Discussion What will have a mainstream counter-reaction first, race denial or women worship?

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

Race has a ticking clock running already, once they clearly identify which genes have what causal relationsship with intelligence, even the most intellectually flexible communist party member will struggle to keep the pretense alive.

Gynocentrism on the other hand affects more people, it's less taboo to criticize (though still heretical). More and more of main stream attention on the struggle of modern men. Each of these will start the journey for some fraction of the viewer base from to to . More and more there is also a somewhat sympathetic undertone in how these things are covered. It's slow, but public perception is changing.
There is also the world wide fertility crisis, which western nations will sooner or later have to face somehow.

Criticizing something "scared" is far more difficult the first time, once people lose the fear of breaking the taboo, once they see they are not alone in their perspective and so won't end up as total social recluse for speaking up, more and more will find the courage to say what's on their mind.

Not to be overly optimistic, but political positions based on mass ignorance can only stay unchanged for so long when face with constant uncontrollable infromation exchange online.
It's tempting to think how things are now is the way they will always stay, but the way things are is arguably not even two decades old.

 

[Asgard]

Your profile picture avatar is 100% spooky. In regards to your thread, society will push more males into suicide.

 

[LeFrenchCel]

Neither, we live in the dark ages, now and forever​

 

[Asgard]

Neither, we live in the dark ages, now and forever​

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

I'm still optimistic long term, maybe because I don't live in America so the true instanity has not reached me yet in person, only online

 

[Mountain jew]

Race realism. For the mere reason, that women will be terrified of third worlders.

They can bully around the white male college student and guilt trip him about patriachy, rape culture and male privilege

Now try the same with the war criminal from central africa

 

[TheIncelPill]

Race realism. For the mere reason, that women will be terrified of third worlders.

They can bully around the white male college student and guilt trip him about patriachy, rape culture and male privilege

Now try the same with the war criminal from central africa

I voted for neither, but this may be true. The grandmothers of german foids today voted for Hitler during their's.

 

[Julaybib]

nothing will change

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

nothing will change

that is the one thing I would bet against on almost any odds
technological progress, societal changes, the spread of forbidden knowledge through uncontrollable infromation channels like the internet, the historic trend of society always swinging back and forth between poles
it might not be within our lifetime, though I would also bet against that, but things won't remain this fked forever
they are far more likely to get even more fked or fked in new ways

 

[IncelsNeverCry]

Race realism is inevitable with the advancement of crispr and ultimately commercially available gene editing, I think society will never stop worshipping women at least not for the coming 100+ years it is too ingrained in the fabric of social and moral etiquette, religion and law but mostly due to their capacity to birth, synthetic embryos will always be a niche for the rich and autistic / sub humanoids when it becomes a thing so maybe this will never change maybe it is ingrained in the human specie.

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

Race realism is inevitable with the advancement of crispr and ultimately commercially available gene editing, I think society will never stop worshipping women at least not for the coming 100+ years it is too ingrained in the fabric of social and moral etiquette, religion and law but mostly due to their capacity to birth, synthetic embryos will always be a niche for the rich and autistic / sub humanoids when it becomes a thing so maybe this will never change maybe it is ingrained in the human specie.

The exploitation of the working class by industrialists fostered absurd misery, but that misery birthed political tension and ultimately lead to the creation of social security, unions and the welfare state.

I hope that a fate as miserable as ours will in the long term do the same, lead to a coutner-reaction pushing society in the opposite direction

 

[The Notorious SLAV]

Race denialism will disappear ages before women worship will. Everything about the leftwing, denialist position on race requires active effort to believe something, while gynocentrism happens automatically.

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

Race denialism will disappear ages before women worship will. Everything about the leftwing, denialist position on race requires active effort to believe something, while gynocentrism happens automatically.

Someone should open a betting pool. I think gynocentrism is already starting to cause a growing backlash. Most people aren't affected diretly by race related crime increase and don't percieve when they are affected by the economic costs, but many men will sooner or later percieve the fact that they aren't getting any and life is terrible for them.

I would bet it will go like this: sex differences become more openly acceptable because they are too obvious to deny forever -> there is some overlap with race related stuff -> race realism slowly starts creeping in through these cracks in the facade

 

[The Notorious SLAV]

Someone should open a betting pool. I think gynocentrism is already starting to cause a growing backlash. Most people aren't affected diretly by race related crime increase and don't percieve when they are affected by the economic costs, but many men will sooner or later percieve the fact that they aren't getting any and life is terrible for them.

I would bet it will go like this: sex differences become more openly acceptable because they are too obvious to deny forever -> there is some overlap with race related stuff -> race realism slowly starts creeping in through these cracks in the facade

Fair enough. My point was more in the direction that, even if there is a swing back against the results of sexual revolution and towards tradition and monogamy because of the fertility crisis and so on, it won't mean that women worship in the form of the "women are wonderful" effect and the belief of women being morally superior and men having a duty to protect them will go away with it. A lot of the current rightwing blowback against feminism is already built on it being supposedly bad for women, after all.

On the other hand, both politically and scientifically, race denialism has a ticking clock running, as you've said. Politically it might as well be dead, the right obviously acknowledges race and the left has already pretty much openly declared race-blindness to be racist in itself, saying that the only way to actually not be racist according to them is to think of race in every issue and interaction and base your behaviour and words on it all the time. Scientifically, meanwhile, we are really progressing quite quickly in identifying which genes are responsible for what, and it's only a matter or time until racial/ethnic differences start being mapped by mainstream institutes/scientists, the speed at which this happens probably dependent on how many stuff there will be found in which caucasians come up short when compared to others.

 

[Man]

Everyone is already blackpilled but woman worship has not changed

It likely never will.

At least with race realism the only thing holding back normies is censorship of information that leads to race realism.

 

[OutcompetedByRoomba]

Fair enough. My point was more in the direction that, even if there is a swing back against the results of sexual revolution and towards tradition and monogamy because of the fertility crisis and so on, it won't mean that women worship in the form of the "women are wonderful" effect and the belief of women being morally superior and men having a duty to protect them will go away with it. A lot of the current rightwing blowback against feminism is already built on it being supposedly bad for women, after all.

On the other hand, both politically and scientifically, race denialism has a ticking clock running, as you've said. Politically it might as well be dead, the right obviously acknowledges race and the left has already pretty much openly declared race-blindness to be racist in itself, saying that the only way to actually not be racist according to them is to think of race in every issue and interaction and base your behaviour and words on it all the time. Scientifically, meanwhile, we are really progressing quite quickly in identifying which genes are responsible for what, and it's only a matter or time until racial/ethnic differences start being mapped by mainstream institutes/scientists, the speed at which this happens probably dependent on how many stuff there will be found in which caucasians come up short when compared to others.

Political mainstream right has brains made out of dog food. These faggots only care about making career, they are as commited to a cause as I am commited to the girl I next fantasies about, less proably.

Have you seen the instances where large gene databanks have started requiring the researches that want access to their data to state the intend behind their research and refuse anyone with race related interests access? Had made me a bit more pessimistic about the speed of that whole development. The left does not sleep, at least some of them know what's coming and actively fighing it.