Serious What is wrong with MGTOW and Coping?

[Deleted member 25707]

Serious replies only.

All right I know I know it's MSTOW not MGTOW and most of them are delusional anyways. But let's say you swallowed the blackpill and instead of wallowing in self pity and depression you just give up on relationships and just focus on your copes(and fuck hookers)

What is wrong with that?
What's wrong with coping anyways? We are not delusional coping, we are self aware coping.

I know I'm subhuman who will never get a girl so I just give up on the idea of a romantic relationship as a whole and just worry about things which are in my control.

Is it bad?
If so, then why?

I feel like MGTOW(or MSTOW) is a better idealogy.

 

[Caesercel]

Its what we're doing anyway. Coping. Just with more of a doomed loser mentallity than MGTOW. Since we know it never began and its not our fault.

 

[Deleted member 25707]

Its what we're doing anyway. Coping. Just with more of a doomed loser mentallity than MGTOW. Since we know it never began and its not our fault.

But this doomed mentality is depressing. It kills my productivity. I feel like I'll be better browsing MSTOW forums than here.
I'm 20 so I'm young. If I fail in life and studies then I'm gonna regret this a lot in my old days.

 

[Ping And Pong]

I think MGTOW makes complete sense for oldercels, me still being in university I still have the smallest delusional hope.

 

[Robtical]

The things I don't like about them are: they usually hate incels, and they don't tell each other to stop paying taxes to the gynocentric government.

 

[DirtyCurryCell]

It's coping.
And denying reality.

 

[Babica Yaga]

Nothing wrong with MGTOW movement. It's just that a major portion of its followers are incels in denial. In other words, they were sent their own away even though they believe they went their own way themselves. Ie, cope.

 

[Deleted member 21219]

I can sympathize with Mstow. Mgtow are a bunch of delusional old copers.

 

[Deleted member 25707]

It's coping.
And denying reality.

Why is it bad?
We are all gonna die one day be it coping or not coping. So what's the benefit of such self awareness when we(Incels) are at the bottom of the barrel anyways.
This self awareness is doing more harm than good.

 

[Caesercel]

But this doomed mentality is depressing. It kills my productivity. I feel like I'll be better browsing MSTOW forums than here.
I'm 20 so I'm young. If I fail in life and studies then I'm gonna regret this a lot in my old days.

Lol. You are an idiot if you let the mentallity derived from this place effect your real life. You will need some bluepilled/redpilled optimism to keep going but it'll be worth it. No point LDARing and rotting 24x7.

You can always become a cynical doomer later on when you are in 30s

 

[Deleted member 25707]

Nothing wrong with MGTOW movement. It's just that a major portion of its followers are incels in denial. In other words, they were sent their own away even though they believe they went their own way themselves. Ie, cope.

What's wrong with coping man?
A coping ricecel will live for 80 years and die.
A self aware ricecel will live for 80 years and die?

The coping ricecel will be more happier and optimistic.
So what's the benefit of such self awareness?

Lol. You are an idiot if you let the mentallity derived from this place effect your real life. You will need some bluepilled/redpilled optimism to keep going but it'll be worth it. No point LDARing and rotting 24x7.

You can always become a cynical doomer later on when you are in 30s

Yeah you are right. That's why I think MGTOW is much superior and massively underrated here.

 

[mNFwTJ3wz9]

The only problem is that some of them deny reality by claiming they "do what they want" instead of acknowledging that they've been fucked over.
Otherwise it's pretty good.

So what's the benefit of such self awareness?

This is a deeper question that has no correct answers.
I only know I want to be self aware and can't say anything for anyone else

 

[Deleted member 25707]

The only problem is that some of them deny reality by claiming they "do what they want" instead of acknowledging that they've been fucked over.
Otherwise it's pretty good.

This is a deeper question that has no correct answers.
I only know I want to be self aware and can't say anything for anyone else

So being a Self Aware blackpilled MGTOW is ideal huh?
@mgtow what are your thoughts?

 

[Deleted member 16624]

theres nothing wrong with mgtow and coping people here just want to drag you to suicide

 

[Gymcelled]

The only thing wrong with that is that most people can't actually cope the way you've described. Maslow's hierarchy of needs is very clear on this, you can't pursue the esteem and self actualization without the lower levels.

You're literally trying to build a fancy mental structure on an almost non existent mental foundation.

 

[Deleted member 25707]

theres nothing wrong with mgtow and coping people here just want to drag you to suicide

The giga Chad is back.
@nihility thoughts?

Anyways, jokes aside. I agree about the suicide part. Feels like ppl here like dragging others down.

The only thing wrong with that is that most people can't actually cope the way you've described. Maslow's hierarchy of needs is very clear on this, you can't pursue the esteem and self actualization without the lower levels.

You're literally trying to build a fancy mental structure on an almost non existent mental foundation.

So you think Love!= Sex?

Maslow talks about sex right? Isn't escortceling the solution to this problem?

 

[ShiiOfTheSPLC]

I don't think anyone here is really against the idea of focusing on yourself instead of trying to impress women, people just make fun of MGTOW specifically because they can be kind of ridiculous (ex: divorced 40 year old man posting a picture of a ham sandwich he made and saying "This is what the MGTOW life looks like kings!! GYOW!!")

 

[Deleted member 25707]

I don't think anyone here is really against the idea of focusing on yourself instead of trying to impress women, people just make fun of MGTOW specifically because they can be kind of ridiculous (ex: 40 year old man posting a picture of a ham sandwich he made and saying "This is what the MGTOW life looks like kings!! GYOW!!")

Fair enough.

But I've seen users here hating on MGTOW for some reason. I think they hate delusional copers.

Don't you think a self aware blackpilled mgtow is the ideal way of thinking?

 

[mNFwTJ3wz9]

So being a Self Aware blackpilled MGTOW is ideal huh?

Obviously, but that is chad only as usual.

 

[Deleted member 25707]

Obviously, but that is chad only as usual.

 

[ionlycopenow]

But this doomed mentality is depressing. It kills my productivity. I feel like I'll be better browsing MSTOW forums than here.
I'm 20 so I'm young. If I fail in life and studies then I'm gonna regret this a lot in my old days.

The blackpill is poison when you're young. It's true, but it absolutely kills any motivation. I'd probably stay off for the time being. I went from a 4.0 GPA to a depressed barely functioning dropout due to early blackpill exposure. I had to pick myself up from the shitter I was in for a few years after. The blackpill destroyed me as early as my teens.

 

[mgtow]

So being a Self Aware blackpilled MGTOW is ideal huh?
@mgtow what are your thoughts?

'And, indeed, I will ask on my own account here, an idle question: which is better - cheap happiness or exalted sufferings? Well, which is better?' - Fyodor Dostoevsky

Self deception in blissful ignorance or, self aware and suffer (the reality)?

It really depends on the person. If you can handle it, fine. But then can he handle it? How is one to live in this dog eat dog world where everyone chooses to decorate themselves with grandiose lies of themselves and you with this fatal flaw of self-awareness? Hence, loneliness.

Or, keep telling yourself that you rejected all the immoral foids as if you have some say over your life and join under the umbrella of MGTOW instead of standing exposed as an incel, hey at least your psyche isn't hammered daily of your self worth and you get to live with less pain.

It is all upto the individual.

 

[Ropemaxx]

But this doomed mentality is depressing. It kills my productivity. I feel like I'll be better browsing MSTOW forums than here.
I'm 20 so I'm young. If I fail in life and studies then I'm gonna regret this a lot in my old days.

Well in that sense, its an better options
As much as i endorse the blackpill, going out and trying to get money is much better than rotting here

But some of us are so depressed or mentally fucked up we cant even do that. If you have the drive to try to moneymaxx, go for it

 

[joe_incel123]

Serious replies only.

All right I know I know it's MSTOW not MGTOW and most of them are delusional anyways. But let's say you swallowed the blackpill and instead of wallowing in self pity and depression you just give up on relationships and just focus on your copes(and fuck hookers)

What is wrong with that?
What's wrong with coping anyways? We are not delusional coping, we are self aware coping.

I know I'm subhuman who will never get a girl so I just give up on the idea of a romantic relationship as a whole and just worry about things which are in my control.

Is it bad?
If so, then why?

I feel like MGTOW(or MSTOW) is a better idealogy.

MGTOW implies we actually had a chance, they pretend being voluntarily single men. In reality, most of them are just coping incels.

 

[nihility]

The giga Chad is back.
@nihility thoughts?

it's over, prepare for the mogging

 

[Caesercel]

But this doomed mentality is depressing. It kills my productivity. I feel like I'll be better browsing MSTOW forums than here.
I'm 20 so I'm young. If I fail in life and studies then I'm gonna regret this a lot in my old days.

You're 20? And studying algebraic geometry? Mogs me to oblivion

 

[Irredeemable]

There is nothing wrong with coping, don’t listen to cope shamers.

 

[WØLF]

theres nothing wrong with mgtow and coping people here just want to drag you to suicide

Tbh. Pretty much my only gripe is that so many MSTOW copers shit on incels just like normies (because that's what they are) despite being in a worse position.

 

[Deleted member 16624]

Tbh. Pretty much my only gripe is that so many MSTOW copers shit on incels just like normies (because that's what they are) despite being in a worse position.

Agreed,they can be really delusion at times.

 

[RREEEEEEEEE]

Men coping their own way. Just like we do, but at least we admit we're coping and don't hide behind a façade of a false sense of self-fulfillment.

 

[Fat Link]

The things I don't like about them are: they usually hate incels

This.

Even though just like IT most of them are incels themselves who cling on to the MGTOW label in order to try and "save face" much like my mostly former comrades over on Wizchan who pretend as a site to be volcels also to save face.

Funniest fucking thing of all is MGTOW is fucking hated by the manosphere every bit as much as we "open" and "proud" (lol) incels/Wizards are by society at large and why is that you might wonder?

It is because the manosphere correctly views the majority (if not all of them) as simply being an incel (or literal faggot group) that is simply going by the moniker of MGTOW.

One of my pro white racialist ideological heroes and activists that being Scott Roberts once basically remarked that he thought MGTOW was a group of faggots or something along those lines created by the Jew to encourage men not to breed in the interests of white genocide lol.

Now I'm definitely a proponent that Jewish conspiracies exist and in vast amounts at that, but I think MGTOW is more a genuine organic reaction from men to how Jews have ruined women through radical feminism rather than MGTOW being something the Jews themselves literally created.

Its also once again a way for guys who are too ashamed to embrace the incel/Wizard labels to pretend and LARP that there's still a chance for them with women.

They gosh darnit! "just haven't found the right one yet" lmfao!!!

No, buddy "finding" has nothing at all to do with it, it was ovER for you (or rather "nevER began") from the moment you were born due to shit genetics.

 

[Robtical]

Its also once again a way for guys who are too ashamed to embrace the incel/Wizard labels to pretend and LARP that there's still a chance for them with women.

They gosh darnit! "just haven't found the right one yet" lmfao!!!

Jfl. If they were real mgtow they wouldn't care about not being able to attract women, and they shouldn't have a problem saying they're incels.

 

[epillepsy]

mgtow aren't looking truth in the face and they're being intellectually dishonest.

 

[Iwanttolive]

I wish to support mgtow more but a lot of these guys like to say cringey stuff like 'i only pump n dump' as if they r chads that hv foids at their beck n call. While I do believe such men exist but the majority of mgtow r definitely not the calibre and should be more truthful to their circumstances

The things I don't like about them are: they usually hate incels, and they don't tell each other to stop paying taxes to the gynocentric government.

They try to one up incels to prop themselves up to the very society that is causing this shiet.

 

[Deleted member 16390]

true mgtows are emotionally detached from foids such as
slayer Chads/Tyrones and porn stars that been with thousands of foids. Escortcels/whoremongers that been with thousands of foids. Monkmaxxing/cabinmaxxing dudes that dont have internet. None of them would be posting in any mgtow forums.

 

[based_meme]

I feel like MGTOW(or MSTOW) is a better idealogy.

How is MGTOW an ideology, and better than which ideology?

 

[Lone-Star]

Its what we're doing anyway. Coping. Just with more of a doomed loser mentallity than MGTOW. Since we know it never began and its not our fault.

 

[AlexanderTheGreat11]

I hate incels in denial

 

[Bangkok or bust]

Mgtow forums are more based or more "sexist", albeit they are just spewing out the destructive truth of female nature and feminism.

But they are indeed Incels in denial.

If they didn't give a shit and swore off women, they wouldn't be on the mgtow forums and would be out enjoying hobbies. The male sex drive and not getting companionship obviously gets the better of them. Men aren't meant to live alone, as "soft" as that may sound, it has truth to it. Without a wife you are nothing to normies other than a failure. These men are typically 30+ and get ostracized for not having a woman and that obviously plays havoc on your mental health having being dealt being treated badly for not having a woman myself.

Couples who are 30+ want to mingle with other couples, not single men. We are shut out. I feel most Mgtows are feeling this alienation too.

 

[Robtical]

They try to one up incels to prop themselves up to the very society that is causing this shiet.

They call themselves "mgtow" yet they still follow what cucks and whores tell thm.

 

[NoCopeNoHope]

I don't hate MGTOW. The blackpill as described here is very brutal, and I can understand why some would still want to hold onto hope. MGTOW fits that group perfectly. The key difference between us and MGTOW is that we believe our situation was determined by our genes and there is very little we are able to do to fix these things without lots of money. On the flipside, the blackpill allows you to do things more effectively using the knowledge it provides.

For example, a properly blackpilled man is immune to manipulation via sex. We know its over, so any attempt by a woman to use "love" or sex appeal as a bargaining tactic is seen in a suspicious light immediately. IRL, this means that he won't automatically give women a pussy pass just because they are young and attractive (a common problem with non-blackpilled men). We know she has 60+ 6/10+ men trying to get her attention, so there is no point in wasting time or effort pursuing her. A redpilled or bluepilled man would still try regardless using their respective approaches, giving her the ego boost she wants before chad picks her up.

true mgtows are emotionally detached from foids such as
slayer Chads/Tyrones and porn stars that been with thousands of foids. Escortcels/whoremongers that been with thousands of foids. Monkmaxxing/cabinmaxxing dudes that dont have internet. None of them would be posting in any mgtow forums.

You can't truly detach from foids for both biological and societal reasons. Biological reasons include longing for sex and companionship, and societal reasons include foids having a very large say in how the government is run. Case in point, white suburban women will determine if Trump gets elected or not. This has far reaching consequences on both the individual and societal level, including the monk living in the woods. So no, I don't blame them for bitching about femisites. The purest form of MGTOW would be male separatism, but such a society is sadly not sustainable with the current level of technology.

 

[Transcended Trucel]

Lol. You are an idiot if you let the mentallity derived from this place effect your real life. You will need some bluepilled/redpilled optimism to keep going but it'll be worth it. No point LDARing and rotting 24x7.

You can always become a cynical doomer later on when you are in 30s

this. overdosing on blackpill does nothing good. 99% of blackpilled overdosers never rope but become depressed rotters and post maxxers with no future.

 

[Deleted member 25707]

this. overdosing on blackpill does nothing good. 99% of blackpilled overdosers never rope but become depressed rotters and post maxxers with no future.

This tbh

 

[Deleted member 16390]

this. overdosing on blackpill does nothing good. 99% of blackpilled overdosers never rope but become depressed rotters and post maxxers with no future.

I dont find myself oding on blackpill , it's like vitamin c , cant really oding if the acidity is tempered. The purest blackpill strengthen your soul and body, and build character,just watch out for generic types from China, those are tainted.

 

[Deleted member 16390]

er[QUOTE="NoCopeNoHope




You can't truly detach from foids for both biological and societal reasons. Biological reasons include longing for sex and companionship, and societal reasons include foids having a very large say in how the government is run. Case in point, white suburban women will determine if Trump gets elected or not. This has far reaching consequences on both the individual and societal level, including the monk living in the woods. So no, I don't blame them for bitching about femisites. The purest form of MGTOW would be male separatism, but such a society is sadly not sustainable with the current level of technology.
[/QUOTE]
An asexual man would have no romantic/sexual emotions toward foids but he would still have favorable love and affection for his mother and other close foids relatives, and perhaps altruistic empathy for stranger foids as well. I would consider him a mgtow. My former definition of all emotional detachment is not accurate. Also a psychopathic criminal rapist/murderer/ etc... have conditioned himself to be heartless or perhaps never had any favorable emotions toward foids to begin with. He had achieved the state of mgtowism without having to cabinmaxxing as other mgtow wannabee have tried.How many monkmaxxing cabinmaxxers that have achieved this state is unknown if even it was possible.