Serious What if men and women actually aren't all that different?

[incel4life]

The differences in male and female behavior are blatantly obvious, much more obvious than society admits. Furthermore, it is clear that these differences ultimately have their roots in biology. But what if the mechanism by which biology creates gender differences in human behavior is mostly indirect rather than direct?

My thinking is this: If you are a man, and you grew up in a place where for some reason all men acted like women, would you not feel compelled to act like a woman? In other words, what if you lived in a place where women wanted to commit fornication with every man in sight, and men were the ones who were selective and only wanted to commit fornication with the most beautiful and high status women? Would you not feel compelled to act as is socially acceptable for your gender? And if you lived in a society where men had tons of options for getting women, would you not find yourself becoming more selective?

I think it is possible that men and women have only minor biological differences in behavior. But these biological differences in aggregate create a culture which reinforces and amplifies these differences. But if you regulate the culture, for example by implementing religious laws, then it will be religion that dictates the ways of the culture rather than biology. If religious laws reduce the disparity of sexual power between the genders (as enforced monogamy does), then you will find men and women behaving more similarly in regards to mate selection, and probably other areas too.

 

[janoycresva]

 

[VisVoi]

Men can be made to act like women, however women cannot be made to act like men. This is because women are essentially just men with low testosterone and no ability to think in the abstract.

You can make sure someone does not reach their maximum genetic potential, however you cannot increase someone's maximum genetic potential.

 

[th62eathhts2]

so what your saving is gender is a social construct?

 

[Mahlo]

I don't think so m8

 

[incel4life]

so what your saving is gender is a social construct?

I guess so, except I believe the culture that creates the gender differences in behavior has its roots in biology. I actually oppose transgenderism BECAUSE gender is a social construct. Since gender is a social construct, every person has the capacity to live as the gender they were born as - even if you are, as many transgenders claim to be, a "woman's brain with a man' body".

 

[Notgoingtomakeit]

Have you not learned a single thing here man?

 

[YungCell]

Men can be made to act like women, however women cannot be made to act like men. This is because women are essentially just men with low testosterone and no ability to think in the abstract.

You can make sure someone does not reach their maximum genetic potential, however you cannot increase someone's maximum genetic potential.

High IQ

I guess so, except I believe the culture that creates the gender differences in behavior has its roots in biology. I actually oppose transgenderism BECAUSE gender is a social construct. Since gender is a social construct, every person has the capacity to live as the gender they were born as - even if you are, as many transgenders claim to be, a "woman's brain with a man' body".

Gender norms are st most 25% because of society and 75% because of biology.

 

[The End]

I'm interested in nature vs nurture, and my understanding is that nature is running away with the victory.

 

[Deleted member 10531]

Have you not learned a single thing here man?

 

[Ap0calypse]

Your life may be made by your choices, but your choices are made by your biology.

 

[Inbuddhist]

Explication is wrong for obvious reason.

There are biological factors that makes supply/demand in favor of women, even if men/women were initially as selective, the fact that women are taken out from the sexual market because of pregnancy/periods but men are never out of the sexual market makes the supply/demand in favor of women.

I'm not disagreeing about your last paragraph though (possible solutions), only the first two.

 

[Deleted member 2798]

Your life may be made by your choices, but your choices are made by your biology.

Too right.

All of these pomo bluepills about "enculturation" or whatever exist in stark ignorance or misunderstanding of the relationship between culture and nature. Culture is nothing more than an epiphenomenon of nature; it does not exist beyond it and does not arise out of nothing. Go about a step further and you've got, "ummmmmmmmmm wymyn wouldn't do that if it weren't for THE PATRIARCHY. We're all just vessels for discursive power dynamics arising from ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm????????????????". There has to be something there in the first place and it has to be something significant.

I think it is possible that men and women have only minor biological differences in behavior. But these biological differences in aggregate create a culture which reinforces and amplifies these differences. But if you regulate the culture, for example by implementing religious laws, then it will be religion that dictates the ways of the culture rather than biology. If religious laws reduce the disparity of sexual power between the genders (as enforced monogamy does), then you will find men and women behaving more similarly in regards to mate selection, and probably other areas too.

"Minor biological differences." If man refuses to guide it, of course nature tends to amplify itself through the matrix of culture. The world is a vicious cycle. But it is in the shadow of his own nature that man regulates. For whatever reason, the regulators now all seem to be female in spirit. The culture that exists currently is a magnifying glass for the whorishness of the foid. The world is built in their image and they are allowed to be more "like themselves" than ever.

Look what happened here, too. Even when you swallow their lies and spit them back out verbatim, you're only ever "so close".

Look at this monkey. "Well that sounds like the sort of stupid shit I would say, but they're incel????????"

 

[znbox]

They are quite different but there are huge differences within groups, so you can find 1 man and 1 woman that think and act very similarly but in general biological differences matter.