Old wives tales? Reddit? Therapists? Neil Strauss' The Game?
Bluepill dogma
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Just plausible deniability from the person whose saying it to you but never date you romantically.
PUA I think.
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When male virgins first became noticable. Norm-scum saw that they are shier than average then came up with the retarded idea that it was a cause rathet than an effect.
Yeah I get that, but why would normies have told them such a stupid thing in the first place? Who put that into their mind as "good advice to tell celibate low-status men"
Boomers.
Oh fuck, you're probably right but that would be a terrible indictment of mankind's intelligence.
Incredibly high IQ post
A few possibilities. Generally, such a conversation is between a person feeling defeated (the asker) and a person who finds themself in a sudden position of mentorship (the answerer). The asker is visibly down, often extruding the question in a mopey manner. The answerer, failing to conceive any legitimately useful response, capitalizes on this easy observation and arrives at the same conclusion everyone else has: "this [asker] is holding himself in low regard, his problem must obviously by his lack of confidence!" Que trope.
This. If you read serious "just be confident" posts online it is mostly mid-20 dudes who got laid once or twice now trying to act chad. At least this is how they appear from their writing style. Also saw this kind of behaviour IRL from such a guy.
Probably with modern liberalism (with liberalism in the international sense of the word, i.e. capitalism, free-market societies, etc.)
After all, "confidence" and TRP are basically the sexual version of the "American Dream":
The idea that "confidence" results in erotic and romantic success is the sexual version of the idea that "hard work" results in wealth and security.
It's based on the same individualism and the same just-world fallacy. They also have the same consequence for people who do NOT have economic/romantic success: they only have themselves to blame. And if everyone can make it, simply working hard and being confident, those who DON'T make it, must be morally ambiguous if not outright reprehensible. The poor man is not simply poor, there is something morally wrong with him, he is morally despise. Same with those who don't have success with women: there must be something MORALLY wrong with them or with their personality. They are probably creepy. With capitalist individualism came this idea that the poor are somehow morally tainted.
So those who have success had success because they've worked hard, were confident and had good personalities ... while the losers are lazy, creepy weirdos who basically deserve their misery.
After all, "confidence" and TRP are basically the sexual version of the "American Dream":
The idea that "confidence" results in erotic and romantic success is the sexual version of the idea that "hard work" results in wealth and security.
It's based on the same individualism and the same just-world fallacy. They also have the same consequence for people who do NOT have economic/romantic success: they only have themselves to blame. And if everyone can make it, simply working hard and being confident, those who DON'T make it, must be morally ambiguous if not outright reprehensible. The poor man is not simply poor, there is something morally wrong with him, he is morally despise. Same with those who don't have success with women: there must be something MORALLY wrong with them or with their personality. They are probably creepy. With capitalist individualism came this idea that the poor are somehow morally tainted.
So those who have success had success because they've worked hard, were confident and had good personalities ... while the losers are lazy, creepy weirdos who basically deserve their misery.
sry guys this man said it all. time to flee this thread cos he fuken got it right. kudos bro. u high iq
Personally I think it's an attempt to inject some fair world fallacy into sex. If courage is all it takes to get laid, then unsuccessful men are simply cowards who deserve their lot.
Obviously, most normies don't realize how patronizing, unfair and downright cruel they are by parroting the confidence meme. If they did, they would understand why so many incels hate them.
@Red Shambhala said it better than me.
Fortunately, humanity hasn't always been that stupid... Fatalism has a lot more history to show for it than "can-do-anything" mentality. In Catholic countries, there was a caste system until very recent times
Obviously, most normies don't realize how patronizing, unfair and downright cruel they are by parroting the confidence meme. If they did, they would understand why so many incels hate them.
@Red Shambhala said it better than me.
Fortunately, humanity hasn't always been that stupid... Fatalism has a lot more history to show for it than "can-do-anything" mentality. In Catholic countries, there was a caste system until very recent times
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Confidence is created through positive validation, therefore if you don't have it people will say that it is the confidence that caused people with confidence to be attractive as an easy way out, knowing that you will never have that confidence yourself because you won't receive positive validation so you won't be able to call them out on it and also because confidence is intangible. i.e. :-
Unattractive man - "Hey I thought you said it was about confidence? I am confident now but women still don't want me."
Dick head - "You weren't confident enough. Girls can sense that"
It's the equivalent of saying keep taking these sugar pills and your aids will get better.
Also even if it is about confidence doesn't that prove that girls are utter fucking cunts? I mean they are constantly feeling unconfident themselves but all insist on a confident man? So if a girl gets dumped by her boyfriend should all men avoid her like the plague because she isn't confident? Fuck off.
Unattractive man - "Hey I thought you said it was about confidence? I am confident now but women still don't want me."
Dick head - "You weren't confident enough. Girls can sense that"
It's the equivalent of saying keep taking these sugar pills and your aids will get better.
Also even if it is about confidence doesn't that prove that girls are utter fucking cunts? I mean they are constantly feeling unconfident themselves but all insist on a confident man? So if a girl gets dumped by her boyfriend should all men avoid her like the plague because she isn't confident? Fuck off.
PUAtards
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So this. Same with the job seeker/ job centre plus bastards telling you to "get on your bike"... and ride to Timbuktu to find a job.
The hypocrisy is astounding.
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Good but not as good as the person you mentioned. Sorry.
it's just the most generic advice that any retard can give so that they can convince themselves that they didn't get a girl because of their looks, but in fact their personality (which, as we know, is nearly completely irrelevant)
When dating was looksmatched it worked
I think it comes from Stacys who profess to like ‘a confident man’ when what they mean is a confident Chad is better than a shy one. It’s much in the same vein as Chads who say they want ‘a shy girl’ when what they often mean is they are more attracted to a Stacy who is shy than one who is loud or boisterous.
I think it got into the normie mindset because everyone seems incapable of admitting how important a factor looks are in the dating scene, so I’d imagine that upon hearing these statements from Stacy and Chad the normies chose to ignore (either selectively or subliminally, but certainly collectively) the obvious and latch onto another vacuous and inaccurate moral platitude that can be woven into the tapestry of lies that is the collective consciousness of man, the rose tinted narrative that humanity must buy into in order to convince himself he’s morally sane. We must pretend we are not as superfluously shallow as we actually are in order to keep ourselves feeling this sanity.
Though it is always obviously contrived for those who pay attention, there always needs to be a central narrative that suits the moral relativism of that day, in order to stave off the self-doubt that these harsh truths might unearth - before it was the belief that human chastity was conducive to moral and natural order, now it is that one’s actions are what defines desirability, rather than one’s unchosen physical maladies or lack thereof.
I think it got into the normie mindset because everyone seems incapable of admitting how important a factor looks are in the dating scene, so I’d imagine that upon hearing these statements from Stacy and Chad the normies chose to ignore (either selectively or subliminally, but certainly collectively) the obvious and latch onto another vacuous and inaccurate moral platitude that can be woven into the tapestry of lies that is the collective consciousness of man, the rose tinted narrative that humanity must buy into in order to convince himself he’s morally sane. We must pretend we are not as superfluously shallow as we actually are in order to keep ourselves feeling this sanity.
Though it is always obviously contrived for those who pay attention, there always needs to be a central narrative that suits the moral relativism of that day, in order to stave off the self-doubt that these harsh truths might unearth - before it was the belief that human chastity was conducive to moral and natural order, now it is that one’s actions are what defines desirability, rather than one’s unchosen physical maladies or lack thereof.
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