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A widespread pattern—especially among mammals such as Homo sapiens and one that's relevant to an evolutionary understanding of those unfortunate incels among us—is polygyny, in which a male has sex with multiple females.

To understand why polygyny is so common, look no further than eggs and sperm. The former, production of which literally defines females, are relatively large and even when, as in mammals, not encased in big hard shells, fertilization obligates the mother to a large investment during pregnancy and then, after birth, lactation. By contrast, the male specialty, sperm, are tiny and produced in vast quantities. As a result of this asymmetry, one male can fertilize many females, and in species in which there are equal numbers of each sex, the stage is set for intense male-male competition to do the fertilizing. The fact that a minority of males are often able to obtain more than their share when it comes to sexual success means that there must be many other males that are left out.


Nonhuman animals who find themselves sexually and thus reproductively excluded don’t join Internet chat groups where they share their frustration and fury at fornication foregone, but they can be violent, even lethal, troublemakers.

For an extreme case among mammals (and thus, a revealing one since it italicizes the more general situation), consider elephant seals. Among these highly polygynous animals, a dominant male can sometimes accumulate a harem of 30 or so females, which necessitates that for every such successful harem-master, 29 males are relegated to bachelorhood. These sexually frustrated animal incels aren’t especially aggressive toward females, but they are violent indeed, almost exclusively toward their fellow males.

The evidence for an underlying penchant for polygyny among human beings is convincing. For starters, there is the generally larger size of men compared to women: averaging between 10 percent and 20 percent, and applying to height, weight, and muscle mass. (The fact that some women are heavier, taller, and/or stronger than some men doesn’t negate the overall differences.) This differential, technically known as sexual dimorphism doesn’t prove anything by itself, although it is consistent with the male-male competition characteristic of other polygynous species in which the less competitive males are necessarily deprived of sexual and thus reproductive opportunities.

Human sexual dimorphism is also consistent with a polygynous evolutionary history when it comes to behavioral inclinations, with boys substantially more aggressive, on average, than girls, just as men are more aggressive and violent than women; once again, a difference that corresponds to the biological situation of other species in which males have been selected to compete for access to females. And in which some males, far more than some females, lose out.


More evidence is provided by sexual bi-maturism, in which girls mature earlier than do boys, a circumstance that is immediately apparent in any middle school or high school classroom. Given that reproduction is more physically demanding of females than of males, it would seem counter-intuitive that among human beings, girls become capable of having children at a younger age than boys, but it makes sense when we realize that because of the male-male competition associated with polygyny, it is adaptive for young males to delay entry into the competitive arena until they are older and larger.

Then there is the fact that prior to the social and cultural homogenization that came with Western colonialism, roughly 85 percent of human societies were preferentially polygynous. And finally, testimony from our genes themselves: all human populations evaluated thus far show greater genetic diversity among our mitochondrial DNA, inherited from mothers, than among our Y chromosomes, inherited by males from their fathers. This means that modern human beings are derived from a comparatively smaller number of male than of female ancestors, because a select few of the former mated with a larger number of the latter.

Put it all together and there is no doubt that Homo sapiens is a mildly polygynous species, not as extreme as elephant seals, but definitely setting the stage for some men to be less sexually and reproductively successful than others, unlike the biologically generated condition for women, in which the difference between the most and least “fit” is more muted. Accordingly, compared with men, incel women are exceedingly rare. (In some ways, accordingly, better to be female or a gay male! Either way, you are likely to encounter potential partners, while experiencing at least somewhat less exclusionary male-male competition.)


Of all living things, the human species is undoubtedly the most liberated from biological constraints and imperatives; evolution whispers within our DNA. But for a tiny minority of men who are particularly unfulfilled, unhappy, and dangerously unmoored, it sometimes shouts.


 
Psychology is a scam that can't even reproduce a lot of its results from so called well established theories
 
Psychology is a scam that can't even reproduce a lot of its results from so called well established theories
The blackpill is based on studies that are effectively psychology. What the fuck are you on about?
 
The blackpill is based on studies that are effectively psychology. What the fuck are you on about?
He thinks of psychology as clinical psychology only not evolutionary psychology.
 
He thought of clinical psychology not evolutionary psychology.
Even that effectively serves its purpose, when you’re depressed as shit and go to therapy and they give you jewpills, your brain is essentially programmed by those pills to feel better.

Our situation doesn’t change though, which is why we can see that therapy and pills is bullshit, but the average normie is so stupid they don’t realize that nothing has changed.

Overall, clinical psychology works on the masses, and that’s really all that matters to normies
 
Even that effectively serves its purpose, when you’re depressed as shit and go to therapy and they give you jewpills, your brain is essentially programmed by those pills to feel better.

Our situation doesn’t change though, which is why we can see that therapy and pills is bullshit, but the average normie is so stupid they don’t realize that nothing has changed.

Overall, clinical psychology works on the masses, and that’s really all that matters to normies
Yep, just delude people in the name of treatment. By the way, what's your take on this article above?
 
Seems accurate besides the 'small amount of incels" theres way more incels than society realises (looking at you IT cucks)
 
A widespread pattern—especially among mammals such as Homo sapiens and one that's relevant to an evolutionary understanding of those unfortunate incels among us—is polygyny, in which a male has sex with multiple females.

To understand why polygyny is so common, look no further than eggs and sperm. The former, production of which literally defines females, are relatively large and even when, as in mammals, not encased in big hard shells, fertilization obligates the mother to a large investment during pregnancy and then, after birth, lactation. By contrast, the male specialty, sperm, are tiny and produced in vast quantities. As a result of this asymmetry, one male can fertilize many females, and in species in which there are equal numbers of each sex, the stage is set for intense male-male competition to do the fertilizing. The fact that a minority of males are often able to obtain more than their share when it comes to sexual success means that there must be many other males that are left out.


Nonhuman animals who find themselves sexually and thus reproductively excluded don’t join Internet chat groups where they share their frustration and fury at fornication foregone, but they can be violent, even lethal, troublemakers.

For an extreme case among mammals (and thus, a revealing one since it italicizes the more general situation), consider elephant seals. Among these highly polygynous animals, a dominant male can sometimes accumulate a harem of 30 or so females, which necessitates that for every such successful harem-master, 29 males are relegated to bachelorhood. These sexually frustrated animal incels aren’t especially aggressive toward females, but they are violent indeed, almost exclusively toward their fellow males.

The evidence for an underlying penchant for polygyny among human beings is convincing. For starters, there is the generally larger size of men compared to women: averaging between 10 percent and 20 percent, and applying to height, weight, and muscle mass. (The fact that some women are heavier, taller, and/or stronger than some men doesn’t negate the overall differences.) This differential, technically known as sexual dimorphism doesn’t prove anything by itself, although it is consistent with the male-male competition characteristic of other polygynous species in which the less competitive males are necessarily deprived of sexual and thus reproductive opportunities.

Human sexual dimorphism is also consistent with a polygynous evolutionary history when it comes to behavioral inclinations, with boys substantially more aggressive, on average, than girls, just as men are more aggressive and violent than women; once again, a difference that corresponds to the biological situation of other species in which males have been selected to compete for access to females. And in which some males, far more than some females, lose out.


More evidence is provided by sexual bi-maturism, in which girls mature earlier than do boys, a circumstance that is immediately apparent in any middle school or high school classroom. Given that reproduction is more physically demanding of females than of males, it would seem counter-intuitive that among human beings, girls become capable of having children at a younger age than boys, but it makes sense when we realize that because of the male-male competition associated with polygyny, it is adaptive for young males to delay entry into the competitive arena until they are older and larger.

Then there is the fact that prior to the social and cultural homogenization that came with Western colonialism, roughly 85 percent of human societies were preferentially polygynous. And finally, testimony from our genes themselves: all human populations evaluated thus far show greater genetic diversity among our mitochondrial DNA, inherited from mothers, than among our Y chromosomes, inherited by males from their fathers. This means that modern human beings are derived from a comparatively smaller number of male than of female ancestors, because a select few of the former mated with a larger number of the latter.

Put it all together and there is no doubt that Homo sapiens is a mildly polygynous species, not as extreme as elephant seals, but definitely setting the stage for some men to be less sexually and reproductively successful than others, unlike the biologically generated condition for women, in which the difference between the most and least “fit” is more muted. Accordingly, compared with men, incel women are exceedingly rare. (In some ways, accordingly, better to be female or a gay male! Either way, you are likely to encounter potential partners, while experiencing at least somewhat less exclusionary male-male competition.)


Of all living things, the human species is undoubtedly the most liberated from biological constraints and imperatives; evolution whispers within our DNA. But for a tiny minority of men who are particularly unfulfilled, unhappy, and dangerously unmoored, it sometimes shouts.






what's my take on it All i say is rent fucking free and also did not read a single fucking word
 
It goes to show that monogamy needs to be enforced to have a stable community of people. Foids, of course, would hate that because it implies they'll have to settle for non-chad, their equivalent of civilization is the jungle. Males becoming aggressive when they are deprived of sex is valid in humans too, men in polygynous communities in Africa are more prone to violence than the ones in monogamous communities. There's a whole paper about that here: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0022002719859636
 
Spot on, except for the last paragraph, which is probabaly there to give some hope to the reader and to serve as damage control for the preceding paragraphs.

Of all living things, the human species is undoubtedly the most liberated from biological constraints and imperatives; evolution whispers within our DNA. But for a tiny minority of men who are particularly unfulfilled, unhappy, and dangerously unmoored, it sometimes shouts.

jfl. Yeah. That’s definitely damage control. A happy ending offering hope. “It’s just a tiny minority of men affected bro, it’s not serious at all!” Meanwhile the inceldom rate is like 30% for young men. “We’re free from our biological constraints bro! We’re not just chimps on autopilot that want to eat and fuck. We’re better and more dignified than animals!” Meanwhile everything we do including the writer writing that article is a survival and sexual strategy

we’ve been saying this for ages. This is the kinda shit that’s obvious to anyone who isn’t telling himself comforting lies and does not shy away from painful truths.
 
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For an extreme case among mammals (and thus, a revealing one since it italicizes the more general situation), consider elephant seals. Among these highly polygynous animals, a dominant male can sometimes accumulate a harem of 30 or so females, which necessitates that for every such successful harem-master, 29 males are relegated to bachelorhood. These sexually frustrated animal incels aren’t especially aggressive toward females, but they are violent indeed, almost exclusively toward their fellow males.
I've literally made the exact comparison; referring to the polygamous society within seals.

You see, I accept this is nature. We're no different than other mammals, however to lie and say that: "It's your personality and confidence", is an insult to not only us but to nature.
They can cope all they want, but women's primal instincts will tend towards seeking the best genes possible if left uncontrolled.
They have every right to do so, just don't fucking make me believe for the first 20 years of my life that women are not PURELY visual creatures and that my personality means fuck all when it doesn't.

As the author of that article has subtly implied, men won't just sit and watch however.
There is going to be violence (not encouraging it so FBI fuck off).
 
Spot on, except for the last paragraph, which is probabaly there to give some hope to the reader and to serve as damage control for the preceding paragraphs.

we’ve been saying this for ages. This is the kinda shit that’s obvious to anyone who isn’t telling himself comforting lies and does not shy away from painful truths.
This is said by an evolutionary psychologist. I've been searching about articles that directly touch upon incels from scientific perspective but majority of them wasn't good like this one.
I've literally made the exact comparison; referring to the polygamous society within seals.

You see, I accept this is nature. We're no different than other mammals, however to lie and say that: "It's your personality and confidence", is an insult to not only us but to nature.
They can cope all they want, but women's primal instincts will tend towards seeking the best genes possible if left uncontrolled.
They have every right to do so, just don't fucking make me believe for the first 20 years of my life that women are not PURELY visual creatures and that my personality means fuck all when it doesn't.
Exactly and our sexual selection process is no that different no matter however smarter we are from other mammals. Just see a pub scene and a mammals gathering place for mating, you won't see much difference.
 
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Yep, just delude people in the name of treatment. By the way, what's your take on this article above?
It’s not bad, considering it’s saying polygamy causes inceldom which is factual
 
This is said by an evolutionary psychologist. I've been searching about articles that directly touch upon incels from scientific perspective but majority of them wasn't good like this one.

Exactly and our sexual selection process is no that different no matter however smarter we are from other mammals. Just see a pub scene and a mammals gathering place for mating, you won't see much difference.
Imagine needing a degree to figure out what incels on the Internet already know and preach

check out gad saad. He accepts all the things we say as self evident truths, and his work goes forward from there. He’s been on joe rogan a few time. Has a YouTube channel. Publishes on psychology today. wrote a few books on evo psych/human motivators.. I’ll gladly shill for him every chance I get. Based af evo psych professor
 
Why is that idiot trying to compare us only with seals, why not dogs and cats? They also said the sexually frusted seals kill and fight the chad seals. Plus, most human foids don't reproduce with chads, they just get pumped and dumped by them. Chads can't take care of kids from 10+ different rosties. The author of this article should consider ending their life to increase the average human population iq.
 
Of all living things, the human species is undoubtedly the most liberated from biological constraints and imperatives;

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Foids, it can be argued, are anything but liberated from their biological imperatives.
 
More accurate than 99% of articles about incels I've seen at least. Most articles about incels just start by citing the incel mass shooters and then spell a bunch of bullshit about mentalceldom as if it was the only or even main type of inceldom.
 
And finally, testimony from our genes themselves: all human populations evaluated thus far show greater genetic diversity among our mitochondrial DNA, inherited from mothers, than among our Y chromosomes, inherited by males from their fathers. This means that modern human beings are derived from a comparatively smaller number of male than of female ancestors, because a select few of the former mated with a larger number of the latter.
Low iq. The only reason we came from a small number of men were because of genocides, not "muh nature".

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Accordingly, compared with men, incel women are exceedingly rare. (In some ways, accordingly, better to be female or a gay male!
Faggots.
 
Imagine needing a degree to figure out what incels on the Internet already know and preach

check out gad saad. He accepts all the things we say as self evident truths, and his work goes forward from there. He’s been on joe rogan a few time. Has a YouTube channel. Publishes on psychology today. wrote a few books on evo psych/human motivators.. I’ll gladly shill for him every chance I get. Based af evo psych professor
More accurate than 99% of articles about incels I've seen at least. Most articles about incels just start by citing the incel mass shooters and then spell a bunch of bullshit about mentalceldom as if it was the only or even main type of inceldom.
Whenever I search about incel on Internet, most of the time I come across shit like this.

Low iq. The only reason we came from a small number of men were because of genocides, not "muh nature".

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Faggots.
Yep, calling incels rare is very ridiculous, they're reasonably visible in numbers.
 
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Seems accurate besides the 'small amount of incels" theres way more incels than society realises (looking at you IT cucks)

I would say they're actually defending us via appeal to nature.

The only last thing now with appeal to nature is killing off the chad male & his progeny & forcibly having sex with the woman to make sure our genes get passed on.

Normies in particular Scientists aren't the brightest tools in the tool box.
Spot on, except for the last paragraph, which is probabaly there to give some hope to the reader and to serve as damage control for the preceding paragraphs.

Of all living things, the human species is undoubtedly the most liberated from biological constraints and imperatives; evolution whispers within our DNA. But for a tiny minority of men who are particularly unfulfilled, unhappy, and dangerously unmoored, it sometimes shouts.

jfl. Yeah. That’s definitely damage control. A happy ending offering hope. “It’s just a tiny minority of men affected bro, it’s not serious at all!” Meanwhile the inceldom rate is like 30% for young men. “We’re free from our biological constraints bro! We’re not just chimps on autopilot that want to eat and fuck. We’re better and more dignified than animals!” Meanwhile everything we do including the writer writing that article is a survival and sexual strategy

we’ve been saying this for ages. This is the kinda shit that’s obvious to anyone who isn’t telling himself comforting lies and does not shy away from painful truths.

Than why can't we shame women for their male body shaming then?
 
More accurate than 99% of articles about incels I've seen at least. Most articles about incels just start by citing the incel mass shooters and then spell a bunch of bullshit about mentalceldom as if it was the only or even main type of inceldom.

That's what I thought.
Imagine needing a degree to figure out what incels on the Internet already know and preach

check out gad saad. He accepts all the things we say as self evident truths, and his work goes forward from there. He’s been on joe rogan a few time. Has a YouTube channel. Publishes on psychology today. wrote a few books on evo psych/human motivators.. I’ll gladly shill for him every chance I get. Based af evo psych professor

He seems based but you can't deny the truth for so long & expect to get away with it.
Why is that idiot trying to compare us only with seals, why not dogs and cats? They also said the sexually frusted seals kill and fight the chad seals. Plus, most human foids don't reproduce with chads, they just get pumped and dumped by them. Chads can't take care of kids from 10+ different rosties. The author of this article should consider ending their life to increase the average human population iq.

Low iq. The only reason we came from a small number of men were because of genocides, not "muh nature".

Bullseye.
 
It’s not bad, considering it’s saying polygamy causes inceldom which is factual
Enforcing mandatory monogamy is solution but it is impossible to do it in today's cucked world.
 

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