ordinaryotaku
Rotting collegecel. Women hate me for existing.
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If you were to choose ONE...
Added a both option tbh.Does one exclude the other? I feel like Im more lonely than horny atm and so would like a loving gf more. But if she doesnt want sex then Id feel really unloved tbh love depends on sex.
That summarizes it.Love and validation for my beauty and personality from cute adorable loli of culture, and sex as part of it (necessary part)
there’s no point in sex if it isn’t with someone you love.
The mindset you have here is exactly why this forum has gone to shit, and is going to continue to go into shit, you'll notice the userbase is becoming more and more bold in saying stuff they would not dare say when the forum was new for fear of being banned, now that shit is becoming normalized, because mods allowed that kind of mindset to spread and fester, its only a matter of time till you are left with a love shy forum, and all you see are threads about appealing to normies to "see incels in a different light", when you let emotional arguments and subjectivity thrive, you better expect it to become the dominating force in that environment, its only a matter of time
I can have sex with myself. I can't love myself.
But now I realize that while you can imitate the act sex by jerking off, or fucking a doll or whatever
id rather a loving girlfriend man
Doesn't matter. I'm not sexually frustrated. I'm perfectly satisfied jerking off. I'm just lonely and want a companion.You guys are coping hard right now, that experience isn't even close to what sex is
I'm perfectly satisfied jerking off.
what i was thinkingLove is more important but if she rreally love sme she would give me sex whenever i want
true love(and all types of love now) is reserved for Chadlite or better
also JFL at incels coping with ascension
descension is where it is at
imagine wanting to go higher when you have to fight to maintain your ascension quo and possibly ascend
Of course, masturbation isn't as good as sex, but it's an approximation of it. On the other hand, having a loving partner is an experience that can't even be approximated.You guys are coping hard right now, that experience isn't even close to what sex is
love depends on sex
having a loving partner is an experience that can't even be approximated.
1. I don't think it is.1. Friendship is an approximation
2. Love doesn't exist, not in the sense you are portraying it as with your words, its completely physical, saying you wish you had a woman that "loved" you, is just a euphemistic way of saying you wish you had a woman that was "physically attracted" to you, why beat around the bush with poetic subjectivity to make "love" seem like something unreal and magical
1. I don't think it is.
2. I don't mean love in such an abstract sense, that would be absurd. What I have in mind includes cuddling, hugging, kissing, etc.
Love doesn't exist unless you're chad
I feel that friendship is of a completely different category from love, like they involve different parts of the brain. You mention physical attraction, and there's no disagreement here -- sexual attraction is presupposed by romantic love. No woman will love you if she isn't attracted to you sexually.Why?
Those are physical acts that can be done seperate from the concept of "love", again what you mean is someone physically attracted to you, because only such a person would do those things with you (without direct payment)
This, at this point i just feel it's too lateDeath
It's normal for a person to want to feel loved and validated, despite how unlikely it is for an incel to get a femoid to love and validate him
OP if you are joking I'm sorry, Poe's Law is in full effect, its impossible to tell if users are joking about this shit anymore, the userbase is becoming this cucked, stuff like this is no longer obviously sarcastic
It's normal for a person to want to feel loved and validated, despite how unlikely it is for an incel to get a femoid to love and validate him
There is clearly a divided view on this board, some people just want sex whilst others want to stop feeling lonely and have a companion who validates them (and have sex lmao)
It's not cucked to feel lonely at all, it's a normal human emotional response to loneliness
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Wanting to feel love/belonging is even on Maslow's heirachy of needs
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It's the same logic to call a friendless loser, who feels a strong need for validation + approval + acceptance, dumb because he feels lonely and longs for having friends. He can't control the fact that he feels lonely and depressed bc it's a normal reaction to the lack of any acceptance.
Can he find ways to cope with it (e.g. via games and other forms of media)? Yes
But will it cure him of his loneliness? No
This is basically why some people on this board would want a loving gf (as unlikely it is to find a foid who would want to validate you) over sex with some prostitute. Because they want to stop being lonely, and having sex with a prostitute is merely coping with loneliness instead of curing it.
I keep telling you guys, appeal to nature is a double edged sword, the entire point of the black pill as a concept, is that one can be introspective and CHOOSE not to be blue pilled, if you are going to use appeal to nature to excuse yourself of being weak minded and not making any conscious effort to change, then you have to apply appeal to nature the same way to the actions of normies and women, so stop complaining about hypergamy then, because "they can't control the fact that they exclusively fuck Chad and have unrealistic standards"
We both know that's complete BS, if that was true the patriarchy would never have worked because women would rather die than be restricted to monogamy with a "lesser male"
You do have choice, just like normies, its just easier for you to give yourself a pass and not try to change your mindset, just like its easier for women to just tell themselves - "you can't help who you are attracted to" or "you can't help who you love", rather than exert conscious effort to be fair, realistic and understanding for the sake of society and men as a collective
In the past marriage was about joining two families together often for political reasons, or for reasons of ending feuds by joining two factions by having individuals from either side marry eachother, those people learned to love eachother, love isn't this deep sacred magical thing, its based on physical attraction, and as long as someone isn't absolutely hideous, if given enough time and effort, anyone can learn to love anyone
The argument that "we can't help ourselves" is complete blue pilled BS, you can stop feeling lonely, you can stop caring about companionship, etc
STOP CONFLATING PSYCHOLOGICAL WANTS WITH BIOLOGICAL NEEDS
A mindset can be changed, a physical craving cannot
One can stop craving attention, you can't stop craving food
Stop making BS arguments comparing the two as if they are the same, you know what you're saying is illogical
Anybody can get over anything that is psychological, and concepts like "validation + approval + acceptance" are psychological NOT BIOLOGICAL
I keep telling you guys, appeal to nature is a double edged sword, the entire point of the black pill as a concept, is that one can be introspective and CHOOSE not to be blue pilled
if you are going to use appeal to nature to excuse yourself of being weak minded and not making any conscious effort to change
so stop complaining about hypergamy then, because "they can't control the fact that they exclusively fuck Chad and have unrealistic standards"
if that was true the patriarchy would never have worked because women would rather die than be restricted to monogamy with a "lesser male"
You do have choice, just like normies, its just easier for you to give yourself a pass and not try to change your mindset
just like its easier for women to just tell themselves - "you can't help who you are attracted to" or "you can't help who you love", rather than exert conscious effort to be fair, realistic and understanding for the sake of society and men as a collective
In the past marriage was about joining two families together often for political reasons, or for reasons of ending feuds by joining two factions by having individuals from either side marry eachother, those people learned to love eachother, love isn't this deep sacred magical thing, its based on physical attraction, and as long as someone isn't absolutely hideous, if given enough time and effort, anyone can learn to love anyone
The argument that "we can't help ourselves" is complete blue pilled BS, you can stop feeling lonely, you can stop caring about companionship, etc
A mindset can be changed, a physical craving cannot
One can stop craving attention, you can't stop craving food
Anybody can get over anything that is psychological
and concepts like "validation + approval + acceptance" are psychological NOT BIOLOGICAL
Everything is conditional.Still doesn't exist, women don't love Chad, they love Chad genetics, no different than loving a man for his wealth really, only difference is the thing being judged is inherent to that persons body
Before:
After:
She never loved him, look at her face now that he's ugly as fuck, she loved his genetics, anyone who believes in love is extremely blue pilled, it doesn't exist as this magical thing like people speak of it, its biologically based, "unconditional love" is an oxymoron, of course there are conditions to something like that.