I used to think it was 20 but actually I think it should be way before. Like, if I had given up when I was 15, it wouldn't have made any difference. It could've saved me lots of humiliation and suffering, that's for sure.
14, because is the age where all normies have kissed, if you haven’t kissed at 14 or after it, it’s most likely it’s over
20 for most people I would think.
I think if you are an incel, it's probably in the womb, but we don't know how bad it is until we are the ones thinking of roping.
I think if you are an incel, it's probably in the womb, but we don't know how bad it is until we are the ones thinking of roping.
I gave up on everything at the age of 22.
I actually think 33 is when you give up. 27 is when most people have their physical bodies start to decline, their metabolism, their energy, their testosterone, ect... 33 is when the mind starts declining, your memory, how fast you think, how sharp you are, ect... Unfortunately since foids love experienced men, if you haven't gotten a foid before 18, your chances of getting a foid are pretty low. But that doesn't mean, you still can't wealth maxx, and be happy in monk mode. By 33, if you aren't at least 25% complete, on whatever your goal is for wealth maxxing, good job, or starting your own good business, or accepted into a good university for good career, you're going to have a harder time succeeding, with your slowly declining mental abilities if you haven't achieved in your prime.
I was always thinking 20. Now I would say 18. I have given up just now, being 22. Rope at 25, till then, moneymaxxing to cause financial problems to society (atleast to few members of it)
Inceldom: 18, Careermaxxing: mid 30s.
I’m 22 brutal. I haven’t given up yet. I’m trying this one last thing to ascend. I’m social circle maxxing.
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Good luck as it's even harder now.
Facebook barely got started when I gave up, there were a few dating places that weren't so picky like eharmony and match where now every bitch wants a 6'+ asshole, girls didn't dress like whores every where you go, and so much more.
If I did not give up then, I might've gone ballistic in the later years as I've seen things gotten worse since I gave up.
At least during that age, I could've gotten to foids and was allowed to have them reject me, but now you have to worry on the fucking bitch calling you for rape and sexual harassment whether you do it in real life or online if she hates how you look and feel insulted if you even tried talking to her.
I seriously wish you luck as more is against you at this point and time.
Mid to late 20s is where it starts getting pretty hopeless IMO
There are some late bloomers who lose their virginity in their early 20s, but beyond that still being a virgin is going to raise a lot of eyebrows.
There are some late bloomers who lose their virginity in their early 20s, but beyond that still being a virgin is going to raise a lot of eyebrows.
If you have zero experience at 18 it isn't completely over, but the chances are high and you will never fully recover from your lonely years and lack of experience
If you fail to find unpaid sex or a relationship in your early 20s it's pretty damn over and even if you do ascend after it won't be the same
If you reach 30 and become a wizard you are pretty much fucked unless you can pull a landwhale
If you fail to find unpaid sex or a relationship in your early 20s it's pretty damn over and even if you do ascend after it won't be the same
If you reach 30 and become a wizard you are pretty much fucked unless you can pull a landwhale
When you leave high school, although midway through it you should know where you stand.
I would say College if we're going by level of schooling. College lacks any kind of parental supervision and everyone is horny. If you go through college and come out a virgin on the other end, it's probably over.
College is overrated, if you are that left high school as a KHHV, then college is not going to be much better. And anyway, it's not like parents are holding incels back in anyway unless you have helicopter parents who don't let you go out.
Lots of people have helicopter parents. That's why I wouldn't consider High School as good of a measure as College. Many of those "late bloomers" who get laid for the first time in College are just people who had overprotective parents in high school who wouldn't let them go out.
College is really the ultimate test of inceldom. Zero parental supervision. Everyone is horny. Everyone wants to get laid. If you can't get anything in that environment, you're probably a cel.
College is really the ultimate test of inceldom. Zero parental supervision. Everyone is horny. Everyone wants to get laid. If you can't get anything in that environment, you're probably a cel.
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if everything is bad at ur late 20s just give up
Maybe so, in which case it should become apparent by 1st year of university whether or not you should put any effort into this pursuit
Fraternities and sororities recruit all the stacies, beckies, chads, and chadlites the first year. You will know pretty quickly where you stand.
Mid to late 20s is where it starts getting pretty hopeless IMO
Low IQ to tell people you’re a virgin past 18.
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I'd say 35 is the point of no return for career/dating/kids/everything.
Lol, I am prepared to become a wizard. Honestly I can't wait...and I like it.
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25. Past that age you're hopeless and might as well die. Which i will if i reach that age without ascending.
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What about me?
I was never mentally sharp and I had troubles even at simple/Basic jobs where I need to remember few things ( like banqueting waiter).
Also I failed some years in HS because of bad grades; I've always been bad at maths and I feel dazed all the time even on stimulants.
The beginning. Because it was over before you were born. Life is some final destination shit. Everything was already decided, you are just an actor going through the motions
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I disagree your 30s is your Prime everything goes downhill at 40 and over.
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exactly my thoughts
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I'd say around 12.
30 is when it’s undeniably over
33 here. 
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already give up. everytime i try to put effort into anything my life gets worse
When you become the blackpill.
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Either 18 or 20.
20 for social circle maxxers. 25-30 for looks maxxers.
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There is no evidence of mental decline in fact research shows that u can increase gray matter a
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