Serious What do you think the keyest difference is between generic masculinity and gangsta thug ratchet masculinity

[Pinpoint]

I think gangsta thug ratchet masculinity, they like to fight dirty and fuck eachother over on a constant basis, whereas general manliness doesn't have to prove power in the same way as high energy chimps. Generic masculinity is about being strong and silent/ reserved. Nig masculinity is about seeing how NOBODY ain't gonna challenge you if you act high energy and fuck ppl up. Like kid buu in dbz. And any system that's made to contain, a nig basically responds with no morals and shuts it down with the smallest iota of the danger/ threat comes by.


I mean a ghetto uncle of mine told me that anyone who is in any kind of competition, in real life or in a casino or anything would play fair. He knows too many people in the hood who are basically outspokenly proud about how generic masculinity honkies got fucked when tackling the hood, and ghetto people are happy to fight dirty cause that shows street masculinity over generic masculinity, and people who lived in environments less fucked up than theirs where being strong and silent was enough.

That's why ghetto people fight in the hood dirty, shows that the abuse they went through to give them no morals for anything except for getting all advantage in the physical world, and not even manliness. They're proud to have the only thing that nothing gives, no limits.

 

[Big Yikes]

Just stop being obsessed with masculinity and manliness. It's all so pathetic and BS.

Being pro-male =/= being pro-masculinity.

People who are pro-masculinity (=tradcucks and wahmen complaining about a lack of "real men") are always anti-male and believe in male disposability.

 

[Pinpoint]

Just stop being obsessed with masculinity and manliness. It's all so pathetic and BS.

Being pro-male =/= being pro-masculinity.

People who are pro-masculinity (=tradcucks and wahmen complaining about a lack of "real men") are always anti-male and believe in male disposability.

I am trying to find out so I can manipulate it for the incel cause stupid.

 

[Angry_runt]

Just stop being obsessed with masculinity and manliness. It's all so pathetic and BS.

Being pro-male =/= being pro-masculinity.

People who are pro-masculinity (=tradcucks and wahmen complaining about a lack of "real men") are always anti-male and believe in male disposability.

Matrioshka brain IQ

 

[Pinpoint]

And I LIED about what I said about my ghetto uncle. That's just an excuse for me to fight dirty, and I will also lie about all kinds of ghetto shit I've seen in the hood where I, myself, in my fake callbacks of being traditionally masculine got cheap shotted several times.

Matrioshka brain IQ

No he just stated the obvious.

 

[micropenis29]

The latter is just lower IQ than the former.

 

[Angry_runt]

No he just stated the obvious.

Matrioshka doll IQ

 

[Pinpoint]

The latter is just lower IQ than the former.

True but they operate off more primal instincts and you'd be surprised how much instinctive neuro-charging happens out of blacks in the hood constantly worrying about fucking eachother up, and fighting for a more extroverted high energy seat in the chimparchy.

Matrioshka doll IQ

keep trolling me bro, keep trollin

And I LIED about what I said about my ghetto uncle. That's just an excuse for me to fight dirty, and I will also lie about all kinds of ghetto shit I've seen in the hood where I, myself, in my fake callbacks of being traditionally masculine got cheap shotted several times.

As I will troll others.

 

[micropenis29]

True but they operate off more primal instincts and you'd be surprised how much instinctive neuro-charging happens out of blacks in the hood constantly worrying about fucking eachother up, and fighting for a more extroverted high energy seat in the chimparchy.

I should clarify that normal, non-black masculinity is also pretty low-IQ; most if not all of the most masculine men that I've ever come across are complete idiots (non-whites just tend to be the bigger idiots). They're still not as dumb as foids of course, but that's not saying much.

Masculinity past a certain point comes at the direct cost of being intelligent AFAICT.

 

[Pinpoint]

Time for another lie.
My cousin said I was gay for liking movies and he hates world war 2 history.
I asked my uncle why
"well mah boi, it's considered gay/ weak/ womanly for a dude to give a fuck about dramatic shit. In the hood our daddy used to teach us shit about how if u wanna take down a civilization u hire spies to lower prices then economy crumbles, in da ghetto if u deal with shit thats all dramastic n shit u a gay fag brah".

I should clarify that normal, non-black masculinity is also pretty low-IQ; most if not all of the most masculine men that I've ever come across are complete idiots (non-whites just tend to be the bigger idiots). Still not as dumb as foids of course, but that's not saying much.

Masculinity past a certain point comes at the direct cost of being intelligent AFAICT.

There's one nigger I knew who actually had a high iq and came from the slimy, "eat my cheap shots bitch not see this coming" that actually horrified me to my core. I had a lot more work to do before I intended to turn them against eachother and I found at least a good trajectory of thought patterns for me to mirror them.
Remember, they live within this shit. Imagine how much shit they know that's blackpilled (not too hard if they're ratchet from the hood) about sociobiology/ gestures/ how to tell a real nigga from a bitch. I mean lol. You can techincally be a scholar in a ghetto way that makes mogging them with conventional intellect damn near difficult.

 

[micropenis29]

Time for another lie.
My cousin said I was gay for liking movies and he hates world war 2 history.
I asked my uncle why
"well mah boi, it's considered gay/ weak/ womanly for a dude to give a fuck about dramatic shit. In the hood our daddy used to teach us shit about how if u wanna take down a civilization u hire spies to lower prices then economy crumbles, in da ghetto if u deal with shit thats all dramastic n shit u a gay fag brah".

There's one nigger I knew who actually had a high iq and came from the slimy, "eat my cheap shots bitch not see this coming" that actually horrified me to my core. I had a lot more work to do before I intended to turn them against eachother and I found at least a good trajectory of thought patterns for me to mirror them.

Yeah. This is who we're ultimately at war with--not just foids--but also low-IQ men in general, many of which are Tyrones.

 

[Pinpoint]

True but they operate off more primal instincts and you'd be surprised how much instinctive neuro-charging happens out of blacks in the hood constantly worrying about fucking eachother up, and fighting for a more extroverted high energy seat in the chimparchy.

keep trolling me bro, keep trollin

As I will troll others.

Remember if you want an excuse to do anything, do what foids do and say it's in response to being attacked, or traumatized by the toxic extremes of a demographic and then it's not far fetched. Jews do this too, a la holochaust

If you wanna say that you're not insecure then fabricate, but make as real as possible, some bullshit story about how you have a cousin who was insecure and did everything for attention and got raped by a half black 6'3 basketball player (then you can shit on ghetto ppl too, two birds one stone).
Say that you are not insecure because you saw how someone was insecure and it didn't do shit for them.
Makefake views about how insecurity plays into the people's hands and it's sick. LOL normies will buy it. then you can do anything while being suspected of insecurity even less, especially if you say this while in stride/ not putting a lot of thought but reflexive EMOTION behind it.

Yeah. This is who we're ultimately at war with--not just foids--but also low-IQ men in general, many of which are Tyrones.

Which is why being an incel is not just a dilemma with women, but the whole primal hierarchal canvas of mankind in general. I'm the only one smart enough putting this all together.
Tyrones are the orc warriors of warcraft for reality. And women are basically the principleless materialistic vampires of value, I.E. the harvesters from independence day, and Chad is the super inhabitable planet.
A mix of that, and, the flood. From Halo. And we are their hosts.

 

[based_meme]

Masculinity past a certain point comes at the direct cost of being intelligent AFAICT.

Can you please expand on this?

 

[Pinpoint]

Can you please expand on this?

I can.
Being masculine is about showing dominance with forward superiority, it's considered feminine and weak to do things that take strategy, finesse, etc. I mean a have a hick dad who thinks that real men don't play football anymore because the emphasis is on speed rather than having a running game with huge running backs/ running game heavy players.
I kid you not, they want just brute strength people, not finesseful in life.

This is why it's masculine to say "fuck off feminine fag" when a person is being nice, caring because it's masculine to be semicynical (out of being exposed to life) and no one would do that without having an ulterior motive.
Why it's masculine to not care about green-world because it's considered manly to focus only on the obvious and not the future.
Why it's masculine not to think about anything with strategy, thought, planning because a real man simply has no need for mind, he simply just lets life unfold before him because the implication is that life is not complex if you got muscles/ car/ power/ etc.
Of course rednecks deal with the complexities of life in the easiest/ breeziest possible way because even putting hteir mind to complexity is a chore, and path of least resistance is understandable.
Etc. etc.

Me personally I think it's good that masculinity gets dismantled so that we keep a closer watch on foids.
With any one of these fucked up aspects I can say my dad, or my uncle, etc. have them and that's why I do what I do, retalation of being attacked, and it will be understandable to the nu-male world today. Especially with the vacuum boomers left behind. It's a good sneak attack to use on unsuspecting millennials for compensatory, or dominance seizing behavior.

 

[based_meme]

Which is why being an incel is not just a dilemma with women, but the whole primal hierarchal canvas of mankind in general. I'm the only one smart enough putting this all together.

Not to steal your thunder or anything, but this is old news.

Incel or not, there's always going to be hierarchies and competition. There's even a hierarchy here on chads.co incels.co. People shit on greycels and point out join dates to establish dominance. The group, sphere, or realm matters not in the slightest.

Being male and having trash genetics makes it hardest, because you're starting from the literal bottom of the hierarchy.

 

[Pinpoint]

Not to steal your thunder or anything, but this is old news.

Incel or not, there's always going to be hierarchies and competition. There's even a hierarchy here on chads.co incels.co. People shit on greycels and point out join dates to establish dominance. The group, sphere, or realm matters not in the slightest.

Being male and having trash genetics makes it hardest, because you're starting from the literal bottom of the hierarchy.

It's not pronounced enough for me to even believe it's an underlying element here.
Of course you're trying to steal my thunder lol.

But yeah you're right, human beings are all thirsting for dominance, there is no side of good or evil. There is only power and those without it. But if you made that evident people would be too smart so Christianity, Leftism, etc. are there.
Higher Asian IQ means these things have less of an effect, so that's why China has never been religious, but more philosophical.
The East Asian (not south east) Asian gene is a dangerous, and cheaply distributed common gateway for going against the goy grain. I wonder if Jews have anything to do with China's decline soon.

 

[micropenis29]

Can you please expand on this?

Sure.

All else equal, the more intelligent someone is, the more he'll seek to reduce his exposure to risk. I.e. You're Chadlite and decide that your life is going extremely well, so you don't start riding a motorcycle with no helmet at 100 mph. It'd be fun but it's simply not worth the risk.

All else equal, the more masculine someone is, the more he'll seek to increase his exposure to risk. I.e. You're Tyronelite and decide your life is going extremely well, but "hey, fuggitt, riding a motorcycle with no helmet at 100 mph would make it slightly better because I'll mog all the Chadlites and I'm too dumb to understand that I'll probably crash and wreck my life".

Excessive masculinity feeds into misandry, which is the evolutionary dilemma at the root of inceldom and societal breakdown.

 

[Pinpoint]

Sure.

All else equal, the more intelligent someone is, the more he'll seek to reduce his exposure to risk. I.e. You're Chadlite and decide that your life is going extremely well, so you don't start riding a motorcycle with no helmet at 100 mph. It'd be fun but it's simply not worth the risk.

All else equal, the more masculine someone is, the more he'll seek to increase his exposure to risk. I.e. You're Tyronelite and decide your life is going extremely well, but "hey, fuggitt, riding a motorcycle with no helmet at 100 mph would make it slightly better because I'll mog all the Chadlites and I'm too dumb to understand that I'll probably crash and wreck my life".

Excessive masculinity feeds into misandry, which is the evolutionary dilemma at the root of inceldom and societal breakdown.

lol great one, my uncle dennis died that way after 2 years in jail from slapping his girlfriend's daughter of 8 down the stairs in 1999 where she broke her arm.
I think she may have died.

 

[Mrpvolts]

Nigga masculinity is simply just trying to kill someone who disagrees with you.

 

[based_meme]

Sure.

All else equal, the more intelligent someone is, the more he'll seek to reduce his exposure to risk. I.e. You're Chadlite and decide that your life is going extremely well, so you don't start riding a motorcycle with no helmet at 100 mph. It'd be fun but it's simply not worth the risk.

All else equal, the more masculine someone is, the more he'll seek to increase his exposure to risk. I.e. You're Tyronelite and decide your life is going extremely well, but "hey, fuggitt, riding a motorcycle with no helmet at 100 mph would make it slightly better because I'll mog all the Chadlites and I'm too dumb to understand that I'll probably crash and wreck my life".

Interesting analysis of masculinity as it relates to intelligence.

Masculinity, from what I can see, was not intended to be a feature borne of intelligence. It's a feature borne of instinct. You don't need intelligence to be a manly man, you just need high testosterone and the right genetics to compete.

You're analysis of intelligence serving to curb masculinity in order to reduce risk makes a lot of sense. You need masculinity in order to take risks (e.g., using violence for survival), but you need intelligence to reign it in so you don't take bad risks.

Excessive masculinity feeds into misandry, which is the evolutionary dilemma at the root of inceldom and societal breakdown.

You left us with this cliffhanger.

How is misandry fueled by masculinity the evolutionary dilemma at the root of inceldom and societal breakdown?

OK, suppose that you have a bunch of hyper-masculine, high test men who are hating each other because they're in constant competition with one another. Are you saying that it's exactly this competition that creates inceldom and the eventual societal collapse?

 

[based_meme]

It's not pronounced enough for me to even believe it's an underlying element here.
Of course you're trying to steal my thunder lol.

But yeah you're right, human beings are all thirsting for dominance, there is no side of good or evil. There is only power and those without it. But if you made that evident people would be too smart so Christianity, Leftism, etc. are there.
Higher Asian IQ means these things have less of an effect, so that's why China has never been religious, but more philosophical.
The East Asian (not south east) Asian gene is a dangerous, and cheaply distributed common gateway for going against the goy grain. I wonder if Jews have anything to do with China's decline soon.

The religious angle here is, I think, superfluous to the discussion about the relationship between masculinity and intelligence.

Do you think the decrease of typical masculinity generally seen in East Asia is attributed more to lower test or higher intelligence?

As an aside, I don't think the East Asians are more intelligent. I don't believe we have psychometric data to draw a tentative conclusion on that. School performance data isn't necessarily going to be indicative of a higher population intelligence, for cultural reasons. Their culture is certainly more oriented towards education and schooling, unlike the West's culture which orients itself more towards the arts (entertainment) and athletic endeavors.

 

[Deleted member 21714]

"Ghetto masculinity" is just low IQ combined with low impulse control and inability to solve conflicts based on reason

 

[Romello Gaghan 2]

Generic masculinity is white knighting by another name.
So called ghetto masculinity aka true masculinity is the sort of savagery that helped people survive in the paleo era.

Just stop being obsessed with masculinity and manliness. It's all so pathetic and BS.

Being pro-male =/= being pro-masculinity.

People who are pro-masculinity (=tradcucks and wahmen complaining about a lack of "real men") are always anti-male and believe in male disposability.

Male disposibility is a blackpill. You can choose not to accept it but that don't make it not so. Sperm far outnumbering the one egg, most dying trying to get to it, that sort of thing.
You can also choose to defy this fact by not being a white knight or a tradcuck like you said, which I hope you do.

 

[Righteous-Evil]

I suspect movies like the Fast and furious depict the albanians' world view and wish of how their world will end up looking like. When they are finished with their racemixing project. Minus the cars and action but including the fucked up hype attitude. Basically they want the whole world to become a third worldish south america. And including many travestie and traps.

There is a new music genre called trap-music which sounds like a tragic travesty and is loved by the rap community. World is getting sicker.

 

[Pinpoint]

The religious angle here is, I think, superfluous to the discussion about the relationship between masculinity and intelligence.

Do you think the decrease of typical masculinity generally seen in East Asia is attributed more to lower test or higher intelligence?

As an aside, I don't think the East Asians are more intelligent. I don't believe we have psychometric data to draw a tentative conclusion on that. School performance data isn't necessarily going to be indicative of a higher population intelligence, for cultural reasons. Their culture is certainly more oriented towards education and schooling, unlike the West's culture which orients itself more towards the arts (entertainment) and athletic endeavors.

you're always the one to come against me aren't you lol.
Religion is indeed a method of stopping people from knowing blackpill.
China and its people, mongoloids have a very cynical, insecure, nihilist outlook of life indefinitely.
Look at logistics, empirical evidence since media is too SJW to compile the truth in data.
Their culture is more geared towards dominance and power while low IQ masculinitard blacks and whites who live in a laidback arena of life are a disruption to healthy learning.