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Experiment What do you think about death?

Death.

  • It would come as a liberation to me, due to unhappiness

    Votes: 29 34.9%

  • I fear eternal oblivion

    Votes: 16 19.3%

  • I fear a hell or some other kind of suffering after death

    Votes: 13 15.7%

  • I cope by never thinking about it

    Votes: 8 9.6%

  • I like the idea of dying because I'm religious

    Votes: 2 2.4%

  • I like the idea of dying for other reason

    Votes: 4 4.8%

  • I am completely neutral (assuming this is possible)

    Votes: 11 13.3%
  • Total voters
    83
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Poll. Personally, I fear some form of torture after death. Here's my reasoning:

- This world contains injustice and suffering, ergo the universe can contain injustice and suffering.

- If there is a divinity ruling over us, it did not do enough to end unfair suffering, therefore it is probably powerless or evil.

- If we live in a simulation, our simulator could be sadistic or ready to perform unethical experiments, like most men who play video games.

- For all major religions, few will go to Heaven.
 
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I am not religious but i fear i may suffer after i die. I don't know with my luck hell migh exist....
 
Most of the time I yearn for it, for the sweet release. Nothingness is quite comforting.

But very rarely I might get a few seconds of remorse, maybe during one of those existential anxiety attacks I have. That's when I think about my parents, my regrets, all the time I've wasted.

But then I remember that I hate everyone and everything so I start yearning for death again.
 
I dont care about it to much.
If i die I die thats just it.
 
Would have selected a neutral option.
 
The eternal oblivion seems pretty comfy, but after reading Zyros's opinions he might have swept me over to the "aging and death are for cucks and we should avoid it with all means at our disposal" camp. Those are still moments of doubt, I generally still like the idea of death.
 
It's not death I fear, but the process of dying.

The idea of being in my 70s, in a hospital, dying of cancer, and not even being able to use the bathroom unassisted terrifies me. I also hate the idea of dying with the last moments of my life being in extreme pain.

That's why I want an ideal death. I've posted about this before, but my greatest dream is getting a girlfriend who wants to double suicide with me. We'd also ideally use a painless, calm suicide method. Sure, jumping off a bridge or tall building together sounds romantic, but the act of falling to my death....not so much.

I think using exit bags together while holding hands is ideal. I would sell myself into slavery for 20 years to have that.
 
death is the only fair thing in this world.
 
Eh, indifferent. I don't believe in the afterlife, as the various holy texts would describe it, for the simple reason that I do not believe in some sort of spiritual uniqueness in mankind. I don't see how such a thing would emerge evolutionarily, so I discard it wholly.
 
I'm not suicidal and am in no hurry to die, yet. But have decided that if I ever get a serious illness I'll let it take me. My future is about as bright as the centre of a blackhole, but am coping atm.
 
Going to try it soon.
 
Do you remember anything prior to your birth? That's death.
 
anon1822 said:
Most of the time I yearn for it, for the sweet release. Nothingness is quite comforting.

But very rarely I might get a few seconds of remorse, maybe during one of those existential anxiety attacks I have. That's when I think about my parents, my regrets, all the time I've wasted.

But then I remember that I hate everyone and everything so I start yearning for death again.
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Misanthropy and depression have the benefit of making you welcome death, it's true. They could be understood as coping mechanisms for death in a way.

Sometimes I kind of regret back when I used to be misanthropic and depressed, because I didn't fear death and actually liked the idea.

Now I spend way too much time thinking about it and anti-aging research.
 
It's the people who have it good that will suffer the most.
I have nothing to lose.
A good looking guy's body will rot the same as an ugly one's.
I suppose if you're Moslem, you'll get 72 virgins.
 
I am pretty sad but I still want to make the most out of life. I'll probably die a virgin, but I still want to buy my dream house and spend the rest of my life there. I also have a couple of poems and movie scripts in my mind that I want to work on. I'm not afraid of death, but I still won't kill myself.
 
I don't feel anything about death, I belive afterlife is a lie created by religious leaders to keep people in line. After death I will experience time in the same way I experienced it before my birth, nothing happens, no darkness no light. I believe consciousness goes away the same way the light goes away when a lightbulb dies, the bulb is there but the light is no longer radiated. I'm indifferent about it simply. I wish I could write this without coming off as an edgelord but oh well.
 
giganticel said:
Do you remember anything prior to your birth? That's death.
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Aka the Epicurus argument. Epicurus was an atheist, though. His argument didn't admit the existence of a soul and couldn't admit the possibility of a universe that is a computer simulation. The simulation hypothesis is terrifying because that means someone kept logs on everything you did. And it's not that far-fetched an idea.
 
Fontaine said:
Misanthropy and depression have the benefit of making you welcome death, it's true. They could be understood as coping mechanisms for death in a way.

Sometimes I kind of regret back when I used to be misanthropic and depressed, because I didn't fear death and actually liked the idea.

Now I spend way too much time thinking about it and anti-aging research.
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Anti-aging research? That's one of those things that you get really into for a while, learn as much as you can, then just go into waiting mode. Until one day you realize, that like many other promises of the future, it's all lies and exaggerations.
 
Horrifying tbh, this life is kinda gay but eternal oblivion seems a whole lot worse. Today I had the extremely unpleasant experience of playing a first-person video game and realising that, if some rich tosspot and his descendants decided to keep ferrying the save file along through multiple custom-made 2010s hard drives after the one before started to fail, a little virtual person who lives in a disk could outlive me and is in theory "immortal" (doesn't have subjective experience and was never alive to begin with, but is still less fragile and mortal than me despite being code in a computer jfl). The dude on my screen can always die, but he will respawn and I have him backed up on a 2tb hard disk under my bed. Meanwhile I am sitting in my chair, my clock is ticking every second, and when I die I will not respawn or be carried on.

The only thing worse than eternal oblivion would be frying in Hell for all of eternity, and even then you might grow accustomed to the pain after sitting in a fire for millions of years.
 
Fontaine said:
Poll. Personally, I fear some form of torture after death. Here's my reasoning:

- This world contains injustice and suffering, ergo the universe can contain injustice and suffering.

- If there is a divinity ruling over us, it did not do enough to end unfair suffering, therefore it is probably powerless or evil.

- If we live in a simulation, our simulator could be sadistic or ready to perform unethical experiments, like most men who play video games.

- For all major religions, few will go to Heaven.
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That´s a great reasoning, but logic doesn´t have metaphysical consequences, none that we can assume anyways
 
anon1822 said:
Anti-aging research? That's one of those things that you get really into for a while, learn as much as you can, then just go into waiting mode. Until one day you realize, that like many other promises of the future, it's all lies and exaggerations.
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I tend to agree with your general premise, however it's not completely hopeless right now. Big money is finally flowing into it and various drugs are already in phase I trial. But I agree the full conquest of aging will take far more time than expected by techno optimists.
 
I'm afriad of dying a virgin and all the things i never got to experience
 
jerrycan dan said:
Horrifying tbh, this life is kinda gay but eternal oblivion seems a whole lot worse. Today I had the extremely unpleasant experience of playing a first-person video game and realising that, if some rich tosspot and his descendants decided to keep ferrying the save file along through multiple custom-made 2010s hard drives after the one before started to fail, a little virtual person who lives in a disk could outlive me and is in theory "immortal" (doesn't have subjective experience and was never alive to begin with, but is still less fragile and mortal than me despite being code in a computer jfl). The dude on my screen can always die, but he will respawn and I have him backed up on a 2tb hard disk under my bed. Meanwhile I am sitting in my chair, my clock is ticking every second, and when I die I will not respawn or be carried on.

The only thing worse than eternal oblivion would be frying in Hell for all of eternity, and even then you might grow accustomed to the pain after sitting in a fire for millions of years.
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Based, agree completely.

The vulnerability of biological systems is horrible. A stone, a painting or a usb stick can retain information far longer than those who create it. Those who don't see this as an engineering problem to be solved are either very religious or big copers.

I'm nevertheless quite persuaded that the contemporary transhumanist movement is going to fail. Musk, Kurzweil, Page, Brin, Ellison, Bezos, etc: if they don't all die by the end of this century, that would truly be a miracle on par with Jesus' return.

The worst is that the next transhumanist movement may succeed once we're all dead. We might be, from a certain perspective, the unluckiest men in history. Kurzweil has probably realized this, hence why he obstinately wants to believe he'll make it.
 
Fontaine said:
The simulation hypothesis is terrifying because that means someone kept logs on everything you did. And it's not that far-fetched an idea.
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And what would they possibly do with these logs? Read through them and send you to heaven or hell? Why would they give a shit about a random simulated person? This is like Roko's basilisk, a terrifying realization that ceases to be terrifying when you ponder "What's the point of them doing this?"
 
I think a lot about death. The thought of my parents dying is frightening because; then, I will be truly alone. They're already in their 50s.
 
tulasdanslos said:
And what would they possibly do with these logs? Read through them and send you to heaven or hell? Why would they give a shit about a random simulated person? This is like Roko's basilisk, a terrifying realization that ceases to be terrifying when you ponder "What's the point of them doing this?"
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You have a point.

Both simulation and divine hypotheses are unsatisfying for this reason: why would any extremely intelligent being care about us
 
I mostly fear that i will not find happines after death
 
Fontaine said:
Based, agree completely.

The vulnerability of biological systems is horrible. A stone, a painting or a usb stick can retain information far longer than those who create it. Those who don't see this as an engineering problem to be solved are either very religious or big copers.

I'm nevertheless quite persuaded that the contemporary transhumanist movement is going to fail. Musk, Kurzweil, Page, Brin, Ellison, Bezos, etc: if they don't all die by the end of this century, that would truly be a miracle on par with Jesus' return.

The worst is that the next transhumanist movement may succeed once we're all dead. We might be, from a certain perspective, the unluckiest men in history. Kurzweil has probably realized this, hence why he obstinately wants to believe he'll make it.
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Seems like a pretty big engineering problem when emulating the human brain is copy-paste, not cut-paste. You could emulate your brain on a supercomputer after scanning all of your neurons and still fade into oblivion once your meatbag body dies. I'm not an expert but I'm pretty sure you'd need some meme shit like a moravec transfer to actually save you, and even then when you've computerised all human consciousness eventually why not discard less efficient brain emulations for higher IQ computer models?
 
I cannot tell why I am so obsessed with death. I suppose it's the result of spending so long imagining I would commit suicide soon, but even then, the degree to which it is on my mind, in all situations, across all feelings, its incredible.
I fear it more than any suffering and horrors that life may hold, and yet I desire it more than any pleasure or comforts that life has to offer me.
Without stop I envision what could come after death, how I will pass, when it will happen, if or not I should kill myself, just how many others have died, who will go next..
My mind is like a boundless, planet-spanning graveyard which only grows wider, more tombstones rising from the ground each day and night, on which is engraved descriptions of every death a human could know, and all that pertained to it. A place I am cursed to wander, it seems.
I cannot answer the poll, since all but the 4th and 5th apply to me.
 
jerrycan dan said:
Seems like a pretty big engineering problem when emulating the human brain is copy-paste, not cut-paste. You could emulate your brain on a supercomputer after scanning all of your neurons and still fade into oblivion once your meatbag body dies. I'm not an expert but I'm pretty sure you'd need some meme shit like a moravec transfer to actually save you, and even then when you've computerised all human consciousness eventually why not discard less efficient brain emulations for higher IQ computer models?
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Brain emulation / mind upload isn't the only way to solve the problem of death. Another way is simply to keep body tissues young and healthy, as long as possible, and improve the physical safety of the body.

Normies and cucks always like to discuss brain emulation as a "gotcha! You see, immortality is impossible"... If half of them even know about moravec transfers and ships of theseus, it's already great.

I agree that down the line, humans will fuse with computers into irrelevance. Kind of a progressive suicide. But some primitive reptilian drives will probably be retained by most.

Forum debates in 2318 might oppose those who have deleted drives like "love" from their brain to those who want to retain them. "You'll lose your humanity and become a monster" might be the SJW meme of 2318.
Gremlincel said:
I cannot tell why I am so obsessed with death. I suppose it's the result of spending so long imagining I would commit suicide soon, but even then, the degree to which it is on my mind, in all situations, across all feelings, its incredible.
I fear it more than any suffering and horrors that life may hold, and yet I desire it more than any pleasure or comforts that life has to offer me.
Without stop I envision what could come after death, how I will pass, when it will happen, if or not I should kill myself, just how many others have died, who will go next..
My mind is like a boundless, planet-spanning graveyard which only grows wider, more tombstones rising from the ground each day and night, on which is engraved descriptions of every death a human could know, and all that pertained to it. A place I am cursed to wander, it seems.
I cannot answer the poll, since all but the 4th and 5th apply to me.
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Reads like XIXth century Romantic poetry. You have lots of literary talent.
 
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I'm extremely afraid of dying and try to not think about it too much.
 
Spider-Man said:
Why are you afraid? Just wondering
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Because I want to live. To survive is, besides procreation, our only purpose in life.
Right now, I cannot really imagine what it will be like to face death because it seems so far away, but when I'm like 60, I think I won't be able to enjoy life since death would be so close.
After death, there will be nothing. My existence will just be vanished and forgotten while life for all others will go on.
 
most ppl who voted the first option are larpers.
 
I consider afterlife a high possibility. Or before life because time doesn't exist.
 
Ryo_Hazuki said:
It's not death I fear, but the process of dying.

The idea of being in my 70s, in a hospital, dying of cancer, and not even being able to use the bathroom unassisted terrifies me. I also hate the idea of dying with the last moments of my life being in extreme pain.

That's why I want an ideal death. I've posted about this before, but my greatest dream is getting a girlfriend who wants to double suicide with me. We'd also ideally use a painless, calm suicide method. Sure, jumping off a bridge or tall building together sounds romantic, but the act of falling to my death....not so much.

I think using exit bags together while holding hands is ideal. I would sell myself into slavery for 20 years to have that.
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Sounds like you want to MaxLinderMax.
Death is inevitable. I try to live to live with as few regrets as possible. The only issue is some of my plans will take time to come into fruition which is frustrating. One must use their time wisely.
 
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Death would be a liberation. Stopping to cope every day and putting an end to job begging sounds inviting. I hope there's nothing afterwards, though. I don't believe in heaven, given how fucked up is this world.
 
I obviously want to die. I'm pretty sure there's nothing after death. But sometimes I suspect that there's something but that we could not have even guessed through thousands of years of religion and philosophy. Something absolutely unexpected, no matter what you believe. Like the films After Life or Mind Game, or Gantz (anime) but much worse. That scares me tbh.
 
I believe there is oblivion after death but my fear is that it's hell instead. I'd much rather live as an incel than be in hell, though this would also depend on what kind of hell it is
 
what if fast forward to the future if we're still living, transhumanism could be a thing and enables us immortality?
 
I am not afraid of dying, and I do not fear the process of death. I'm excited and soothed by the idea that, one day, my body will decompose into the earth.

 
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