What is your opinion on dark triad??

[NeverGetUp]

Babycel calls the mods whenever he can't win an online debate. Whatever, believe what you may. I'm done "arguing" with you. You are just a cultist, nothing more or less. If someone disagrees with you on some dogmas you instantly call the other person an infiltrator. This isn't civilized debate or even conversation, you are just having a meltdown

Im not having a meltdown I just don't think you are on the right forum. You are probably either some redpilled coper who thinks he can still ascend even though he is not genetically fit for it or you are someone from reddit who came here to "save" the evil evil inkwell. You are infiltrating the wrong place

 

[NeverGetUp]

Just explain what you believe in with your own words or don't even bother.

I already explained it, now take a look at the video or don't. I can't tell you what to do and you can't tell me what to do either

 

[Dogg27]

The reason we care about genetics is to make the lives of our children better, its just nature what can I even say about it. Go on Incel Wiki and read some articles. Now as to why ugly people exist is because of genetics and genetics can believe it or not degenerate in quality over generations. The following thread kind of covers that topic
Thread '[Theory]Dietpill- How Modern Food & Diets Contribute To Inceldom.' https://incels.is/threads/theory-dietpill-how-modern-food-diets-contribute-to-inceldom.615293/
Now of course the modern medicine has also contributed to this. There are many different factors that make genes bad and our natural instincts tell us to reproduce with attractive people for a reason

Nature isn't a rational entity. Many species died off during the course of history. Darwinism is an overrated and outdated theory imo and we shouldn't let it influence our opinions very much. Most people, male or female simply don't a give a shit about genetics and what offspring their sexual behavior might result in. Most people only care about pleasure. As for the ugly people theory, if those genes had it in them to degenerate then they weren't good genes at all to begin with, were they? Foids don't have some 6th sense that can predict whose offspring will be healthier or stronger, that's just mystifying foids and thinking they are special. Or you are just putting way too much trust into "instinct". My whole point is that foids are simply attracted to people that have lots of resources at their disposal or some kind of "power". They are selecting mates based on pure hedonism and wanting to live the easy life, not with producing Übermensch children in the future. They don't care about genetic purity and producing healthy children, they just want to feel good here and now.

 

[Robb97]

First of all it's called dark tirad, and second of all, no. No, it's not just my opinion.

People will deny it but of course it's my experience as well. Only looks matter, and I'll never forget that.

 

[NeverGetUp]

Nature isn't a rational entity.

Nature is where rationality and logic come from in the first place

Most people, male or female simply don't a give a shit about genetics and what offspring their sexual behavior might result in.

That is wrong and I already explained why

My whole point is that foids are simply attracted to people that have lots of resources at their disposal or some kind of "power".

I understand what you mean but that is not true. Physical features are the first thing we see when selecting for mates. If a man has a lot of money but no attractiveness he will just get used for the money and the reason anyone cares about money is because of what it can get you. Im right and you are wrong
Enjoy your ban

 

[NeverGetUp]

First of all it's called dark tirad, and second of all, no. No, it's not just my opinion.

People will deny it but of course it's my experience as well. Only looks matter, and I'll never forget that.

Tell that to @Dogg27 He is denying looks matter at all. Its common sense but not to everyone

 

[Dogg27]

Im not having a meltdown I just don't think you are on the right forum. You are probably either some redpilled coper who thinks he can still ascend even though he is not genetically fit for it or you are someone from reddit who came here to "save" the evil evil inkwell. You are infiltrating the wrong place

I already said multiple times that some people can't ever have sex. Don't put things I never said into my mouth. The only thing we are having a debate over is what is attractive to women. You and others said it's looks first of all. I said no, it is money/power/status/being a non-autist/non-weirdo guy. Idk why it is so triggering for some to acknowledge that looks as a male aren't everything. Looks are everything if you are a foid because foids attract males to them based on their physical attractiveness. Do you think cavewoman Stacy fucked with caveman prettyboy Chad or with caveman Chad who had meat and was ruthless enough to get the most of meat and other resources? Foids are whores yes we agree, but they aren't whores for the sake of having sex, They are whores because having sex means they get free stuff.

 

[Robb97]

Tell that to @Dogg27 He is denying looks matter at all. Its common sense but not to everyone

Telling things to a looks denyer is common sense. But obviously not for anyone.

 

[Dogg27]

Nature is where rationality and logic come from in the first place

That is wrong and I already explained why

I understand what you mean but that is not true. Physical features are the first thing we see when selecting for mates. If a man has a lot of money but no attractiveness he will just get used for the money and the reason anyone cares about money is because of what it can get you. Im right and you are wrong
Enjoy your ban

There is no rationality and logic anywhere in this universe, that's where you are wrong. There are no natural laws, only events that happen in nature.
>If a man has a lot of money but no attractiveness he will just get used for the money and the reason anyone cares about money is because of what it can get you
How is this different from what I stated? Again, the only difference between us is that you think foids love Chad. No, they don't love anyone. They love the easy life and material comfort. And they can get it best by having sex with Chad and manipulating him according to their whims.

 

[SoycuckGodOfReddit]

Tell that to @Dogg27 He is denying looks matter at all. Its common sense but not to everyone

these retards pretend that foids, who are largely led by emotion and will run off and get murdered by an abusive bf if it feels good, are some kind of nerdy schemer redpillers

 

[SoycuckGodOfReddit]

They love the easy life and material comfort. And they can get it best by having sex with Chad and manipulating him according to their whims.

wtf r u talking abt chad isn't a betabuxx

 

[Dogg27]

these retards pretend that foids, who are largely led by emotion and will run off and get murdered by an abusive bf if it feels good, are some kind of nerdy schemer redpillers

Males are more emotional than foids. If you think foids are capable of having genuine emotions then you are bluepilled. They run off with abusive bf because they think he is some alpha who will protect them. Obviously, their conclusions about men are bullshit and they deserve everything bad that happens to them. That doesn't mean they aren't scheming cunts.

 

[SoycuckGodOfReddit]

Males are more emotional than foids. If you think foids are capable of having genuine emotions then you are bluepilled.

Idk what a 'genuine emotion' is supposed to mean. emotions aren't deep. if u think foids don't feel emotions then that's just odd

druggies like getting high and foids like feeling good too, idk what's confusing abt that

 

[Dogg27]

wtf r u talking abt chad isn't a betabuxx

Every male is buxxx material in foid's eyes. Or do you honestly believe foids wouldn't cheat on Chad or leave him if he lost his desirable traits or ascend with a better Chad?

 

[Dogg27]

Idk what a 'genuine emotion' is supposed to mean. emotions aren't deep. if u think foids don't feel emotions then that's just odd

druggies like getting high and foids like feeling good too, idk what's confusing abt that

Simply that you do things spontaneously and without any planning as to how that action will benefit you in the future. Foids manipulate men all the time. Or you don't think so?

 

[Suicidal Schizoid]

Every male is buxxx material in foid's eyes. Or do you honestly believe foids wouldn't cheat on Chad or leave him if he lost his desirable traits or ascend with a better Chad?

where is the buxx factor if no money is involved

 

[Dogg27]

where is the buxx factor if no money is involved

Okay, I stand corrected there but I mentioned it before. Money/resources/power/influence/being a non autist. Some foids go for simply the "powerful men" or alphas and these do happen to be lower class criminals or unpleasant, aggressive, violent people generally. You can be homeless loser but if you omit an aura of power then foids won't resist you. Either way, they always want something in return for sex. They don't just give themselves to anyone.

 

[NeverGetUp]

but if you omit an aura of power

That aura of power you are mentioning is simply height and sharp well developed facial features. Yes some of the dark triad traits come in play here aswell but the physical aspect is the dominant one

 

[reveries]

@Dogg27 the reason you don't understand the importance of looks is because you falsely assume that foid's mate choice always comes down to what a man provides for her, like "easy life" and protection as you said, but you forgot to include sexual and romantic desire, which usually stands above everything else especially nowadays, when living is too safe and easy compared to what we had throughout history. And this desire comes from a man's looks, not from the fact the he provides/has status/some other kind of power. As people have already said to you, most foids would rather fuck a homeless chad than a rich statusmaxxed normie.

Dual mating strategy is a thing because foids have two uses for men, which are power (money, protection, status) and sex & romance. You completely threw the second one out the window for some reason. I understand the desire to dehumanize foids, but they are people too, just shitty ones, and are capable of loving (chad), it's just that this love is way more shallow than a man's.


Also, ugly people exist because previously foids were not allowed to choose their own mates, especially based on bullshit qualities like jaws and heights.
When people here told you "foids choose by genetics" they didn't mean genetic purity or health, of course foids don't care about these things, they only care about their pleasure as you yourself have said and tall chads give them endless rushes of dopamine.

Ugly people also exist because it's only ugly men who are not allowed to reproduce now, but ugly foids are free to pass their genes.

 

[Dogg27]

That aura of power you are mentioning is simply height and sharp well developed facial features. Yes some of the dark triad traits come in play here aswell but the physical aspect is the dominant one

What are height and sharp facial features worth if you are some beta cuck, though? Physical features don't mean you are dominant at all, you can be a giant but still have a pacifist nature and avoid conflict. The conclusion of lookism is this little comedic sketch I came up with.
""Chad"" walks up to foid: Hi! I have a 10 m long cock, a jawline so sharp you could cut yourself touching it, 200 packs of muscles and as you can see I am 200 cm tall! But I also cry whenever someone is a little mean to me, I'm so much of an autist that I can't even wipe my ass correctly and haven't had a bath this year yet, I can't even talk without spitting you in the face and I live with my mom who has to read me fairy tales every night I go to sleep. Would you go out with me??
Foid: Why, O-M-G, this is the man I've been waiting for all my life! Just have sex with me right here, right now!
Of course you don't think this is realistic at all but yet you are implying this is the logical conclusion in a scenario like this.

@Dogg27 the reason you don't understand the importance of looks is because you falsely assume that foid's mate choice always comes down to what a man provides for her, like "easy life" and protection as you said, but you forgot to include sexual and romantic desire, which usually stands above everything else especially nowadays, when living is too safe and easy compared to what we had throughout history. And this desire comes from a man's looks, not from the fact the he provides/has status/some other kind of power. As people have already said to you, most foids would rather fuck a homeless chad than a rich statusmaxxed normie.

Dual mating strategy is a thing because foids have two uses for men, which are power (money, protection, status) and sex & romance. You completely threw the second one out the window for some reason. I understand the desire to dehumanize foids, but they are people too, just shitty ones, and are capable of loving (chad), it's just that this love is way more shallow than a man's.


Also, ugly people exist because previously foids were not allowed to choose their own mates, especially based on bullshit qualities like jaws and heights.
When people here told you "foids choose by genetics" they didn't mean genetic purity or health, of course foids don't care about these things, they only care about their pleasure as you yourself have said and tall chads give them endless rushes of dopamine.

Ugly people also exist because it's only ugly men who are not allowed to reproduce now, but ugly foids are free to pass their genes.

You have fallen for feminist myths when you speak of female romantic desire and sexuality. These things don't exist. I have a sister who isn't bad looking at all so I know how foids choose mates, but not just from her example. I had long talks with foids I approached and while they never obviously said things out clear it was always obvious that they only care about money and the easy life or simply status. Most of them really hate sex and only think of it as something to be done to keep your boyfriend/husband/etc. It's a ritual, an act of bonding they realize is necessary for men but they could be happy without it. A 10/10 milf foid (42 yo at the time of our conversation) said she never even derived any enjoyment from sex until she was 30+, despite having Chad bfs all her life. Another foid, she was younger, said that she never masturbated in her life and not because she always had someone but simply because she didn't feel the need to. Foids aren't what you see in porn, porn is something artificial created to satisfy men's fantasies. And they aren't even close being similar to us when it comes to sexuality and selecting mates. Most of this lookism cultism is just male projection onto foids.
If we followed your reasoning then teenage and young 20s good-looking "Chads" (who are more like just physically attractive normalfags) should be the most popular and should have harems of foids but again, reality proves otherwise because young "Chads" get cucked by rich older Chads who aren't as physically fit or attractive anymore (who are the actual Chads and who do have harems of foids). Also, how do you explain that foids love blacks and jews so much in the west? Blacks and jews are objectively uglier than white men yet they slay pussy. Blacks because they are portrayed as "cool" and jews because they tons of money.

 

[SandNiggerKANG]

Interacting with foids is a massive mind game. Very emotionally manipulative creatures. If you outwit them and beat them in the game of social chess then it’s good. You’ve won. That’s basically dark triad and learning how to read people and get them in chokeholds socially etc. But I’m fucking socially retarded in real life because of Tism, no experience etc. a hellish feedback loop I can’t escape.

 

[Runt171]

a hellish feedback loop I can’t escape.

You pretty much just summed up the life of an incel

 

[SandNiggerKANG]

You pretty much just summed up the life of an incel

Yeah you’re right ngl I have nothing to do but think deeply about how fucked I am. So I just write a lot of stuff I guess. Some stuff I say might resonate like right now it did

 

[basedcrackaddict]

Tcc foids prove dark triad mogs jfl

 

[Emba]

Unless you already have dark triad traits there is no dark triad maxxxing

Im guessing you already have some traits though if you are saying this


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@Evil thoughts?

 

[GeneticDysfunction]

Nigga dark triad only works if you look intimidating. If you dont, you will just be a sperg waiting to get jailed or murdered.

Again you can see, it is all about LOOKS.

 

[GeneticDysfunction]

Dark triad is just the natural state of being a man. It can help you increase your smv by a little but if you don't have the looks for it, you will most likely fail

 

[Runt171]

Nigga dark triad only works if you look intimidating. If you dont, you will just be a sperg waiting to get jailed or murdered.

Again you can see, it is all about LOOKS.

Isnt that what I said in the post??

 

[GeneticDysfunction]

Isnt that what I said in the post??

Have to make sure you never forget

 

[PunishedNEETcel]

That's a massive wall of text, I'll be honest I didn't read it all.

The question dark triad raise to my mind is: are the women really attracted to the evil in darktriad men, or in features that could potentially be found in "good" men ?

For example : fearless, unapologetic, make his own rules, powerful, dangerous, intelligent (but not in a nerdy way, more like in a what you'd find in a mastermind or a CEO), cold blooded (not emotive).

These features are neutral, they can be used for good or evil.

But you'll definitely find them more often in psycopath than in your average computer scientist.

What if "dark" triad wasn't even "dark" in the first place ?

"psycopathy" can simply mean control over one's emotions
"narcissism" could just be confidence and looking for one's best interest
And "Machiavellianism" is the ability to read other people's emotions and agendas and taking advantage of it.

These traits are not necessarily negative, if you really think about it.

t. Jordan Peterson



(jk, jk, I actually think you raise some good points)

 

[underballer]

Dark triad are like quagmire from family guy, ugly or average, but horny and slave to desires and will achieve them by any way.

Multiple people with dark triad/tetrad, including ugly men with such traits eventually succeed with women, because the narcissism lies in the fact of getting laid with a woman that hated you at first after chasing her, manipulating her then fucking her, gives a dopamine rush very high to psychopath who lives otherwise boring life.

It doesn't matter he keeps trying no matter what because he feels no shame and the ends justify the means.

None of us are dark triads otherwise wouldn't be here.

Most exhibit similar traits to them but aren't pure born type.

Why wouldn’t you just rape at that point

I have a feeling that dark triads only operate within the rules/realm of society

 

[copemaxx9002]

Nigga dark triad only works if you look intimidating. If you dont, you will just be a sperg waiting to get jailed or murdered.

Again you can see, it is all about LOOKS.

 

[SlayerSlayer]

I know people will deny it and say only looks matter but Ive seen otherwise in my life experience
Dark triad is a good trait for getting women and success in life in general depending on the iq of the person

People will say you are not a true blackpiller you are a redpiller or whatever bullshit but all of this comes into the blackpill

The blackpill to me is the true nature of the world
Its obvious in this world that evil is rewarded and the evil people get ahead of most people in life because of what they are willing to do that others might not be

If a redpiller thought about this they would think “I just need to become more dark triad then”
But that isn't possible you either are or aren't dark triad

You cant change your nature


Ive seen a decent amount of examples where dark triad helps people in my area to get pussy
Obviously they aren't subhuman I’m not saying you can get pussy as a subhuman with dark triad
I would say you need to be atleast average looking for Dark triad to work

It also helps if they are intimidating in some way like having a good frame so That that they are able to use violence easier and intimidate people into getting what they want
A trait like this allows them to be more dominant over people which will help in attracting women

This aswell as being dark triad is what would have allowed the guy from this post to get pussy since his face isnt that good
Obviously it helps he is tall too but dark triad definitely had its part in helping him

German ex-convict describes his involuntary celibacy in prison.

So this guy dealt with drugs, guns and “hurt people”, he has spent his twenties in prison and is now married and some kind of social worker. He talks about the effects of sexual isolation while in prison (tho, masturbation was still possible). The framing of the interview is very emotional and...

incels.is

One guy I was sort of friends with is a decent example of dark triad being a good trait

I met this guy when I was 16 and went to collage there was alot of roadmen in my class

this guy started talking to me and we became “friends”

I didnt really like him much and he would disrespect me a decent amount
I would put up with it since I had low self esteem at the time because I hadnt found the BP yet and still blamed myself for all my failures in life

I had nothing to do since it was quarantine and my friends wouldn’t go out
I was bored and sick of rotting away and thought maybe I would somehow get pussy through knowing this guy Or it would atleast be somewhat entertaining compared to rotting

This guy was a dealer but he only sold weed
he was friends with a decent amount of the crack and heroin dealers near my area
He came from a family of drug dealers and criminals

This guy wasnt tall
At the time I was 5’4/5 and still growing and this guy wasn't much taller then me maybe 5’5 or a weak 5’6 at best and I think he was done growing

He had an average looking face with a weird tooth gap like mike tyson and a wide face with deepset eyes
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He did have a very full beard for someone at that age though I still barely see anyone my age (20) with a full beard even now


He had a stubby sort of build he was chubby but had some muscle he wasnt a big guy though

He also had some weird problem with one of his hands where he couldn’t use it properly I think he said it was a problem with his brain or some shit

Honestly I don't remember much else about how he looked since this was years ago and My memory is bad but this is enough to get a vague description

By the time I knew him he was 17 and already had a kid Which surprised me and it felt weird knowing someone My age had a kid since I hadn’t known anyone with a kid at that age

He had a kid with this blonde white girl with light eyes
I think the kid was 1 or 2 when I met him

I remember one time When we were out he was telling me about how he would always get angry and argue with her about dumb shit for no reason and then he said one time he started beating her with a broom while they were arguing and how he used to hit her alot when they were together

I laughed because I didn’t really know what to say
Its not like I really cared about the morals of him beating his bitch but I was more surprised He would just tell me that randomly
And also wtf are you even supposed to say to that
there was barely any build up to it we were just talking about his ex and then he just dropped that story on me

I thought that If he could beat his girl like that someone who he said he “loved”
he could easily fuck me over if he felt like it since it seemed like he didn't like me that much

This is around when I decided to stop being friends with him because I felt like it was more trouble then it was worth

He tried stalking me after because he was probably angry someone like me had tried to throw him away
someone he saw as below him
it probably hit his narcissistic ego and fucked with him
I would see him on this hill opposite to my house looking at it a few times and then he stopped

Im surprised he never tried fucking with me because he easily could of made my life hellish with all the people he knew
maybe he did somewhat like me idk

The way he framed the story of him beating his girl to me was as if he was trying to say that he had changed into a better person or some shit when it’s obvious he hadnt because from the way he told it I could tell he didn't really care about what he did
I think that might of been why he wanted to be friends with my autistic ass
so he could prove to himself he had become a better person

She stayed with him after this btw I think they broke up not long before I met him from what I remember which was awhile after the broom beating
Their relationship went on for a few years in total where he was probably doing shit like this constantly even while they had their baby

A few times he would show me these girls he had been fucking after breaking up with her and none of them were ugly
He wouldn’t take them out on dates or anything he would just have one night stands with them

I was trying to find his facebook so I could give a better description of him but I only found his old one that had no pics

All of his friends on his friends list have gfs or girls they can fuck btw some of them also have kids
Most of these guys Are average looking
and a few are moggers( for my area)but most of them are average facially

Ive met most of these people whether through him or through the shitty pru school I was sent to Or Ive atleast heard stories about them and they are all pieces of shit

Some of these people sell crack or heroin they’ve robbed from people stabbed people beaten people all sorts of fucked up shit

One time I was with that guy and we met up with his crack dealer friends and stayed with them while they were out selling in the spot they met up with the junkies

These people had no care for the lives of these junkies and just saw them as walking money
They don’t care about the effect their shit has on their lives they just care about what they can get from them

And this is the view they have for all people
They care about no one but themselves

None of them liked me btw and they all treated me like shit apart from maybe one guy But He was probably only being somewhat nice to me to try and manipulate me into being some kind of pawn for them to use

Because they saw that I didn’t want to be used to deal drugs for them and they saw I wouldn't be useful in any way to them they just bullied me for most of the time that I was there
Hopefully they have all either been stabbed or have moved up to london to sell and had acid thrown in their face

I can guarantee the girls of these men get treated like shit but yeah Just have a good personality bro

I even have examples from women In my own family that get with men and then they are abused and they always say “he wasnt like that when I met him “ or “he has a nice side to him”
Yeah whatever
He was like that when you met him you just hadn't seen that side yet

They always stay with these men too btw
Not a single one of them ever left after being abused the first time

Its always so obvious when they are the type of men to do this too but their personality detectors malfunction
Whenever Ive been told about what happened to my family members I was never surprised

Women even do this with famous men who are known for being pieces of shit like richard ramirez and the world famous inspirational speaker Jeremy meeks

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even though we all know he is a piece of shit
We all know he is in prison for dealing drugs for beating a teenager near to death and being a lifelong criminal women will still say he seems like a nice guy
This is mostly because of the halo effect of his looks I wont deny that
he wouldn't have been freed from prison without his looks

But he also wouldn’t have gotten famous if he wasn’t in prison for being dark triad

Women will do this with any men they find attractive even with the mfs I was talking about earlier who aren't anything special looks wise

But those mfs would never get the jeremy meeks or wade wilson treatment because they arent attractive to a large majority of women they were just able to be successful with the women in their area

You will only get treated like that with genuinely good genes which is where I think the looks theory comes into it

This is my view on dark triad from my life experience anyway Im not saying im right about this because obviously I dont have all the answers to all this shit

But from what I can tell dark triad is a massive help for you in life in general and especially with foids

Just be dark triad bro

tldr: im jealous of anyone that's violent, fearless, and self-serving and can get away with it