Serious MGTOW channels underplaying how important sex is

[Stupid Clown]

It's too common for MGTOW guys to lecture young men for desiring women. "stop being a simp! You can be more than this! Just enjoy life"
Well, that's easy for them to say considering most MGTOW talking heads are in their 50s. An age where their sex drive has significantly died down and they've likely already been divorced twice.

They're seemingly unable to emphasize with guys who are younger and sexually inexperienced. Of course we care about sex more when our sex drives are higher and we haven't had any experience with women! No shit. That's like eating a burger and then telling a hungry person that his hunger doesn't matter and he should get over it.

It makes it hard to watch MGTOW channels without cringing. At least thinking ape is able to admit his sex drive died down. (Although he can't comprehend men being unable to move on and ignore their lack of sex) Others believe they've somehow spiritually ascended because their sex drives died down in their 40s. Lmfao.

 

[strange_to_be]

Why waste your time analyzing MGTOW? They're just incels who are too cowardly and narcissistic to tell themselves the truth

 

[Stupid Clown]

Why waste your time analyzing MGTOW? They're just incels who are too cowardly and narcissistic to tell themselves the truth

Because some MGTOW channels offer truths such as studies and research. Thinking ape is a good example. You can find a lot of good stuff in these spaces that shows proof of the discrimination against men.

 

[strange_to_be]

Because some MGTOW channels offer truths such as studies and research. Thinking ape is a good example. You can find a lot of good stuff in these spaces that shows proof of the discrimination against men.

But you don't really care that men have worse jobs. You just care that no one will suck your dick

 

[Stupid Clown]

But you don't really care that men have worse jobs. You just care that no one will suck your dick

I do care because it affects my life in a negative way. If some girl sucked my dick I'd still care and my hatred of women wouldn't suddenly disappear.

 

[GeckoBus]

It's too common for MGTOW guys to lecture young men for desiring women. "stop being a simp! You can be more than this! Just enjoy life"
Well, that's easy for them to say considering most MGTOW talking heads are in their 50s. An age where their sex drive has significantly died down and they've likely already been divorced twice.

They're seemingly unable to emphasize with guys who are younger and sexually inexperienced. Of course we care about sex more when our sex drives are higher and we haven't had any experience with women! No shit. That's like eating a burger and then telling a hungry person that his hunger doesn't matter and he should get over it.

It makes it hard to watch MGTOW channels without cringing. At least thinking ape is able to admit his sex drive died down. (Although he can't comprehend men being unable to move on and ignore their lack of sex) Others believe they've somehow spiritually ascended because their sex drives died down in their 40s. Lmfao.

its actually ironic how mgtow refuses to merge with incels, when both sides could easily compliment each other with the data they have. Its just another example of how men not having a natural in-group bias like foids keeps men from doing shit against their situation. Mgtow has so much data to offer, insight into relationships, MRA type shit on gender history bla bla. But because of some minor differences, they refuse to engage with incels.

For example one of the dumbest disagreements that constantly comes up is the battle between status vs lookism. Like they are somehow mutually exclusive. They will literally go apeshit on each other over that. Why can looks not just be a proxy for status? I will never get this. We know women choose and reject partners collectively, we have studies on that. And status is based on what the majority of a group values - so lookism and status overlap massively.

Despite this obvious fact, you constantly see turf wars between MRAs, mgtow and blackpillers over this shit, its actually retarded.

 

[Moroccancel]

. "stop being a simp! You can be more than this! Just enjoy life"
Well, that's easy for them to say considering most MGTOW talking heads are in their 50s. An age where their sex drive has significantly died down and they've likely already been divorced twice.

There are incels in denial, there are divorcerapedmen and genuinely people who has been destroyed by foids. So yeah, MGTOWs are basically in their majorities normies destroyed by reality and some incels in denial, but in those conditions, it is the smartest decision.

They're seemingly unable to emphasize with guys who are younger and sexually inexperienced. Of course we care about sex more when our sex drives are higher and we haven't had any experience with women! No shit. That's like eating a burger and then telling a hungry person that his hunger doesn't matter and he should get over it.

If you are a normie, you would end fucking, but if for fucking you need to break your head, your mind and your wallet, it would just make you agree with MGTOWs in what they are saying.

It makes it hard to watch MGTOW channels without cringing. At least thinking ape is able to admit his sex drive died down. (Although he can't comprehend men being unable to move on and ignore their lack of sex) Others believe they've somehow spiritually ascended because their sex drives died down in their 40s. Lmfao.

I do not agree most MGTOWs are 40s+, it must be between 25 and 40s.

 

[Moroccancel]

ts actually ironic how mgtow refuses to merge with incels, when both sides could easily compliment each other with the data they have. Its just another example of how men not having a natural in-group bias like foids keeps men from doing shit against their situation. Mgtow has so much data to offer, insight into relationships, MRA type shit on gender history bla bla. But because of some minor differences, they refuse to engage with incels.

Because except incels in denial, most MGTOWs are or were normies who sexhad and are able to betabuxx. Our conclusions are the same, but not the initial conditions.

Despite this obvious fact, you constantly see turf wars between MRAs, mgtow and blackpillers over this shit, its actually retarded.

I have never had a problem agreeing with MRAs or MGTOWs on the blackpill, only copers and incels in denial reject the facts.

 

[Stupid Clown]

its actually ironic how mgtow refuses to merge with incels, when both sides could easily compliment each other with the data they have. Its just another example of how men not having a natural in-group bias like foids keeps men from doing shit against their situation. Mgtow has so much data to offer, insight into relationships, MRA type shit on gender history bla bla. But because of some minor differences, they refuse to engage with incels.

For example one of the dumbest disagreements that constantly comes up is the battle between status vs lookism. Like they are somehow mutually exclusive. They will literally go apeshit on each other over that. Why can looks not just be a proxy for status? I will never get this. We know women choose and reject partners collectively, we have studies on that. And status is based on what the majority of a group values - so lookism and status overlap massively.

Despite this obvious fact, you constantly see turf wars between MRAs, mgtow and blackpillers over this shit, its actually retarded.

Yeah. I made a comment on a MRA the other day telling him that status wasn't genuinely attractive to women and he got pissed off. I think status is a cope for them. They like to believe that looks don't matter and girls only care about status.


The biggest thing that keeps incels and mras apart imo is MRAs not wanting to associate with men they view as lower than themselves; and incels not wanting to associate with sex havers.

 

[Aegon Targaryen]

makes it hard to watch MGTOW channels without cringing. At least thinking ape is able to admit his sex drive died down. (Although he can't comprehend men being unable to move on and ignore their lack of sex) Others believe they've somehow spiritually ascended because their sex drives died down in their 40s. Lmf

The worst thing about these channel is the false hope they generate. They tell their audience some form of collapse or revolution will happen soon as a cope and these poor souls believe it.

Same with the importance of men in life's of women. Who cares if a sub 5 drops out of the dating market? Women won't date them anyways. But again, MGTOW makes it seem like them dropping out is this earth wrecking thing for a woman.

It's giant cope. But still leagues better than red pill.

 

[Stupid Clown]

There are incels in denial, there are divorcerapedmen and genuinely people who has been destroyed by foids. So yeah, MGTOWs are basically in their majorities normies destroyed by reality and some incels in denial, but in those conditions, it is the smartest decision.

If you are a normie, you would end fucking, but if for fucking you need to break your head, your mind and your wallet, it would just make you agree with MGTOWs in what they are saying.



I do not agree most MGTOWs are 40s+, it must be between 25 and 40s.

Tbh I don't think they're completely wrong. Once female nature is exposed it's hard to desire a relationship with them. I've known chads who refuse relationships because they hate women so much.

Yeah, you're right about it appealing more to normies. The problem is they cope and try to say that Chad plays by the same rules.

 

[Stupid Clown]

The worst thing about these channel is the false hope they generate. They tell their audience some form of collapse or revolution will happen soon as a cope and these poor souls believe it.

Same with the importance of men in life's of women. Who cares if a sub 5 drops out of the dating market? Women won't date them anyways. But again, MGTOW makes it seem like them dropping out is this earth wrecking thing for a woman.

It's giant cope. But still leagues better than red pill.

Exactly. As if governments won't just import third worlders.

 

[Moroccancel]

Yeah, you're right about it appealing more to normies. The problem is they cope and try to say that Chad plays by the same rules.

Yeah, that's right

 

[Serious]

stop being a simp! You can be more than this! Just enjoy life"
Well, that's easy for them to say considering most MGTOW talking heads are in their 50s. An age where their sex drive has significantly died down and they've likely already been divorced twice.

Im 33 and its just not the same sexual drive that I had when I was teenager/early 20s.
Its so stupid to say younger people that they shouldnt think witheir penises, I mean its their fucking nature to think with it.

 

[late20scel]

They know their audience is incel'sphere and wont get any pussy. Also mgtowmanosphere talking points change every year. It's an endless cycle of shit content to squeeze money from incels-in-denial.

 

[Stupid Clown]

Im 33 and its just not the same sexual drive that I had when I was teenager/early 20s.
Its so stupid to say younger people that they shouldnt think witheir penises, I mean its their fucking nature to think with it.

Exactly.

They know their audience is incel'sphere and wont get any pussy. Also mgtowmanosphere talking points change every year. It's an endless cycle of shit content to squeeze money from incels-in-denial.

True to an extent. Some aren't grifters but a lot are.

 

[Todd Thundercock]

I consider myself more MGTOW than blackpill these days.

I understand where MGTOWs are coming from now because fucking escorts is no different than fucking your wife who you've built a family with. Women intrinsically cannot care about men. So, I agree with them in that fuck whatever women you can but don't commit to anything.

Where MGTOWs are annoying is delusional red pill bullshit. Most really believe that women still desire them and it's because they put in the hard work. But, I understand it's better for their own standing to be delusional like that and keep going. I'm in an opposite unique position on autismbux.

 

[Lux]

Mgtow is designed for sexhavers

 

[Emba]

I was mstow before inkwell

 

[WorthlessSlavicShit]

I do care because it affects my life in a negative way. If some girl sucked my dick I'd still care and my hatred of women wouldn't suddenly disappear.

Exactly. Same as with lookism affecting absolutely all parts of our lives, not just causing our romantic failure.

Cross-country evidence on the wage of people with above and below-average looks

https://wol.iza.org/articles/does-it-pay-to-be-beautiful/long Jfl. Every single time women get reminded of how much they benefit from their gender, the number one retort is that they are just seen as sex objects and that's horrible and men can never understand it and bla bla bla. Yet, despite...

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For example one of the dumbest disagreements that constantly comes up is the battle between status vs lookism. Like they are somehow mutually exclusive. They will literally go apeshit on each other over that. Why can looks not just be a proxy for status? I will never get this. We know women choose and reject partners collectively, we have studies on that. And status is based on what the majority of a group values - so lookism and status overlap massively.

Despite this obvious fact, you constantly see turf wars between MRAs, mgtow and blackpillers over this shit, its actually retarded.

The two go hand in hand yet people insist that they are completely seperate.