What are your political views brocels? (poll)

[Deleted member 31630]

i am too incompetent to even know the difference between types of political ideas.

 

[PPEcel]

Neoliberal elitism

 

[BodyFat10orRope]

high IQ but I disagree a bit: I think far right parties are for people who has faith in society and wants it to improve, and are thus incompatible with the honkpill. instead, i dont even bother to go vote, but if i did, i'd vote for left wing parties, bc I enjoy the way they give handouts to lazy people at the expense of hard working idiots

I'm conservative but I don't have any faith in voting or 98% of people.

 

[CleverJester]

I'm a Satanist but what you described is kind of what it is, you got the idea.

I don't get the idea. What's a satanist? What do you believe in that is satanic?

 

[Darkenzo]

I don't get the idea. What's a satanist? What do you believe in that is satanic?

'Satanism is a modern, largely non-theistic religion based on literary, artistic and philosophical interpretations of the central figure of evil. It wasn’t until the 1960s that an official Satanic church was formed by Anton LaVey.'

That's him there. You know Kane from Command and Conquer?



Definitely a resemblance.

 

[CleverJester]

'Satanism is a modern, largely non-theistic religion based on literary, artistic and philosophical interpretations of the central figure of evil. It wasn’t until the 1960s that an official Satanic church was formed by Anton LaVey.'

Satanism exist since thousands of year. I get it, this 60's Satanic church is joodaism for gentiles.

That's him there. You know Kane from Command and Conquer?
Definitely a resemblance.

"My favorite video-game character is satanist so i am"

 

[Darkenzo]

Satanism exist since thousands of year. I get it, this 60's Satanic church is joodaism for gentiles.

"My favorite video-game character is satanist so i am"

No it's a real thing.

“Love is one of the most intense feelings felt by man; another is hate. Forcing yourself to feel indiscriminate love is very unnatural. If you try to love everyone you only lessen your feelings for those who deserve your love. Repressed hatred can lead to many physical and emotional aliments. By learning to release your hatred towards those who deserve it, you cleanse yourself of these malignant emotions and need not take your pent-up hatred out on your loved ones.”
― Anton Szandor LaVey,

“When a Satanist commits a wrong, he realizes that is it natural to make a mistake―and if he is truly sorry about what he has done, he will learn from it and take care not to do the same thing again. If he is not honestly sorry about what he has done, and knows he will do the same thing over and over, he has no business confessing and asking forgiveness in the first place.”
― Anton Szandor LaVey

 

[Deleted member 24726]

Socially Far-right and Economically socialist with some libertarian-esque values.

 

[CleverJester]

No it's a real thing.

“Love is one of the most intense feelings felt by man; another is hate. Forcing yourself to feel indiscriminate love is very unnatural. If you try to love everyone you only lessen your feelings for those who deserve your love. Repressed hatred can lead to many physical and emotional aliments. By learning to release your hatred towards those who deserve it, you cleanse yourself of these malignant emotions and need not take your pent-up hatred out on your loved ones.”
― Anton Szandor LaVey,

“When a Satanist commits a wrong, he realizes that is it natural to make a mistake―and if he is truly sorry about what he has done, he will learn from it and take care not to do the same thing again. If he is not honestly sorry about what he has done, and knows he will do the same thing over and over, he has no business confessing and asking forgiveness in the first place.”
― Anton Szandor LaVey

These quotes have no link whatsoever with satanism, especially for the first one.
For the second one you could replace the word "Satanist" with any other hedonistic/"not my fault" kind of ideology.
These are random quotes just to sell satanism (or i got them wrong?). I tried to learn twice from a real satanist like you, i read your posts several times but that's what i thought and i'm gonna drop the act. Satanism is joodaism. How can you explain this?

 

[Darkenzo]

These quotes have no link whatsoever with satanism, especially for the first one.

Quotes from the Satanic Bible you can read the whole thing for free here. It's really good. There are more books on it than just that but it's where you start.

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For the second one you could replace the word "Satanist" with any other hedonistic/"not my fault" kind of ideology.

It is but not in quite the traditional sense, it's a little similar similar to the hedonism of the Epicureans from ancient Greece, you enjoy things in moderate way.

“The wealth required by nature is limited and is easy to procure; but the wealth required by vain ideals extends to infinity.”
― Epicurus

“Not what we have But what we enjoy, constitutes our abundance.”
― Epicurus

This kind of hedonism is good. Like Epicureanism it warns against overindulgence and compulsion. Not really a million miles from what all the other religions teach really.

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No it's comparable to something like Buddhism and Taoism, there's no God involved at all.

 

[CleverJester]

Quotes from the Satanic Bible you can read the whole thing for free here. It's really good. There are more books on it than just that but it's where you start.

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It is but not in quite the traditional sense, it's a little similar similar to the hedonism of the Epicureans from ancient Greece, you enjoy things in moderate way.

“The wealth required by nature is limited and is easy to procure; but the wealth required by vain ideals extends to infinity.”
― Epicurus

“Not what we have But what we enjoy, constitutes our abundance.”
― Epicurus

This kind of hedonism is good. Like Epicureanism it warns against overindulgence and compulsion. Not really a million miles from what all the other religions teach really.



No it's comparable to something like Buddhism and Taoism, there's no God involved at all.

The quotes are high IQ(can't read need an account) that's a fact but i don't see any links whatsoever with satanism (the devil).
These quotes highlight some kind of moderate hedonism and nihilism (no god involved?) i would guess, satanism is edgy too. That kind of religion attract the best; emo teenagers. But satanism wasn't created 60 years ago but thousands of years ago and it's joodaism. For all of these reasons this kind of satanism seem to be a cash-grab religion to me, you could identify yourself as being atheist as well.

 

[Darkenzo]

The quotes are high IQ(can't read need an account) that's a fact but i don't see any links whatsoever with satanism (the devil).

Satan just means "accuser" or "adversary" it doesn't necessarily mean the Devil. Jesus calls one of Peter a Satan at one point for instance. He didn't literally mean Peter was the Devil, it was a figure of speech at the time.

'Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns." '

Much of it is about taking what the Bible teaches and turning it on it's head or twisting it to something more valid/useful, so that's really why it's called Satanism. It does use the Devil and demons as imagery but that's more to portray the true/dual nature of man and/or for fun.

'The "seven deadly sins" of the Christian church are greed, pride, envy, anger, gluttony, lust, and
sloth. Satanism advocates indulging in each of these "sins", as they all lead to physical, mental, or
emotional gratification. A Satanist feels there is nothing wrong with being greedy, as it only means
that he wants more than he already has. Envy simply means to look with favor upon the possessions
of others and to be desirous of obtaining similar things for oneself. Envy and greed are the
motivating forces of ambition, and without ambition very little of any importance would be
accomplished.'

Full text of "The Satanic Bible.pdf (PDFy mirror)"

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But satanism wasn't created 60 years ago but thousands of years ago and it's joodaism. For all of these reasons this kind of satanism seem to be a cash-grab religion to me, you could identify yourself as being atheist as well.

There were very similar philosophies and beliefs in the ancient past and in certain other cultures (there was something similar in Hinduism) Satanism is just the most modern incarnation of that school of thought (left hand path). Quite a few Satanists are just atheists messing around/play acting but there is a bit more to if you dig a little further. I wouldn't say Anton LaVey himself was a straight forward atheist either if you really look at what he wrote, he drew upon various other sources. Aleistar Crowley for instance was a strong influencer for him.

Satanism is a cash grab, but they're honest about it. If you want to join officially the CoS it's a one off payment of $200 for instance. But this is cheaper than a 15% tithe of your income as certain other religions would have you do, you pay upfront. Other religions are also business intended to turn a nice profit.

Anton LaVey — 'Satan has been the best friend the church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all these years!'

'Satan in the 19th Century​

The last half of the 19th century saw a resurgence in the view of Satan as anti-hero. This was thanks to works like Italian poet Giosuè Carducci’s anti-papal “Hymn To Satan” and William Blake’s illustrations for Paradise Lost in 1888.

In his own book The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, Blake presented Satan as a messiah. Around the same time, Theosophical Society founder Madame Blavatsky wrote about Satan as a commendable insurgent offering humans wisdom.


Artists in the Decadent movement like Félicien Rops placed Satanic imagery in paintings, influenced by writers like Baudelaire and Poe. Satan was also employed in writings from socialist leaders like Mikhail Bakunin and Karl Marx.

Polish author Stanisław Przybyszewski wrote two books about Satan in 1897, one fiction and one non-fiction. Przybyszewski’s Satan was an anarchist with a comprehensive philosophy that was similar to modern Satanism. Przybyszewski’s young acolytes called themselves Satan’s Kinder.

Aleister Crowley​

Legendary occultist Aleister Crowley viewed Satan symbolically. His 1913 poem “A Hymn to Lucifer” celebrated the Devil as the provider of soul and rebellion to the universe. Crowley’s ideas were influential in Satanism.

One offshoot from Crowley’s crowd was the German group Fraternitas Saturni in 1926. Its founder Gregor A. Gregorius wrote Satanische Magie, which borrowed heavily from the Romantics and adopted Satan within the group’s astrological system. Fraternitas Saturni still exists and Gregorius’ writing has been used in Satanist practice.

Anton Lavey​

Sometime between 1957 and 1960, Anton Lavey, a former carnival worker and musician, held night classes in the occult. Regular attendees eventually formed the Church of Satan.

These sessions were mostly discussion-based but on April 30, 1966, the group formalized as the Church of Satan and the meetings became more ritual-based, incorporating theatrics, costuming and music. Lavey became known as the Black Pope.'

 

[CleverJester]

Satan just means "accuser" or "adversary" it doesn't necessarily mean the Devil. Jesus calls one of Peter a Satan at one point for instance. He didn't literally mean Peter was the Devil, it was a figure of speech at the time.

'Jesus turned and said to Peter, "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me; you do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns." '

Much of it is about taking what the Bible teaches and turning it on it's head or twisting it to something more valid/useful, so that's really why it's called Satanism. It does use the Devil and demons as imagery but that's more to portray the true/dual nature of man and/or for fun.

'The "seven deadly sins" of the Christian church are greed, pride, envy, anger, gluttony, lust, and
sloth. Satanism advocates indulging in each of these "sins", as they all lead to physical, mental, or
emotional gratification. A Satanist feels there is nothing wrong with being greedy, as it only means
that he wants more than he already has. Envy simply means to look with favor upon the possessions
of others and to be desirous of obtaining similar things for oneself. Envy and greed are the
motivating forces of ambition, and without ambition very little of any importance would be
accomplished.'

Full text of "The Satanic Bible.pdf (PDFy mirror)"

archive.org

There were very similar philosophies and beliefs in the ancient past and in certain other cultures (there was something similar in Hinduism) Satanism is just the most modern incarnation of that school of thought (left hand path). Quite a few Satanists are just atheists messing around/play actingI wouldn't say Anton LaVey himself was a straight forward atheist either if you really look at what he wrote, he drew upon various other sources. Aleistar Crowley for instance was a strong influencer for him.

Satanism is a cash grab, but they're honest about it. If you want to join officially the CoS it's a one off payment of $200 for instance. But this is cheaper than a 15% tithe of your income as certain other religions would have you do, you pay upfront. Other religions are also business intended to turn a nice profit.

Anton LaVey — 'Satan has been the best friend the church has ever had, as he has kept it in business all these years!'

'Satan in the 19th Century​

The last half of the 19th century saw a resurgence in the view of Satan as anti-hero. This was thanks to works like Italian poet Giosuè Carducci’s anti-papal “Hymn To Satan” and William Blake’s illustrations for Paradise Lost in 1888.

In his own book The Marriage of Heaven and Hell, Blake presented Satan as a messiah. Around the same time, Theosophical Society founder Madame Blavatsky wrote about Satan as a commendable insurgent offering humans wisdom.


Artists in the Decadent movement like Félicien Rops placed Satanic imagery in paintings, influenced by writers like Baudelaire and Poe. Satan was also employed in writings from socialist leaders like Mikhail Bakunin and Karl Marx.

Polish author Stanisław Przybyszewski wrote two books about Satan in 1897, one fiction and one non-fiction. Przybyszewski’s Satan was an anarchist with a comprehensive philosophy that was similar to modern Satanism. Przybyszewski’s young acolytes called themselves Satan’s Kinder.

Aleister Crowley​

Legendary occultist Aleister Crowley viewed Satan symbolically. His 1913 poem “A Hymn to Lucifer” celebrated the Devil as the provider of soul and rebellion to the universe. Crowley’s ideas were influential in Satanism.

One offshoot from Crowley’s crowd was the German group Fraternitas Saturni in 1926. Its founder Gregor A. Gregorius wrote Satanische Magie, which borrowed heavily from the Romantics and adopted Satan within the group’s astrological system. Fraternitas Saturni still exists and Gregorius’ writing has been used in Satanist practice.

Anton Lavey​

Sometime between 1957 and 1960, Anton Lavey, a former carnival worker and musician, held night classes in the occult. Regular attendees eventually formed the Church of Satan.

These sessions were mostly discussion-based but on April 30, 1966, the group formalized as the Church of Satan and the meetings became more ritual-based, incorporating theatrics, costuming and music. Lavey became known as the Black Pope.'

Now i get why Kane looks like Anton Lavey (Kane-Cain)
I dunno what to say i'm completely IQ mogged tbh

Artists in the Decadent movement like Félicien Rops placed Satanic imagery in paintings, influenced by writers like Baudelaire and Poe. Satan was also employed in writings from socialist leaders like Mikhail Bakunin and Karl Marx.

Polish author Stanisław Przybyszewski wrote two books about Satan in 1897, one fiction and one non-fiction. Przybyszewski’s Satan was an anarchist with a comprehensive philosophy that was similar to modern Satanism. Przybyszewski’s young acolytes called themselves Satan’s Kinder.

All these people with fake russian names sounds really (((fishy)))
Karl marx has a significant juicy ancestry for example.

but there is a bit more to if you dig a little further.

You dug up way further than me but you weren't aware (?) that original satanism was in fact joodaism.

 

[rope2cope]

Anti-Negroid Party.

 

[Darkenzo]

You dug up way further than me but you weren't aware (?) that original satanism was in fact joodaism.

If you really want to go into the origins of Satanism you go can back to' Lucifer' who was the Roman god of Enlightenment or the "Light Bearer" associated with the Morning Star/Venus. So it's 100% completely Pagan though strongly influenced by Christianity and Secular Humanism.

'Lucifer, (Latin: Lightbearer) Greek Phosphorus, or Eosphoros, in classical mythology, the morning star (i.e., the planet Venus at dawn); personified as a male figure bearing a torch, Lucifer had almost no legend, but in poetry he was often herald of the dawn.'

"Lucifer, ( Latin: Lightbearer) Greek Phosphorus, or Eosphoros, in classical mythology, the morning star (i.e., the planet Venus at dawn); personified as a male figure bearing a torch" Source: Encyclopedia Brittanica


"the torches represent the occult arts and sciences, the doctrines and dogmas by the light of which Truth is made visible." [Hall, Freemasonry of the Ancient Egyptians to Which Is Added an Interpretation of the Crata Repoa Initiation Rite , Los Angeles, The Philosophers Press, 1937, p. 122; Emphasis added]

The Torch: Symbol of Lucifer "The Lightbearer"

"Lucifer, ( Latin: Lightbearer) Greek Phosphorus, or Eosphoros, in classical mythology, the morning star (i.e., the planet Venus at dawn);...

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[Mainländer]

I'm a minarchist. I'm for laissez-faire capitalism with a patriarchal Christian societal attitude that prevents abusive corporations. Also no big corporations joining with the state shit, the state should only protect borders and hang violent criminals.