Blackpill What a real GYMCEL looks like after a strict regimen of lifting weights + healthy eating

[RageAgainstTDL]

Most useless hormone ever. Complete removal of that shit from any animal body got no negative side effects, only increased musle mass. I wonder, does myostatin levels depend on your genetics or lifestyle?

It's purely genetics. Most body builders likely have defective myostatin genes, or other genes that affect physique similarly. They've just never been studied for this.

Flex Wheeler is known to have a genetic myostatin deficiency. This is his physique:

The difference between good bodies and bad ones is almost all due to genetic factors like this.

That's the sickest joke about normies who tell you to just "go lift some weights" to become more attractive. For many of us it simply doesn't work. I just biked 1.5 hours. I lift weights or do body weight exercise every day. I eat healthy food with high protein. I've been living this way for years. Yet I still look scrawny as fuck and my body fat is too high. If I eat more I get fat. If I eat less I get weaker.

I have known many men who gain twice the muscle and lose twice the fat as I do with half the effort.

It's just another sick joke where society tells you everything is your fault even though you have no control over it. Everyone tells you "Just work harder!" "Eat more!" "Eat less!" "Exercise more!" "Exercise less!" But what they don't tell you is your physique's potential was written into your genome the day you were conceived.

There's no way around that.

I used to cope for years telling myself, "If I just get buff or get a six pack, that will make up for my height/race/face". Now I know better. It's simply never gonna work for those of us with shitty genes.

 

[Unwanted]

What do you say about this picture OP? If not photoshopped, it means literally anyone can become ripped.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

What do you say about this picture OP? If not photoshopped, it means literally anyone can become ripped.

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No it doesn't. It means that he had incredible muscle building genetics but was raised on an Auschwitz diet with zero exercise.

Put any bodybuilder in a concentration camp and they'll look like the left picture after a while.

Literally anyone can become EMACIATED.

But only the genetically gifted can become ripped.

The left also looks like it was before he finished puberty. His bones clearly got bigger in the pic on the right and bones don't change significantly after puberty.

Some people get good puberties. Some of us still look like little boys.

 

[Unwanted]

No it doesn't. It means that he had incredible muscle building genetics but was raised on an Auschwitz diet with zero exercise.

Put any bodybuilder in a concentration camp and they'll look like the left picture after a while.

Literally anyone can become EMACIATED.

But only the genetically gifted can become ripped.

The left also looks like it was before he finished puberty since his bones clearly got bigger in the pic on the right and bones don't change significantly after puberty. Some people get good puberties. Some of us still look like little boys.

So this means that I will never know if I have good or bad genetics until I start lifting for a couple of months?

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

So this means that I will never know if I have good or bad genetics until I start lifting for a couple of months?

Exactly. I would say even a few years. Many guys will be "doing something wrong" the first few months. Too much or little of something in terms of their routine or diet. It would probably take 1-2 years to get decent results for an average man.

But if after a few years of trying calorie counting, different splits, keto, cutting/bulking, etc., you're still not getting anywhere then it was over before it began.

No reason not to exercise either way. It feels good, keeps you healthy, and keeps you from getting fatter/grosser with age. My naked body may not likely excite women, but I fit in the exact same clothes I did 10+ years ago. I have to pass the time somehow. And if I eat chocolate bars and fried food all day I just feel sick. So I continue my routine.

 

[Deleted member 10531]

Jesus that pic on the left was cringy.

Massive mboobs and dick clearly showing through his panties.

 

[Notgoingtomakeit]

I can already tell by the picture the kid is a short framecel with narrow shoulders, small head and big waist.

 

[Deleted member 10150]

i use sustanon 250 been 82 kg from 70 ,for what ? no one likes me ,i have health problems after . no need for big unfunctional body its not helthy and is very expensive to be big and alone .

im 66kg now i eat for cheap dont cock . i walks i ride bike

 

[ColdLightOfDay]

kek its over for birthinghipscels

I’m surprised this isn’t more of a thing, I see quite a lot of guys like that but few on here complaining about it.

 

[idkwattodowithlife]

yes most likely incels have shitty genes for building muscles.

 

[theoldnick]

hair >>>>>>>>> muscle. when it comes to getting girls, so I'd say roids are not worth it considering risk of baldness

 

[stretch-cel]

You guys are coping hard. Here he is after even more militant gymceling:

a TRUEcel. he has stretch marks on his back similar to mine. only mine are 3-4x worse. it feels good to see another stretchcel. we are rare

 

[Deleted member 1060]

i've seen african tribesmen more jacked than that who don't even know how to grow food

THIS^^^

These motherfuckers never heard of a freaking """dumbell""" in their entire fucking life --

What do you say about this picture OP? If not photoshopped, it means literally anyone can become ripped.

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Are you seriously that retard? These two people are not the same. Just compare their eye areas and lips.

 

[Pewaraw]

He can still get ripped if he works out for longer.

 

[Deleted member 2798]

The left also looks like it was before he finished puberty. His bones clearly got bigger in the pic on the right and bones don't change significantly after puberty.

Some people get good puberties. Some of us still look like little boys.

Guy looks about 15/16 in that pic, so probably at the very terminus of pubertal bone growth. His facial bones look similar between the two, his shoulders still seem to be pretty narrow underneath all that muscle, and his wrists looked pretty thick for a framelet.

THIS^^^

These motherfuckers never heard of a freaking """dumbell""" in their entire fucking life --

Farmer's carry, man. These nibbas are clearly doing some kind of work.

 

[Anger]

What's the point of gymmaxxing if the problems located in your face?

 

[VolcelGOD]

Hot ass twink bp

THIS^^^

These motherfuckers never heard of a freaking """dumbell""" in their entire fucking life --

8-12 hours of manual labour/general physical activity every day starting from childhood is as effective as any dumbell I suppose.

 

[notmeok1989]

Not all fatcels are volcels. I used to be a fatcel/vocel but even when fat I still got compliments about my broad shoulders. It's over if you haven't got frame.

 

[rabitter]

You guys are coping hard. Here he is after even more militant gymceling:

Does he look better? Yes, but ....

Can he post pics of his shirtless physique on Tinder/POF and get dates? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

Will he look impressive in a tight t shirt? ABSOLUTELY NOT.

He will always look small and weak because he has tiny bones and he lacks the capacity for massive muscle production.

What type of body do girls find attractive?

THIS KIND:

Even in the BEFORE where the guy has a gut, he MOGS the ethnic guy to oblivion because he has mass and frame.

This is why gymcelling is a joke.

I still do it myself. But I am not delusional. Guys who have "nice bodies" are born with them. They aren't made in the gym. Or made in the kitchen. They're made by genetics.

COPE

Nice bodies aren't made in the gym. Nor in the kitchen. They're made with roidcelling.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

COPE

Nice bodies aren't made in the gym. Nor in the kitchen. They're made with roidcelling.

I think it's hilarious that most of the people who keep spamming the steroid meme have never actually even tried steroids.

 

[rabitter]

I think it's hilarious that most of the people who keep spamming the steroid meme have never actually even tried steroids.

I haven't yet (will in the near future) but you're delusional if think testosterone and tren don't help a lot.

Plenty of good before and after pictures on various threads on reddit.com/r/steroids and other 'roid forums.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

I haven't yet (will in the near future) but you're delusional if think testosterone and tren don't help a lot.

Plenty of good before and after pictures on various threads on reddit.com/r/steroids and other 'roid forums.

Someone who isn't me has tried testosterone enanthate to blood levels of testosterone way above the measurable lab limit and that person only had a marginal gain of around 5-10 lb muscle while their hair started shedding like crazy in the process.

If you can't get at least moderately BUFF naturally steroids aren't going to make you ripped unless you do the hardest ones which will bald you like crazy and quite possibly kill you.

 

[mike mentzer]

• Group 1 (no exercise, natural) experienced no significant changes. No surprise there.
• Group 2 (no exercise, drug use) was able to build about 7 pounds of muscle. That’s not a typo. The group receiving testosterone injections and NOT working out at all gained 7 pounds of muscle.
• Group 3 (exercise, natural) was able to build about 4 pounds of muscle.
• Group 4 (exercise, drug use) was able to build about 13 pounds of muscle.

https://www.aworkoutroutine.com/steroids-vs-natural/

they did not gain 7lbs of muscle. I'm sick of seeing people butcher this study everywhere

their LEAN BODY MASS increased by 7lbs. This is NOT just muscle, it also includes FLUID. In fact, it is PREDOMINATELY FLUID and you actually dig into the research on anabolic steroids you will see this is a commonly noted factor in human use, that the majority of rapid weight gain on anabolics is considered to be water, sodium, potassium and glycogen.

anyone who has actually used steroids, as i have, is not surprised by this: majority of steroid gains happening in just a few weeks, is FLUID IN THE MUSCLE. This is also why when you stop using steroids, you rapidly lose weight. Its not muscle. synthesizing new protein takes a long time even with heavy training and steroid use.

 

[Newbite]

Why did he get rid of that sexy body?

 

[Weed]

they did not gain 7lbs of muscle. I'm sick of seeing people butcher this study everywhere

their LEAN BODY MASS increased by 7lbs. This is NOT just muscle, it also includes FLUID. In fact, it is PREDOMINATELY FLUID and you actually dig into the research on anabolic steroids you will see this is a commonly noted factor in human use, that the majority of rapid weight gain on anabolics is considered to be water, sodium, potassium and glycogen.

anyone who has actually used steroids, as i have, is not surprised by this: majority of steroid gains happening in just a few weeks, is FLUID IN THE MUSCLE. This is also why when you stop using steroids, you rapidly lose weight. Its not muscle. synthesizing new protein takes a long time even with heavy training and steroid use.

High iq

 

[mike mentzer]

hair >>>>>>>>> muscle. when it comes to getting girls, so I'd say roids are not worth it considering risk of baldness

hair loss on steroids is purely from the abuse of testosterone esters

theres a sports physician who worked with guys like arnold, and he said in his book that he never had one case of balding unless the person was using testosterone or was already bald before they started using anabolics. And you can see this from pictures from that era, they all have full heads of hair and great skin. I think there was like one guy who was balding, mike katz, and that was it.

Look at todays millennial lifters and what do u see? they're all either obviously balding, running hat coverup, or have shaved their heads. acne everywhere.

if you dont use testosterone you dont get hair loss. Not even with tren, which by the way you'll hear scientifically illiterate morons tell you is "wayyy more androgenic than test bro, 5x!!" but its actually not. Binding affinity =/= androgenicity. Scientists compared testosterone to trenbolone in a rat study, and trenbolone had less than half as much effect on the prostate as testosterone did, while being massively more anabolic.

guys can use steroids but absolutely AVOID testosterone if you suspect baldness runs in your family. nandrolone is a good choice, approved for human use by the FDA. It was also considered at one point to be a viable alternative candidate for hormone therapy in older men, as docs had other concerns about giving older men testosterone (such as being at risk for prostate hyperplasia, blood pressure etc)

 

[masterwizard]

hair loss on steroids is purely from the abuse of testosterone esters

Why? Is it because natural test gets converted to DHT, which kills over sensitive hair follicles? Does this not happen with the other andorgenic compounds you mentioned .eg. nandrolone? I wanna get on some form of hormone therapy replacement in a few years because im really feeling old and withered.

 

[rabitter]

Someone who isn't me has tried testosterone enanthate to blood levels of testosterone way above the measurable lab limit and that person only had a marginal gain of around 5-10 lb muscle while their hair started shedding like crazy in the process.

If you can't get at least moderately BUFF naturally steroids aren't going to make you ripped unless you do the hardest ones which will bald you like crazy and quite possibly kill you.

Did you even take an AI? The measurable lab limit for most labs is 2500 ng/dl. I find it difficult to believe that you took enough to reach that level and only gained 10 lbs of muscle. Either you didn't take AI or your AI was bunk or your Test was underdosed (because I doubt you bought pharma grade).

There's quite a few studies out there on test. I remember one on newbies where they gained around 30lbs in 6 months - they were injected 500mg/wk of Test Cypionate for 6 months straight, without break.

Bald is right, depending on your genetics. I'd be fine in that dept - the only good bit of genetics I got - even my grandfather decent hair on his head and he lived till 90. Probably kill you? Only if you take other things with it and have a heart defect like Zyzz. Otherwise, nah.

 

[mike mentzer]

Why? Is it because natural test gets converted to DHT, which kills over sensitive hair follicles? Does this not happen with the other andorgenic compounds you mentioned .eg. nandrolone? I wanna get on some form of hormone therapy replacement in a few years because im really feeling old and withered.

its because of DHT yes. There is either something highly specific about DHT's action in people with predisposition to hair loss, or its from the high local concentrations of 5AR enzyme in the follicles and scalp skin, I would venture a combination of both. You'll hear people telling you its about binding affinitys but thats complete bullshit, as i demonstrated before, trenbolone has significantly stronger binding affinity for the androgen receptor and yet has less effect on the prostate than testosterone does. DHT makes prostates well like crazy. Nandrolone has a higher binding affinity than testosterone too, and yet all the medical literature shows it has way less androgenic side effects than testosterone.

nandrolone is very hair safe, while being very anabolic to boot. It is also converts to estrogen at about 1/5th the rate of testosterone, so it provides healthy levels of estrogen whereas other steroids typically dont (such as trenbolone which is not metabolized by aromatase).

 

[rabitter]

And about the hair loss thing - if you read the 'roid forums, taking finasteride pretty much negates the hair-loss affects of going on a T cycle.

Of course if you're taking tren then you'll still shed a lot.

hair loss on steroids is purely from the abuse of testosterone esters

theres a sports physician who worked with guys like arnold, and he said in his book that he never had one case of balding unless the person was using testosterone or was already bald before they started using anabolics. And you can see this from pictures from that era, they all have full heads of hair and great skin. I think there was like one guy who was balding, mike katz, and that was it.

Look at todays millennial lifters and what do u see? they're all either obviously balding, running hat coverup, or have shaved their heads. acne everywhere.

if you dont use testosterone you dont get hair loss. Not even with tren, which by the way you'll hear scientifically illiterate morons tell you is "wayyy more androgenic than test bro, 5x!!" but its actually not. Binding affinity =/= androgenicity. Scientists compared testosterone to trenbolone in a rat study, and trenbolone had less than half as much effect on the prostate as testosterone did, while being massively more anabolic.

guys can use steroids but absolutely AVOID testosterone if you suspect baldness runs in your family. nandrolone is a good choice, approved for human use by the FDA. It was also considered at one point to be a viable alternative candidate for hormone therapy in older men, as docs had other concerns about giving older men testosterone (such as being at risk for prostate hyperplasia, blood pressure etc)

Keyword: rat study

Stop bad mouthing test. Hair loss can easily be avoided even if you're on test. The problem with other compounds is they're much harder to source for beginners.

 

[mike mentzer]

And about the hair loss thing - if you read the 'roid forums, taking finasteride pretty much negates the hair-loss affects of going on a T cycle.

Of course if you're taking tren then you'll still shed a lot.

it really doesn't. Finasteride works for people with normal levels of testosterone, not people injecting supraphysiological amounts of testosterone. The only guy ive seen control his hair loss on a gram of testosterone was having to use both dutasteride and finasteride at doses way over normal, i cant remember the exact doses but it was like triple what normal guys take.

besides you dont want to inhibit 5AR because its important for neurosteroids and your cock. Its better to simply take a superior drug and not have to take all these other drugs to control the side effects of the shitty drug.

tren doesnt cause hair loss. Every guy you see blaming his hair loss on tren was also running testosterone. Seriously, check it out. without fail this is what you will find. As well as every other steroid they blame for hair loss. they always blame the drug that theyve been on for just a few weeks and never the testosterone that theyve been running for months on end (which is where all the damage is done, and then you see the results later when the shed comes along and the hairs dont grow back as strongly) The one that actually has documented clinical evidence of causing hair loss.

 

[hunchback]

OP's pic is a "success story" from the site skinnyfattransformation.com, a routine a swedish bodybuilder came up with to help guys with wide hips. you can find more pics in there. IDK if it's any good. most of the guys would still look bad in a t shirt. you can't cheat genetics I guess.

 

[RageAgainstTDL]

Did you even take an AI? The measurable lab limit for most labs is 2500 ng/dl. I find it difficult to believe that you took enough to reach that level and only gained 10 lbs of muscle. Either you didn't take AI or your AI was bunk or your Test was underdosed (because I doubt you bought pharma grade).

There's quite a few studies out there on test. I remember one on newbies where they gained around 30lbs in 6 months - they were injected 500mg/wk of Test Cypionate for 6 months straight, without break.

Bald is right, depending on your genetics. I'd be fine in that dept - the only good bit of genetics I got - even my grandfather decent hair on his head and he lived till 90. Probably kill you? Only if you take other things with it and have a heart defect like Zyzz. Otherwise, nah.

That's because you're still blue pilled and don't understand how genetically damned some of us weak small frame skinnyfatters are. If a professional lab measures normal testosterone before use and above the measurable limit during use then that is the reality.

Aromataser inhibitors are only recommended by most people on a first cycle if you have high estrogen or gyno. Lots of science showing they will accelerate hair loss also.

it really doesn't. Finasteride works for people with normal levels of testosterone, not people injecting supraphysiological amounts of testosterone. The only guy ive seen control his hair loss on a gram of testosterone was having to use both dutasteride and finasteride at doses way over normal, i cant remember the exact doses but it was like triple what normal guys take.

besides you dont want to inhibit 5AR because its important for neurosteroids and your cock. Its better to simply take a superior drug and not have to take all these other drugs to control the side effects of the shitty drug.

tren doesnt cause hair loss. Every guy you see blaming his hair loss on tren was also running testosterone. Seriously, check it out. without fail this is what you will find. As well as every other steroid they blame for hair loss. they always blame the drug that theyve been on for just a few weeks and never the testosterone that theyve been running for months on end (which is where all the damage is done, and then you see the results later when the shed comes along and the hairs dont grow back as strongly) The one that actually has documented clinical evidence of causing hair loss.

Again you are dead on for finasteride and dutasteride. While I find what you say intriguing about the idea of testosterone free cycles and the idea that some of the steroids have a very low affinity for the prostate (implying low affinity for hair), there is simply no way I am going to take that risk personally.

Hair is almost everything for a man. There is no way I will ever risk another follicle. I wasn't born with Clooney hair genetics. Baldness is in my genes. I have to take drugs already to stop this. I'm not risking it restart for anything.

Hair loss is caused by androgen receptor binding in the hair follicle. ANYTHING that binds to the androgen receptor can stimulate it to varying degrees. I'm not loading up my body with anything that binds to androgen receptors.

Very few body builders have good hair over the age of 50. Even if it goes slow most still lose. Eg. Arnold.

I want perfect hair for life. It's way more important than another 10-20 lb of muscle. It's over for me anyway and I get that.