IDK I would say mid/late 20s
17 or 18
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how old are you? are you in uni?
it was 13 for me
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has been a downhill since I was 11
ignore the fuckers above, it generally starts going downhill at 19-20, then gets worser when ur 25-28
The "downhill" part starts in your teens, as soon as you notice girls are into other guys but not you.
The real question is, when does it start getting easier?
To which I would reply, mid 30s is when you start to actually accept that a partner and a family and etc etc isn't going to happen for you, (or else it would have by now.) Really accepting that that isn't in your future, which is different than desperately wanting those things and being afraid that some chance is still there but slipping away.
By then you should also be statusmaxxing in some way with a bit of work seniority or whatever. Which is no substitute but it does allow you to cope in comfort.
The real question is, when does it start getting easier?
To which I would reply, mid 30s is when you start to actually accept that a partner and a family and etc etc isn't going to happen for you, (or else it would have by now.) Really accepting that that isn't in your future, which is different than desperately wanting those things and being afraid that some chance is still there but slipping away.
By then you should also be statusmaxxing in some way with a bit of work seniority or whatever. Which is no substitute but it does allow you to cope in comfort.
13, worst year of my life
looks and health generally after 25.
Puberty fucks everything
As a 30 year old KHHV, I can attest to that
the existential dread has always been there but it’s now that it really becomes an all consuming despair. You can literally feel how little your copes make a difference in your life
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what is your story? mine is lame I basically pissed away my youth rotting on my laptop in uni. (I did go through some unrelated trauma as a kid so maybe that plays a role). I should have at least tried dating in uni. Its AMAZING how FAST life shits the bed post uni. I was delusional and I thought: "oh one day I will get some friends/maybe a woman" lol I was retarded back then. The MALE wall is REAL mgtows are full of shit about the female wall. The wall for men is like 22/23!
fuck just 1 year (I am 24) Why the fuck does the human body shit the bed at 25? Can't we at LEAST have until 30? Or were we meant to have kids at like 17-21? and mid 20's is actually the biological wall.
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when I hit puberty I descended hard because I got terrible terrible acne, gyno, skinnyfat, and just had a horrible time in high school. I never properly developed “confidence” or proper social experiences in middle or high school so now that I’m a young adult I have no fucking clue what I’m doing, no friends no matter I try, don’t really know how to interact with girls (they don’t find me that attractive anyway), and just generally sort of fucked socially. I have a job, I workout sometimes twice a day in the gym, I eat fruit for snacks and chicken and rice 3-4x a day, I am looksmaxxing with tretinoin, finasteride for hair, I dress best I can and all this but I simply am not mentally equipped with the right baggage to partipate socially. I also just don’t have any opportunities to learn. I literally live in my room and try every day to go out but I just get so lonely walking around, so I just stay in my room and go to the gym daily because it’s normal to gym by yourself and I don’t feel weird doing it.
I don’t like watching movies where the main character falls in love with a woman because it makes me sad, I literally just gym and listen to music and try and work on stuff to make my life better but it never does anything.
im a very bored and lonely person, and I have been since I was young. Hurts man, hurts.
I don’t like watching movies where the main character falls in love with a woman because it makes me sad, I literally just gym and listen to music and try and work on stuff to make my life better but it never does anything.
im a very bored and lonely person, and I have been since I was young. Hurts man, hurts.
it varies but it's been a general downhill trend since 16 or so
YES @Edmund_Kemper
(BTW gonna start college soon? RUSH A FRAT TRY TO DATE MAKE FRIENDS it is your LAST CHANCE My friend! once you leave the pearly gates of uni it is OVER! DON"T BE ME! I PISSED away my youth rotting on my laptop in uni just like @anon1822 did.
(BTW gonna start college soon? RUSH A FRAT TRY TO DATE MAKE FRIENDS it is your LAST CHANCE My friend! once you leave the pearly gates of uni it is OVER! DON"T BE ME! I PISSED away my youth rotting on my laptop in uni just like @anon1822 did.
Appearancewise? I think I started to deteriorate at around 28, however little sleep for years might have contributed to it. Overall? Well, it depends on how much you are on a path to achieving financial independence or a high paying job, I guess at 25 you are on the way of learning if you did the right career choice and if you are at least on a plausible path to have a high income when you hit your 30s.
My natural appearance, I think, peaked at 22 or 23, while my best appearance ever was when I was 15 due training and building muscle. I should had kept training as it would had been interesting to see how much I would had looksmaxxed if I had a trained body at 23.
Those that say 15 or so are teencels that have no idea what they are saying. Aging does not start until the late 20s or even 30s for some.
My natural appearance, I think, peaked at 22 or 23, while my best appearance ever was when I was 15 due training and building muscle. I should had kept training as it would had been interesting to see how much I would had looksmaxxed if I had a trained body at 23.
Those that say 15 or so are teencels that have no idea what they are saying. Aging does not start until the late 20s or even 30s for some.
My physical prime was 21 JFL. (i am 24) (however some crazy chinese lady 6 months ago said I look young like I am in highschool so IDK).
That is a nice thing, mate. At 23 I began to foolishly freak out about getting older, if at 24 you are being told that you look like a teen I would take it as a compliment.
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25 for me. I was pretty happy until 25. Bluepilled bliss. In the last few years I have noticed that my copes dont work as much.
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Yeah I’m going late I’m gonna be 24. This is my last chance it’s now or never
yep I am your age. ACT NOW! don't end up like me on obscure forums. frankly i am envious of you. i was an idiot and pissed away my youth at uni on my laptop. but I still hope for the best for you
(incels are like prisoners even if we know we will never escape, we HOPE one of our brocels WILL!)amen, as incelmatic says: "all copes run out"
16, but then it absolutely plummets once you leave education.
early teens is when is starts
the wall for men is 22 post uni. what crack are mgtow/redpill guys smoking? I was stupid and coped thinking (oh when I am 30 I have time) NO YOU DON"T if you are in uni YOUR TIME IS NOW OR NEVER!
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It’s the age where your metabolism begins slowing down.
It’s the age where your metabolism begins slowing down.
10 for me
no I would say 22 is the age (post uni its GAME OVER!) if you did not have friends in uni you WIN a LIFETIME supply of INDEFINITE isolation yay!
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The beginning of puberty, obviously.
12-13, puberty is a death sentence
Birth
As a man it starts going downhill as soon as you hit 18.
Because you're a man you're supposed to be constantly generating value and improving your self, because a mans worth is determined by the value he creates for society.
I wasted my early late teens and early 20s, so you can feasibly still turn it around by late 20s. Don't know about 30s though, maybe if you have a bachelors by then you could still be ok.
Because you're a man you're supposed to be constantly generating value and improving your self, because a mans worth is determined by the value he creates for society.
I wasted my early late teens and early 20s, so you can feasibly still turn it around by late 20s. Don't know about 30s though, maybe if you have a bachelors by then you could still be ok.
For incels the moment you are born.
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it doesn't matter for those who were cursed
it's a timeless macroscale never ending inward spiral of suffering
it's a timeless macroscale never ending inward spiral of suffering
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at 14 I developed OCD so my mental state started declining seriously
at 16 I started ldar，my education performance plummeted
at 21 my looks hit the wall，before that I wasn't handsome but still looked decent
at 25 my physical health began to decline，I began to feel the sadness of aging
at 16 I started ldar，my education performance plummeted
at 21 my looks hit the wall，before that I wasn't handsome but still looked decent
at 25 my physical health began to decline，I began to feel the sadness of aging
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Birth.
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Looks wise 25+
Looks wise 25+
my story somewhat smiliar but I will explain when I get home
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