not have or has very few connections with others (through no fault of their own), does not have the chances to meet up with the opposite sex, is struggling with poverty or subsistence living through trying to better their own financial capital, has zero fuck all to limited Erotic Capital to go by, has little to fuck all social capital to go by, probably has dependants or is a dependant of some sorts. Has no freedom to come or go by or leave.
Hope that helps. Just my thoughts.
Incel: Physically or Psychologically or both impaired, rarely has any opportunities to meet up with the opposite sex, does not have or has very few connections with others (through no fault of their own), does not have the chances to meet up with the opposite sex, is struggling with poverty or subsistence living through trying to better their own financial capital, has zero fuck all to limited Erotic Capital to go by, has little to fuck all social capital to go by, probably has dependants or is a dependant of some sorts. Has no freedom to come or go by or leave.
Hope that helps. Just my thoughts.
Chronical medical condition starts at six months. That's a good orientation imo. If you can't get laid in that time you are in incel state.
Have you even seen a 7/10 ethnic? The reason they have it worse is because having very stereotypical ethnic facial features rank you lower on the looks scale by being objectively less attractive, but a universal 7/10 ethnic is attractive and has no trouble getting laid. Sub 4s however are repulsive to look at, there's no comparison.
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which would be those that have mainly euro features
Even if so, mogs whites below him.
@13k and @FACEandLMS are our resident experts on this
In the face.
Reminds me of that sponge bob episode where he thinks he’s ugly. Truly blackpilling.
Might get hate for this, but it's whether he wants to use that label or not.
YES. Thank you. Finally someone gets it. Or not even 'good looking', but low/mid tier normies who don't try, and give up way too soon.. then look for a way to externalize the culpability for their celibacy onto something (ANYTHING) that is not their own fault or responsibility.
I've been watching a lot of 'game' and 'pua' shit lately, trying to (you know) educate myself and figure out if there are any addressable holes in my looks game, or anything else I can do to improve my chances tbh. And frankly, A LOT of these dudes are not good looking at all. Old, chubby/fat, pretty short, balding, sunken dark eye circles, thoroughly average or below average facial features etc etc... yet somehow they've all managed to sleep with literally HUNDREDS of attractive women. Some of them 8-9 level Stacy's even. And what's more, all of these guys say that they were HORRIBLE with girls in high school and even college, and that's what made them want to learn and get better.
How can these 'Anyone who's not a Chad is and incel' ppl explain that? smh.
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