What are your thoughts on Adolf Hitler?

[Deleted member 1546]

He seems to be more popular here than most places on the internet. Trying to survey opinions on him can be hard because of each individual's nuanced opinions of the man. I decided to offer a somewhat simplified poll. 

As a refresher here are some historically verified facts about him 

Positives 

• Wasn't an incel
• Opposed degeneracy
• Hated communism 
• Loved children, animals, nature
• Man of God

Negatives 

• Lost his greatest battle(WW2)
• Somewhat of a statist
• Forced to use oppression to varying degrees when pushed

 

[lifefuel]

Great man

 

[Solitarian_Walker]

hERo.

 

[/pol/cel]

Adolf Hitler was the last avatar of Kalki and the final chance of escaping the Kali Yuga. Fucking Jews just had to kill him.

 

[Tempus Edax Rerum]

Positive.

History, as any real researcher will be able to tell you, has been sanitized in order to present the facts, myths, and overarching worldview most convenient for the so-called powers that be. This should be a pragmatic, if not novel proposition, given that those who have power will obviously desire to retain that power.

 

[Melinda]

The world would be a better place if he managed to exterminate all jews.

 

[modus_coperandi]

Considering the fact that a huge part of my family died fighting for him my thoughts on him are mostly negative.

 

[Deleted member 1546]

Great man

True

I also forgot to mention he was great amateur painter! 

[img=1092x813]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Adolf_Hitler_Der_Alte_Hof.jpg[/img]

 

[/pol/cel]

True

I also forgot to mention he was great amateur painter! 

[img=1092x813]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Adolf_Hitler_Der_Alte_Hof.jpg[/img]

A brutal blackpill is that his works of art were considered inferior to early forms of grotesque postmodernist kike art.

 

[Ryo_Hazuki]

Positives 

• Wasn't an incel

• 
  
  World leaders are never incel.

 

[whogivesafucc]

Totally positive. All of the people who actually knew him said he was a great man. You can't blame him for losing when just about the entire world saw him as one of the most evil leaders the world has ever seen, courtesy of (((them)))

 

[Deleted member 1546]

Totally positive. All of the people who actually knew him said he was a great man. You can't blame him for losing when just about the entire world saw him as one of the most evil leaders the world has ever seen, courtesy of (((them)))

Its been well established that the USA, USSR, UK, French, and Chinese government were all controlled by Jews or Jewish connected interests.

 

[whogivesafucc]

Totally positive. All of the people who actually knew him said he was a great man. You can't blame him for losing when just about the entire world saw him as one of the most evil leaders the world has ever seen, courtesy of (((them)))

Its been well established that the USA, USSR, UK, French, and Chinese government were all controlled by Jews or Jewish connected interests.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oO0_1oS_oU

 

[overlystinkypants]

tortured innocent people so fuck him

 

[Deleted member 776]

Its been well established that the USA, USSR, UK, French, and Chinese government were all controlled by Jews or Jewish connected interests.

I distrust/dislike the jews as much as anyone. I don't see how they controlled the Soviet government. The lack of control the jews had over them partly motivated the cold war. The Soviets supplied Israels enemies for years. I hate communists as much as anyone does but the whole reason for the downfall of Hitler was attacking the one nation who didn't want a war with him...

 

[/pol/cel]

Its been well established that the USA, USSR, UK, French, and Chinese government were all controlled by Jews or Jewish connected interests.

If you take into consideration what Hitler was up against he put up one hell of a fight. As a country Germany looksmaxxed and economymaxxed like hell before becoming a chadlite and fistfighting 5 actual Chads to death.

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I distrust/dislike the jews as much as anyone. I don't see how they controlled the Soviet government. The lack of control the jews had over them partly motivated the cold war. The Soviets supplied Israels enemies for years. I hate communists as much as anyone does but the whole reason for the downfall of Hitler was attacking the one nation who didn't want a war with him...

There is strong evidence that the upper echelons of Soviet leadership were all occupied by Jews. All the top butchers of the NKVD were all Jews.

 

[NutNotBusted]

He was a chill dude

 

[Homosapicuckus]

I wasn't born when he was on his power. All I know about him is what the far liberal owned history tells what to think. I'm not even 100% positive on the existence of holocaust given there's no proof that any gas chambers were used in any concentration camps I guess it's mostly a lie, fabricated, agenda driven.

 

[Deleted member 1546]

There is strong evidence that the upper echelons of Soviet leadership were all occupied by Jews. All the top butchers of the NKVD were all Jews.

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Stalin actually undid that and created a kind of "goy communism". Before 1927 much of the Soviet communist part were Jewish or had some Jewish ancestry but that was phased out. There was also something called the "Doctor's plot" which Stalin was planning for but he died first. Supposedly he was really going to let the Soviet Jews have it.

One of the reasons for the cold war was that Jewish Trotskyists either rejected communism out of disillusion and wanted to destroy communism. Essentially they have created a right wining international Trotskyism. Others became neocons or became covert Marxists pretending to be conservatives. The whole purpose of the Cold war from the West was that the ex-Trotskyists believed in global revolution. Stalin believed in "socialism in one country". The spread of Soviet communism was a threat to real socialism in the minds of the Trotskyists. He also believed in a Jewish state as well and in addition to Israel offered a small piece of land in Siberia to the Jews who survived WW2 and the "holocaust" as an autonomous community.

So the Trotskyists believed that true communism could only ever be achieved if Stalinism was defeated. Both Stalin and Trosky believed themselves to be the legitimate heirs to Leninism and the internal struggle had been going on ever since. Its why neocons believe in free trade and wars to install democracies in places like Iraq and Libya. They want to create a world without nations so the international proletariat can unite and have one mass global revolution. The USSR and the Warsaw pact were considered impediments as are the few remaining communist countries like China and Cuba. Ever since Stalin most communist countries were at least somewhat nationalistic and the Jewish Trotskyists hated that. Jews in the those nations went from being kings to being treated like anyone else.

In my opinion the majority of these people are actually anti-Communist who have created a right wing Trotskyism most neocons are Jewish and believe in smaller government. I think it is more likely they are spreading the liberal democratic/capitalist global revolution that then the communist one.

 

[Deleted member 776]

I have a mostly negative opinion of Hitler.

When he attacked the Soviet Union he handed half of Europe to the communists and strengthened the Bolsheviks immeasurably. The fact it would be another 40 years until Communism fell is his fault. The Soviet Union went from a complete basket case to fielding one of the deadliest armies ever to walk the earth not 2 years later and emerging as a world super power.

Also gassing the Jews was a terribly bad idea. For a start, just in terms of logistics. Germany was at war with nations with a massive advantage in man power and the worlds largest economy and it decides to consume enormous resources gassing some 11 million people when that was valuable labour? Even if you just wanted them gone it would have probably been much easier to deport them to the Balkans, the middle east and north Africa. Also waging a near genocidal campaign against local soviet populations in eastern Europe who had been brutalised by the Soviet government in the interwar years when for better treatment a lot would have maybe joined the grand crusade against communism. It almost seemed like he wanted to loose. It forced a lot of these populations to defend the very thing they hated.

 

[grayjedi90]

My grandparents lived through hitlers rise to power, ww2 and the aftermath. They say the holocaust happened but the winning powers hugely exaggerated the scale of it to shame germans.

But the one thing i will never forget is what my grandma told me.

You may think of him what you want but there was no man who united the german people like him. Never have i seen the german people that united even now after the fall of the berlin wall it's no comparison to the past.

 

[/pol/cel]

Stalin actually undid that and created a kind of "goy communism". Before 1927 much of the Soviet communist part were Jewish or had some Jewish ancestry but that was passed out. 

One of the reasons for the cold war was that Jewish Trotskyists either rejected communism out of disillusion and became neocons or became covert Marxists pretending to be conservatives. The whole purpose of the Cold war from the West was that the ex-Trotskyists believed in global revolution. Stalin believed in "socialism in one country". 

So they believed that true communism could only ever be achieved if Stalinism was defeated. Its why neocons believe in free trade and wars to install democracies in places like Iraq and Libya. They want to create a world without nations so the international proletariat can unite and have one mass global revolution. The USSR and the Warsaw pact were considered impediments as are the few remaining communist countries like China and Cuba. Ever since Stalin most communist countries were at least somewhat nationalistic and the Jewish Trotskyists hated that. Jews in the those nations went from being kings to being treated like anyone else.

Im aware of the whole internal civil war within the USSR between Stalinites and Trotskyites but I always thought Jews called the shots even under Stalin. A lot of people think that thats why he was killed.

 

[Deleted member 776]

There is strong evidence that the upper echelons of Soviet leadership were all occupied by Jews. All the top butchers of the NKVD were all Jews.

Generally anyone in any kind of important position didn't last long. Stalin used people until they were a threat to him and either sent them into obscurity or "non personed" them or had their subordinates "suicide" them. Even Beria eventually got taken off and shot after Stalin died. Although my guess is it would have been sooner or later anyway. Stalin was planning a new purge when he died.

 

[/pol/cel]

I have a mostly negative opinion of Hitler.

When he attacked the Soviet Union he handed half of Europe to the communists and strengthened the Bolsheviks immeasurably. The fact it would be another 40 years until Communism fell is his fault. The Soviet Union went from a complete basket case to fielding one of the deadliest armies ever to walk the earth not 2 years later and emerging as a world super power.  

Also gassing the Jews was a terribly bad idea. For a start, just in terms of logistics. Germany was at war with nations with a massive advantage in man power and the worlds largest economy and it decides to consume enormous resources gassing some 11 million people when that was valuable labour? Even if you just wanted them gone it would have probably been much easier to deport them to the Balkans, the middle east and north Africa. Also waging a near genocidal campaign against local soviet populations in eastern Europe who had been brutalised by the Soviet government in the interwar years when for better treatment a lot would have maybe joined the grand crusade against communism. It almost seemed like he wanted to loose. It forced a lot of these populations to defend the very thing they hated.

I think this whole gassing the Jews thing is a meme. There was no deliberate extermination of Jews. Jews were put into labor camps where they died from typhus and starvation caused by German supply lines being bombed by the Allies. Also Hitler actually was flirting witj the idea of giving Jews their own land look up the Haavara Agreement. I hate this muh six million meme.

 

[nausea]

I distrust/dislike the jews as much as anyone. I don't see how they controlled the Soviet government. The lack of control the jews had over them partly motivated the cold war. The Soviets supplied Israels enemies for years. I hate communists as much as anyone does but the whole reason for the downfall of Hitler was attacking the one nation who didn't want a war with him...

do you believe germany could have won in the east?

 

[RealestFakecel]

get a ruined germany in 1933 and left it even worse at 1945

 

[Deleted member 1546]

get a ruined germany in 1933 and left it even worse at 1945

By the end, basically the entire planet was at war against Germany. That wasn't Hitler's fault and there was basically no way one nation could fight 3 super powers plus a bunch of lesser powers. The cards were stacked against him by the (((dealers))).

 

[blackpill_incel]

Hitler had great ideas and pulled his country out of the depression

 

[RealestFakecel]

get a ruined germany in 1933 and left it even worse at 1945

By the end, basically the entire planet was at war against Germany. That wasn't Hitler's fault and there was basically no way one nation could fight 3 super powers plus a bunch of lesser powers. The cards were stacked against him by the (((dealers))).

so hitler invading russia and bombing london isn´t hitler fault? lmao

the entire planet was against hitler because hitler decided to declared war against all planet

 

[iiiTeMpeR]

Jesus the amount of nazicels her is crazy

 

[/pol/cel]

Jesus the amount of nazicels her is crazy

National Socialism and Fascism are objectivly superior to (((Liberal Democracy))).

 

[modus_coperandi]

A brutal blackpill is that his works of art were considered inferior to early forms of grotesque postmodernist kike art.

"Amateur". The Vienna art academy should have let him in tbh. He mogged the shit out of today's graduates from the Rhode Island School of Design (best art school of the world).

 

[modus_coperandi]

True

I also forgot to mention he was great amateur painter! 

[img=1092x813]https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/Adolf_Hitler_Der_Alte_Hof.jpg[/img]

[font=Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif]"Amateur". The Vienna art academy should have let him in tbh. He mogged the shit out of today's graduates from the Rhode Island School of Design (best art school of the world).[/font]

 

[Deleted member 1546]

Jesus the amount of nazicels her is crazy

[video=youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=15&v=mYc65UHJMx8[/video]

How can you not be these days?

 

[Akarin]

Great man with big and honorable ambitions but he forgot that irl is not Hearts of Iron and he won't conquer the whole world. Should've start with Russia and go west only if he had beaten Stalin.

 

[CopingGymcel]

World leaders are never incel.

That's all about to change.

 

[theultimate341]

tortured innocent people so fuck him

 

[edgein]

tortured innocent people so fuck him

jews.. innocent

 

[TheIncelPill]

The worst thing he did was he failed. Plenty of world leaders have committed just as bad, if not worse crimes, than The Big H. Stalin, Mao...Genghis Khan was the most violent warlord in all of history up to that point, but nobody will ever accuse you of being a Khan Apologist.

Hitler got ROFLstomped by a geopolitical gangbang, largely due to personal incompetency. So the only people who respect him are borderline-Incel Neo Nazis who think the Big Black Cock is stealing their white women.

 

[overlystinkypants]

jews.. innocent

if you think only jews suffered from nazis then you're either brainwashed by jews or don't have even the basic knowledge about nazism in which case you shouldnt form opinions on that matter.

 

[ironcrusher38]

Eugenism=end of incel sufferings
Fighting against Weimar degenerates=God's work
Fight against Jews=Burden of humanity
I think positive about him. He was a black pilled guy.

 

[GunnaSecure]

inceltears is going to have a fucking field day with this thread.

 

[Deleted member 776]

do you believe germany could have won in the east?

Yes. The overall strategic plan as directed by Hitler was stupid.

No consideration of logistics.
Moscow and Leningrad were a worthless objective.
They were all for maneuver warfare until it came to capturing cities and then they weren't.
Declaring war on the United states.
Not coordinating with Japan or promising soviet territory in the far east to keep the Siberian red army divisions tied up.
Hitler ordering combat capable and mobile units to "fight to the death" instead of breaking out of encirclement.
German equipment wasn't best suited to the weather.

The overall plan of the 6th army was to capture the Soviet Unions oil reserves centered around the Caspian sea and the port of Baku in what is now Azerbaijan. That was a very solid plan. Given the vast land area of the Soviet Union and all the factories and mines it had out of bombing range of the Luftwaffe seizing its oil reserves was probably the only way the Germans had to take them out of the war, the Germans were also critically lacking in oil reserves, some of the only ones they had were in Romania. The Germans were a little late to realising this. They then engaged in a blood letting exercise fighting for Stalingrad instead of bypassing it. Hitler and the retards at OKW sat round with their thumbs up their arses while the Soviets launched a counter attack and encirclement of the 6th army and lost 300,000 of their best troops for no gain. He also believed that useless morphine addict Guhring and his promises of air supply even though this retard had already been humiliated by defeat during the battle of Britain.

Then shortened the war even more by attacking an obvious trap even though they had a great deal of success at the tail end of Soviets operation Uranus when Von Manstein was finally allowed to act and was able to stablise the front by launching small counter attack and encirclement operations and blunting the Soviet offensives. They cost valuable time to stablise their logistical situation by attacking the Kursk salient so soon. They might have gained months to build up their own defensive posture waiting for the Soviets to actually attack and sent some of their best troops to the Italian front even though the collapse of the Italian 8th army got them surrounded in the first place.


In short. Victory was achievable but they went about it in the worst way possible.

 

[Deleted member 1546]

Yes. The overall strategic plan as directed by Hitler was stupid.

No consideration of logistics.
Moscow and Leningrad were a worthless objective.
They were all for maneuver warfare until it came to capturing cities and then they weren't.
Declaring war on the United states.
Not coordinating with Japan or promising soviet territory in the far east to keep the Siberian red army divisions tied up.
Hitler ordering combat capable and mobile units to "fight to the death" instead of breaking out of encirclement.
German equipment wasn't best suited to the weather.

The overall plan of the 6th army was to capture the Soviet Unions oil reserves centered around the Caspian sea and the port of Baku in what is now Azerbaijan. That was a very solid plan. Given the vast land area of the Soviet Union and all the factories and mines it had out of bombing range of the Luftwaffe seizing its oil reserves was probably the only way the Germans had to take them out of the war, the Germans were also critically lacking in oil reserves, some of the only ones they had were in Romania. The Germans were a little late to realising this. They then engaged in a blood letting exercise fighting for Stalingrad instead of bypassing it. Hitler and the retards at OKW sat round with their thumbs up their arses while the Soviets launched a counter attack and encirclement of the 6th army and lost 300,000 of their best troops for no gain. He also believed that useless morphine addict Guhring and his promises of air supply even though this retard had already been humiliated by defeat during the battle of Britain.

Then shortened the war even more by attacking an obvious trap even though they had a great deal of success at the tail end of Soviets operation Uranus when Von Manstein was finally allowed to act and was able to stablise the front by launching small counter attack and encirclement operations and blunting the Soviet offensives. They cost valuable time to stablise their logistical situation by attacking the Kursk salient so soon. They might have gained months to build up their own defensive posture waiting for the Soviets to actually attack and sent some of their best troops to the Italian front even though the collapse of the Italian 8th army got them surrounded in the first place.


In short. Victory was achievable but they went about it in the worst way possible.

Hindsight is 20/20

 

[nausea]

Yes. The overall strategic plan as directed by Hitler was stupid.

No consideration of logistics.
Moscow and Leningrad were a worthless objective.
They were all for maneuver warfare until it came to capturing cities and then they weren't.
Declaring war on the United states.
Not coordinating with Japan or promising soviet territory in the far east to keep the Siberian red army divisions tied up.
Hitler ordering combat capable and mobile units to "fight to the death" instead of breaking out of encirclement.
German equipment wasn't best suited to the weather.

The overall plan of the 6th army was to capture the Soviet Unions oil reserves centered around the Caspian sea and the port of Baku in what is now Azerbaijan. That was a very solid plan. Given the vast land area of the Soviet Union and all the factories and mines it had out of bombing range of the Luftwaffe seizing its oil reserves was probably the only way the Germans had to take them out of the war, the Germans were also critically lacking in oil reserves, some of the only ones they had were in Romania. The Germans were a little late to realising this. They then engaged in a blood letting exercise fighting for Stalingrad instead of bypassing it. Hitler and the retards at OKW sat round with their thumbs up their arses while the Soviets launched a counter attack and encirclement of the 6th army and lost 300,000 of their best troops for no gain. He also believed that useless morphine addict Guhring and his promises of air supply even though this retard had already been humiliated by defeat during the battle of Britain.

Then shortened the war even more by attacking an obvious trap even though they had a great deal of success at the tail end of Soviets operation Uranus when Von Manstein was finally allowed to act and was able to stablise the front by launching small counter attack and encirclement operations and blunting the Soviet offensives. They cost valuable time to stablise their logistical situation by attacking the Kursk salient so soon. They might have gained months to build up their own defensive posture waiting for the Soviets to actually attack and sent some of their best troops to the Italian front even though the collapse of the Italian 8th army got them surrounded in the first place.


In short. Victory was achievable but they went about it in the worst way possible.

another big mistake was the way they dealt with the occupation of ukraine, the nazis were too much ideological and instead of giving full decision-making power to the generals in the field of operation , Hitler and his entourage wanted full control over every move 

like, the ukranians were super fed up with the soviets and acclaimed the germans as liberators, instead the nazis cucked themselves big time enforcing their racial-supremacy straight away instead of priorityzing the strategic aspects ( supply lines etc )

why did they make such completely moronic decision, I still do not understand...

 

[Its_OVER]

He gassed the mentally ill and the socially undesirables aka incels, not a fan.

 

[FiliumExMachina]

Obvious historical context aside, he seemed like an interesting man. I would have loved to meet him and have a beer with him or something, just to see what he was like.

 

[Deleted member 2119]

Adolf Hitler ist ein Hurensohn

 

[opsec]

I would greet his throat with a knife if i could. expirimented on my great grandmother when she was a child. everything he created was an unislamic portal of destruction and death. each economic policy of his relied on the suffering of innocent people. he killed for the wrong reasons.

 

[nausea]

expirimented on my great grandmother when she was a child

what do you mean?