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Discussion What amount of muscle do foids care about?

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I saw one study that showed that they like a lean muscular fizeek that really isn't big at all and they preferred that over the largest fizeek. Does anyone have eny evidence as to what is around the amount they want? I know lifting is a cope btw. But it can boost your rating by a fraction and this adds up with other stuff like clearing up acne and hairstylemaxxing
 
cheekbones and jawmuscles
 
they don't care for roided huge gym bodies they just want you to have a physique similar to them. skinny guys with thin emo girls, avg guys with avg beckies, fat guys usually have fat gfs.
 
If they care about muscles, only about those in one's face.
 
They don't care about muscle. I saw a normie who had the most beautifully carved perfect physique on discord and all the foids ignored him and gave attention to a literal crossdressing femboy.
 
Good face, Otherwise its over for you!
 
They don't care about muscle. I saw a normie who had the most beautifully carved perfect physique on discord and all the foids ignored him and gave attention to a literal crossdressing femboy.
Cage. That's why I say it increases your rating by a fraction of 1 or something like that.
 
they don't care for roided huge gym bodies they just want you to have a physique similar to them. skinny guys with thin emo girls, avg guys with avg beckies, fat guys usually have fat gfs.
I think having a little muscle helps but it really isn't going to make a big difference
 
If he was attractive they won't even care if he is a crossdresser. They might even find it "cute"
he didn't say "good looking guy wearing female clothes" he said "femboy" and femboys are complete subhumans
 
Just be tall and facially attractive no one gives a fuck
Some shoulder muscle can make it look like you have better been structure than you really do. But at that point you might be too muscular for what women like
 
he didn't say "good looking guy wearing female clothes" he said "femboy" and femboys are complete subhumans
He might have still been a pretty boy or something. Or a high tier normie/chadlite
 
Life mostly about bones not muscles
 
You won't get too Big Even with roids. You might get too fat. Someone like David laid had top tier genetics, you Will never get Even 50% of his muscularity.
Worry More about how fat you are
 
You won't get too Big Even with roids. You might get too fat. Someone like David laid had top tier genetics, you Will never get Even 50% of his muscularity.
Worry More about how fat you are
David laid is a fake natty. You can get too big without roids but it isn't something to worry about. I wouldn't care if i got massive I actually want that even if it makes me less attractive
 
I saw one study that showed that they like a lean muscular fizeek that really isn't big at all and they preferred that over the largest fizeek. Does anyone have eny evidence as to what is around the amount they want?
Go observe couples and pay attention to human interaction and draw your own conclusions - don't trust self-reporting studies, flawed methodologies.

I know lifting is a cope btw. But it can boost your rating by a fraction and this adds up with other stuff like clearing up acne and hairstylemaxxing
What do you mean by cope here?
I thought copes were meant to be non-beneficial distractions from a cursed fate.

Lifting, even if often over-emphasized, does create at least slight improvements for you. It's only a cope if you view it as solving more problems than it actually will - something I often do.
 
David laid is a fake natty. You can get too big without roids but it isn't something to worry about. I wouldn't care if i got massive I actually want that even if it makes me less attractive
Uhh no, Im saying that David laid roided and still wasnt too big. You arent going to bench 4 plates at 200 lbs as natty. Ergo, you cant Be too big.
 
They have different preferences that are arrayed across a spectrum but in my experience, the older foids get, the more they tend to prefer more heavily muscled bodybuilder type guys whereas the young cunts have a penchant for the type of lean muscle mass of which you speak. Also, this is heavily modulated by cultural considerations and the poorer and more rural foids want big, buff men while the urban and suburban foids want ripped guys with abs and care less about heavy mass. And this is coming from a guy who has been gymmaxxing for over twenty years.
 
They have different preferences that are arrayed across a spectrum but in my experience, the older foids get, the more they tend to prefer more heavily muscled bodybuilder type guys whereas the young cunts have a penchant for the type of lean muscle mass of which you speak. Also, this is heavily modulated by cultural considerations and the poorer and more rural foids want big, buff men while the urban and suburban foids want ripped guys with abs and care less about heavy mass. And this is coming from a guy who has been gymmaxxing for over twenty years.
Thanks for the advice. I'm in an urban area and before I hurt my back the general population considered me to be buff. I just gotta get back to that and I'll be good. My back is better now but I've only been training pullups due to a shoulder issue. But im going to physical therapy tomorrow
 
Thanks for the advice. I'm in an urban area and before I hurt my back the general population considered me to be buff. I just gotta get back to that and I'll be good. My back is better now but I've only been training pullups due to a shoulder issue. But im going to physical therapy tomorrow
Yeah I hear you brocel. I've had some recent injuries (strained bicep, tendonitis, recurring back pain, etc.) and they have considerably impacted my lifts and overall performance. Obviously, getting adequate rest is the most dispositive consideration when avoiding these sorts of injuries. And also, I should have added that if you're in a nigger-dominated urban area, then actually being heavily muscled is construed as aesthetically pleasing since it confers upon you the sort of status that you would have if you were putting up some massive lifts in the prison yard where the niggers from the streets eventually end up anyways.
 
Yeah I hear you brocel. I've had some recent injuries (strained bicep, tendonitis, recurring back pain, etc.) and they have considerably impacted my lifts and overall performance. Obviously, getting adequate rest is the most dispositive consideration when avoiding these sorts of injuries. And also, I should have added that if you're in a nigger-dominated urban area, then actually being heavily muscled is construed as aesthetically pleasing since it confers upon you the sort of status that you would have if you were putting up some massive lifts in the prison yard where the niggers from the streets eventually end up anyways.
Yeah if you got muscle the nigs will be more likely to leave you alone. I'm in a white area but it helps when I'm in college since my college is mostly nons.
 
Yeah if you got muscle the nigs will be more likely to leave you alone. I'm in a white area but it helps when I'm in college since my college is mostly nons.
I at least have some gains from the pullups. I managed to get to 25 which is just one rep more than I had at my peak but I'm still smaller from not training my push muscles. It should come quick once i start training them again since it took me around 4 months to go from just barely not being a dyel to being considered buff by people
 
Yeah if you got muscle the nigs will be more likely to leave you alone. I'm in a white area but it helps when I'm in college since my college is mostly nons.
Agreed and paradoxically, if you live in a very redneck and white trash area, having large muscle size has almost the same effect in generating respect as it does if you were living amongst the negros in a niggeropolis type setting, despite the fact that the white trash and niggers hate eachother, they tend to coalesce around this one variable anyways. Probably because they are all similar brute animals.
 
Agreed and paradoxically, if you live in a very redneck and white trash area, having large muscle size has almost the same effect in generating respect as it does if you were living amongst the negros in a niggeropolis type setting, despite the fact that the white trash and niggers hate eachother, they tend to coalesce around this one variable anyways. Probably because they are all similar brute animals.
I guess it is because the areas are more violent. Foids in both areas still aren't gonna care about your muscle tho
 
Muscle can give the illusion of better bone structure
 
I guess it is because the areas are more violent. Foids in both areas still aren't gonna care about your muscle tho
I live in one of the most redneck, backwoods, inbred and Trumpistan areas of the US midwest and can say that it is extremely peaceable compared with the nigger infested cities of America so I think its actually the crudeness of the people, their lack of intellectual sophistication and their reliance on physical prowess to accomplish everyday tasks such as pushing wheelbarrows like the peasants they are or, in the case of niggers, beating each other to death in the streets.
 
They do not care about pumped up huge muscles or some shit like that. they want you to have a naturally masculine physique. Big skeleton, naturally V shaped, masculine hight T muscle/fat ratio and of course a chad face with a big chin and hunter eyes.

This is what they want:
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normies trying to compensate, just lol:
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Yeah its kind of water but you do not want to be too big, especially as manlet that will just give the over compensator look.
Its lean but muscular and not too veiny either.

Although I think an important aspect that no one has mentioned yet is the core area.
My physique right now is pretty good everywhere except the core so it will not look that great to a foid because of that.
In part I have not trained the core which is my fault but I also have anterior pelvic tilt/lumbar lordosis and I have no idea how to fix it. Because of this my spine curves inward and makes my gut stick out more than it actually would.
 
Yeah its kind of water but you do not want to be too big, especially as manlet that will just give the over compensator look.
Its lean but muscular and not too veiny either.

Although I think an important aspect that no one has mentioned yet is the core area.
My physique right now is pretty good everywhere except the core so it will not look that great to a foid because of that.
In part I have not trained the core which is my fault but I also have anterior pelvic tilt/lumbar lordosis and I have no idea how to fix it. Because of this my spine curves inward and makes my gut stick out more than it actually would.
No foid gives a shit about your core area. Lmfao...
 
I saw one study that showed that they like a lean muscular fizeek that really isn't big at all and they preferred that over the largest fizeek. Does anyone have eny evidence as to what is around the amount they want? I know lifting is a cope btw. But it can boost your rating by a fraction and this adds up with other stuff like clearing up acne and hairstylemaxxing
They don't care about muscle they care about height and face attractiveness. I'm a stereotypical manlet I know what I'm talking about. Of course, it does help with your own confidence. And I notice I get less disrespected and bullied when I could bench press my own weight.
 
The dick muscle
 
They don't care about muscle lmao
 
No foid gives a shit about your core area. Lmfao...
They care because the absence of a good core looks like shit, if u have a stomach that juts out a little like mine its an instant turn off
 
They don't care about muscle. I saw a normie who had the most beautifully carved perfect physique on discord and all the foids ignored him and gave attention to a literal crossdressing femboy.
Normally a good physique comes with a good face. good facial genetics usually implies better genetics overall
 
Normally a good physique comes with a good face. good facial genetics usually implies better genetics overall
That's not how genetics work. Someone can have a great face and be short, or be tall and have ugly looks.
 
Bone structure > muscles
 
That's not how genetics work. Someone can have a great face and be short, or be tall and have ugly looks.
Ofc that’s not a rule genetics follow or how genetics works but usually attractive people have good frame. Good frame in fact makes someone more attractive most of the time. However there are definitely exceptions.
 

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