Hypocrisy What I've Noticed with Social and Political Activism (IT and Conservatives like myself on SuicideWatch)

[ALifeWastedOnRot]

I noticed that oftentimes the groups that are most politically active for a cause are not who you would typically expect and not the PRIMARY beneficiary of said activism. IT is a perfect example of that. I would have expected that if there was an entire group dedicated to mocking Incels, it would be HTNs who just like bullying and dabbing on us because they get sex and we don't. But that's not the case at all. They're the most disgusting obese troons the world has ever seen. They're WORSE than us both physically, intellectually, and morally. Why are they the ones upholding this Chad/Stacy aristocracy? I don't know.

And im going to stab myself a bit here, but I am trying to organize a protest for Trickle Down Economics. I met a lot of likeminded Conservative people at the Conservative club and they are also huge fans of Trickle Down Economics. It will be hard for an incel like me to arrange anything but even if it's just like 5 people, I still want to do it just for the experience. You'd expect that with us protesting in favor of Trickle Down Economics, we all come from wealthy families and have huge estates to our name. The truth is that we are all working class or poor. One guy who is most enthusiastic about it and gets the most angry about Liberals advocating for "tax the rich" is a Venezuelan refugee who has literally nothing to his name but debt. He is the most avid defender of tax cuts to the wealthy and his goal in life is to become a tax lawyer or accountant to help ultra high net worth individuals avoid taxes. We're all Incels or LTNs as well so it's not like we're privileged in any way.

Now I should note the second example isn't totally hypocritical because we are aware that Trickle Down Economics benefits the poor too, in fact it argubly benefits the poor more than the rich because to a poor person, a slightly higher wage means a lot whereas to a billionaire, even a 10% tax cut is barely noticeable. When we defend Trickle Down Economics we're not doing it for the rich, we're doing it for ourselves. We know that the best thing for us is what happens to be what's best for the investors and job creators.

 

[To koniec]

Your posting style reminds me of my early days - try harding and with limited english

 

[ALifeWastedOnRot]

Your posting style reminds me of my early days - try harding and with limited english

Your writing is still extremely poor and low quality.

 

[To koniec]

Anyway you are stating some obvious statements really, but i would add to some of your points

I noticed that oftentimes the groups that are most politically active for a cause are not who you would typically expect and not the PRIMARY beneficiary of said activism. IT is a perfect example of that. I would have expected that if there was an entire group dedicated to mocking Incels, it would be HTNs who just like bullying and dabbing on us because they get sex and we don't. But that's not the case at all. They're the most disgusting obese troons the world has ever seen. They're WORSE than us both physically, intellectually, and morally. Why are they the ones upholding this Chad/Stacy aristocracy? I don't know.

Depends some IT members are troonz, some are just average looking. I think you fall what many here on .is were repeating without end, that our enemy ( IT ) looks like truly lowest of the lows which is coping strategy that unites group that other members of opposing tribe are worse than us.
BTW i never understood why some member here are completely buckbroken and obssesed with IT, i have theory that they hope ( not openly at least ) that they will be included in screenshot and it will make their ''day''.
Chad/Stacy aristrocracy ?
Aristocracy is not right descrption for it tbh, Aristocrats are in my view just richfags, while value of good genetics will be always above value of social status.

And im going to stab myself a bit here, but I am trying to organize a protest for Trickle Down Economics.

No one will care

The truth is that we are all working class or poor. One guy who is most enthusiastic about it and gets the most angry about Liberals advocating for "tax the rich" is a Venezuelan refugee who has literally nothing to his name but debt. He is the most avid defender of tax cuts to the wealthy and his goal in life is to become a tax lawyer or accountant to help ultra high net worth individuals avoid taxes.

Literally human nature 101, humans say one thing, do second, think third. It's just facade bro, don't be naive idiot.

We're all Incels or LTNs as well so it's not like we're privileged in any way.

When i was 20 i was really into politics or even more when i was 17-18, right now...i just stopped caring, just want to survive until i will rope.
The more you live, you slowly feel apathy even more.

 

[To koniec]

Your writing is still extremely poor and low quality.

I know my nigga

 

[KillNiggers]

Depends some IT members are troonz, some are just average looking. I think you fall what many here on .is were repeating without end, that our enemy ( IT ) looks like truly lowest of the lows which is coping strategy that unites group that other members of opposing tribe are worse than us.
BTW i never understood why some member here are completely buckbroken and obssesed with IT, i have theory that they hope ( not openly at least ) that they will be included in screenshot and it will make their ''day''.
Chad/Stacy aristrocracy ?
Aristocracy is not right descrption for it tbh, Aristocrats are in my view are richfags, while value of good genetics will be always above value of social

Tribal shit man. X tribe going against Y tribe. We have tribe dynamics here aswell with the whole biggest trucel thing. Forming groups to take out other men and assert oneself as the dominant party even when there are no toilets.

 

[To koniec]

Tribal shit man. X tribe going against Y tribe. We have tribe dynamics here aswell with the whole biggest trucel thing. Forming groups to take out other men and assert oneself as the dominant party even when there are no toilets.

Can we talk on discord ?

 

[LWii]

You'd expect that with us protesting in favor of Trickle Down Economics, we all come from wealthy families and have huge estates to our name. The truth is that we are all working class or poor

Seeing poorfags defend their masters is just depressing

He is the most avid defender of tax cuts to the wealthy

Why not tax cuts for himself ?

 

[ALifeWastedOnRot]

Seeing poorfags defend their masters is just depressing

Why not tax cuts for himself ?

Cutting taxes for yourself won’t make you better off, the vast majority of people in your class will waste the money on dumb shit. The wealthy will save most of their additional savings. Therefore it’s better for the nation to cut taxes on the rich than the poor.

Seeing the poor fight against Trickle Down Economics depresses me because trickle down economics is what makes it possible for the poor to become rich.

 

[Lonelyus]

Tax the rich and give @Lonelyus the money

 

[LWii]

people in your class will waste the money on dumb shit.

Dumb shit produced by who ?

 

[ALifeWastedOnRot]

Dumb shit produced by who ?

Whomever produces it

 

[4sez]

Taxing the rich is, without a doubt, the gayest thing that has ever existed.

 

[ALifeWastedOnRot]

Taxing the rich is, without a doubt, the gayest thing that has ever existed.

Facts

 

[LWii]

Whomever produces it

Produced by the corporations that you defend. In a state planned economy, we could simply chose not to waste resources on dumb shit

 

[LWii]

Taxing the rich is, without a doubt, the gayest thing that has ever existed.

Even gayer than taxing the poor ?

 

[ALifeWastedOnRot]

Produced by the corporations that you defend. In a state planned economy, we could simply chose not to waste resources on dumb shit

A State planned economy falls under the economic calculation paradigm

 

[LWii]

A State planned economy falls under the economic calculation paradigm

Care to elaborate ?

 

[ALifeWastedOnRot]

Care to elaborate ?

Are you aware of the economic calculation problem by Mises? He explains how without allowing the aggregate population to trade and negotiate prices there’s no way to know the value of anything

 

[LWii]

there’s no way to know the value of anything

"Value" is subjective anyway so idk what his point is

 

[ALifeWastedOnRot]

"Value" is subjective anyway so idk what his point is

That’s literally his point, value is subjective by every measure. So the best bet is to allow the people to decide what they value via trading and pricing, which requires private ownership

 

[LWii]

value is subjective by every measure.

Yes

So the best bet is to allow the people to decide what they value

why ?

 

[ALifeWastedOnRot]

Yes

why ?

Because every transaction that occurs in a free market benefits both sides, as they wouldn’t enter into the transaction otherwise. Markets are generators of value for this reason. A state planner has no way to know if the participants involved in a decision value the outcome more than the cost because there’s no profit system to signal what’s valuable and what’s not

 

[LWii]

Because every transaction that occurs in a free market benefits both sides, as they wouldn’t enter into the transaction otherwise

No. People can be force into certain transactions by material forces.

Markets are generators of value

What? You agreed earlier that value is subjective.

the participants involved in a decision value the outcome more than the cost

Who cares about what normies values ?

 

[ALifeWastedOnRot]

No. People can be force into certain transactions by material forces.

How so?

What? You agreed earlier that value is subjective.

Yeah, increase value subjectively to every individual participate. Anyone who goes shopping leaves better off than when they return, because they subjectively value the goods more than the money they spent.

Who cares about what normies values ?

 

[LWii]

How so?

I dont work because i want to but so i dont starve. I could steal food but i could get in troubles with the cops. Im being force to work (and i dont like it)

increase value subjectively to every individual participate.

But some might value something positively and others negatively.

Anyone who goes shopping leaves better off than when they return

No necessarly. Goods can be seen as too expensive but we dont have much of a choice so we have to pay for it anyway. Housing for exemple, if the landlord raises your rent by 300%, will you just say: "its ok, i value this house more than my money" ?

 

[ALifeWastedOnRot]

I dont work because i want to but so i dont starve. I could steal food but i could get in troubles with the cops. Im being force to work (and i dont like it)

Well you're not entitled to another persons property. For you to get food for free, someone else would be forced to give up their property and labor for you. At least under free market capitalism no one forces anything on you, if the forces of nature do so, then they do, but that there's nothing we can do about that without violating someone elses' rights.

But some might value something positively and others negatively.

So if I value something postively, I will go out and buy that thing, if I buy it negatively, I will not. The market will reallocate it accordingly.

No necessarly. Goods can be seen as too expensive but we dont have much of a choice so we have to pay for it anyway. Housing for exemple, if the landlord raises your rent by 300%, will you just say: "its ok, i value this house more than my money" ?

I would move to a different place, and if all rents went up 300% then that would reflect that the aggregate market is valuing rent in that area as 300% more valuable due to either increased demand or lack of supply.

 

[SrutalBeggs]

Idk man I wanna live alone in the woods forever and not be chased by jewish debt collectors

 

[ALifeWastedOnRot]

Idk man I wanna live alone in the woods forever and not be chased by jewish debt collectors

I'm actually intentionally puting myself more and more into debt jfl

 

[LWii]

Well you're not entitled to another persons property

Why?

 

[ALifeWastedOnRot]

Why?

Because a prosperous society is built on individual ownership, without ownership and private property, there can be no economic calculation. A persons property is a direct reflection of what they contributed.

 

[LWii]

Because a prosperous society is built on individual ownership

Its not the only factor doe.
If a few oligarchs own everything and the rest of the population has to work and rent from them, is it "prosperous" ?
Should a starving man avoid stealing food, to respect property rights ?

 

[ALifeWastedOnRot]

Its not the only factor doe.
If a few oligarchs own everything and the rest of the population has to work and rent from them, is it "prosperous" ?
Should a starving man avoid stealing food, to respect property rights ?

If the oligarchs own everything in a free market that would mean the rest of the population gave up all their wealth or sold it all for cheap consumption. That would just mean the oligarchs are the best at handling resources.

 

[LWii]

If the oligarchs own everything in a free market that would mean the rest of the population gave up all their wealth or sold it all for cheap consumption. That would just mean the oligarchs are the best at handling resources.

What if 95% of the population gave everything to the oligarchs to serve them, for whatever reason. They could just steal the rest from the 5%. What can they do ?

You seem to forget that we incels are a minority and the majority hates us

 

[ALifeWastedOnRot]

What if 95% of the population gave everything to the oligarchs to serve them, for whatever reason. They could just steal the rest from the 5%. What can they do ?

You seem to forget that we incels are a minority and the majority hates us

If 95% of the population willingly gave shit to the Oligarchs then they deserve to lose it... how would that imply the oligarchs could steal from the remaining 5%?

Remember the Oligarchs are a minority too.

 

[Thugs-5-Less]

dnr

 

[LWii]

how would that imply the oligarchs could steal from the remaining 5%?

Because the 95% serves the oligarchs ? What do you think cops are ? You dont really think the police serves the people right ?

 

[estonia2k]

Another coal thread dnr

 

[ALifeWastedOnRot]

Because the 95% serves the oligarchs ? What do you think cops are ? You dont really think the police serves the people right ?

They don't though. The Oligarchs create jobs for the people. The people if anything are being served by the oligarchs because they're getting rich by working for them.

You know Amazon and Facebook employees can make over 100k a year? They're GETTING RICH off of Bezos and Zuckerberg.

 

[LWii]

They don't though. The Oligarchs create jobs for the people. The people if anything are being served by the oligarchs because they're getting rich by working for them.

You know Amazon and Facebook employees can make over 100k a year? They're GETTING RICH off of Bezos and Zuckerberg.

You got to be trolling

 

[ALifeWastedOnRot]

You got to be trolling

You endorsed a literal State planned economy like what the Soviet Union had. You don’t think I’ve already written you off as a troll days ago?

 

[LWii]

You endorsed a literal State planned economy like what the Soviet Union had. You don’t think I’ve already written you off as a troll days ago?

Im too lazy to type it out so i asked an AI to do it for me:


Yes, it can be argued — and with good reason — that every country in the world has a partially planned economy. While the degree and form of planning vary widely, virtually all modern economies incorporate some level of government intervention and economic planning. Here's how this argument can be structured:

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1. Definition of a Planned Economy​

A planned economy is one in which economic decisions (production, investment, prices, incomes) are significantly influenced or determined by central planning rather than market forces.


Pure planned economies are rare, but elements of planning exist in every real-world economy.

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2. Government Involvement in All Economies​

Even in the most market-oriented economies, governments:

• Set interest rates and monetary policy (via central banks)
• Regulate industries (health, environment, labor)
• Control tariffs and trade policies
• Subsidize or fund key sectors (e.g., agriculture, defense, energy, education, health)
• Invest in infrastructure and strategic technologies
• Maintain social safety nets (unemployment benefits, pensions, public healthcare)

All these are forms of economic planning or state intervention.

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3. Mixed Economy is the Global Norm​

Every country operates a mixed economy, blending market forces with government planning. The ratio may shift (e.g., the U.S. vs. China vs. Sweden), but the mix is universal.

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4. Crisis Management Necessitates Planning​

Events like the 2008 financial crisis, COVID-19 pandemic, or climate change policies show how governments:

• Intervene in markets
• Allocate resources
• Nationalize industries (temporarily or permanently)
• Guide production priorities

These are classic planned economy mechanisms, albeit situational.

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5. Strategic Sectors Are Planned Almost Everywhere​

• Defense, nuclear energy, space exploration, and public transportation are typically under strong state control or planning.
• Even in capitalist economies, industrial policy is used to guide or support certain sectors (e.g., semiconductors, green tech).

---

Conclusion​

So, yes: while the extent and form of planning differ, every country today has a partially planned economy. It is more accurate to see economies as lying on a spectrum between pure free-market and pure planned systems, with none at the extremes.

 

[ALifeWastedOnRot]

Im too lazy to type it out so i asked an AI to do it for me:


Yes, it can be argued — and with good reason — that every country in the world has a partially planned economy. While the degree and form of planning vary widely, virtually all modern economies incorporate some level of government intervention and economic planning. Here's how this argument can be structured:

---

1. Definition of a Planned Economy​

A planned economy is one in which economic decisions (production, investment, prices, incomes) are significantly influenced or determined by central planning rather than market forces.


Pure planned economies are rare, but elements of planning exist in every real-world economy.

---

2. Government Involvement in All Economies​

Even in the most market-oriented economies, governments:

• Set interest rates and monetary policy (via central banks)
• Regulate industries (health, environment, labor)
• Control tariffs and trade policies
• Subsidize or fund key sectors (e.g., agriculture, defense, energy, education, health)
• Invest in infrastructure and strategic technologies
• Maintain social safety nets (unemployment benefits, pensions, public healthcare)

All these are forms of economic planning or state intervention.

---

3. Mixed Economy is the Global Norm​

Every country operates a mixed economy, blending market forces with government planning. The ratio may shift (e.g., the U.S. vs. China vs. Sweden), but the mix is universal.

---

4. Crisis Management Necessitates Planning​

Events like the 2008 financial crisis, COVID-19 pandemic, or climate change policies show how governments:

• Intervene in markets
• Allocate resources
• Nationalize industries (temporarily or permanently)
• Guide production priorities

These are classic planned economy mechanisms, albeit situational.

---

5. Strategic Sectors Are Planned Almost Everywhere​

• Defense, nuclear energy, space exploration, and public transportation are typically under strong state control or planning.
• Even in capitalist economies, industrial policy is used to guide or support certain sectors (e.g., semiconductors, green tech).

---

Conclusion​

So, yes: while the extent and form of planning differ, every country today has a partially planned economy. It is more accurate to see economies as lying on a spectrum between pure free-market and pure planned systems, with none at the extremes.

You do realize that literally every single thing the A.I said was literally an argument for MY SIDE right?

Did you even read it? You proved my own point.

 

[LWii]

You do realize that literally every single thing the A.I said was literally an argument for MY SIDE right?

Did you even read it? You proved my own point.

No it dont

 

[ALifeWastedOnRot]

No it dont

It literally admitted that pretty much every economy in the world today uses some form of socialist planning.

 

[LWii]

It literally admitted that pretty much every economy in the world today uses some form of socialist planning.

Yes. Yet you said i want the Soviet Union back

 

[ALifeWastedOnRot]

Yes. Yet you said i want the Soviet Union back

And you claimed I was trolling because I pointed out that META employees make over 100k

 

[LWii]

And you claimed I was trolling because I pointed out that META employees make over 100k

What would a "non-planned" economy even look like ?
Would you be fine if a company build a nuclear power plant next to your house? And throw radioactive waste in a river somewhere ?

 

[ALifeWastedOnRot]

What would a "non-planned" economy even look like ?
Would you be fine if a company build a nuclear power plant next to your house? And throw radioactive waste in a river somewhere ?

That river would be private property under my system and they'd need permission from the owners of the river.

A non-planned economy would look like America before 1900

 

[LWii]

That river would be private property under my system

So your system have no public nature ? Where will go hiking then ?