Venting Were you guys as surprised as I was at how vicious the normies were towards Nikolas Cruz?

[Fat Link]

I’ve been watching the family members of his victims on YouTube today make their various speeches to him and all I’ve witnessed to my amazement is pure hatred and again viciousness, with family members speaking of their glee and hopes that he suffer mightily in prison or be killed there or how they want to kill him themselves and how he should be afraid of them blah, blah, blah, etc, etc.

I guess it’s just jarring to me because I’m so used to seeing the influence of the Christian religion on people during these types of trials as I grew up and would watch bits and pieces of them occasionally.

Sure there’d at times be victims families just as vicious and hateful as in the Cruz case but mostly what I’d see as a youngster were victims families telling their victimizer/the accused etc, that though they are angry with the person now they know in time God will help them forgive the person and that they hope the person finds God and redemption in prison or another variation might go that they say they love the accuser as a fellow brother in Christ but don’t accept what they did and want the killer to reflect upon their actions while in prison and find sorrow, remorse and then forgiveness from God.

Many times this kind of compassion and showing of love when love is the last thing an apparently vicious killer expects moves them to break down into heavy sobs and tears and in the cases where said killer is not actually a psychopath or sociopath simply play acting to fool people with the tears the love shown probably does bring about guilt, sorrow and self reflection in the killer.

Whereas in Cruz’s case if I were him experiencing all of their hate, it’d be damn hard not to look at these people in total disgust and feel completely justified in what I had done.

So I guess I’m just saying as wacky as the Christian religion can sometimes or oftentimes be, there’s at least some deep wisdom in certain aspects or teachings of it which is probably in part what helps explain its longevity.

Though yeah seeing these families behavior towards Cruz it makes me wonder just how badly Christianity’s hold has weakened over western civilization in a pure curiosity sense due to incidents like this?

 

[subhuman]

I’m not. I know that normies are out for blood. Huxley says morality is just an excuse to hurt people. If you think about it, the crime is already done. It’s not like the death penalty will do anything about it. They just want to kill him. Fucking normies man, they’re just as vicious as the school shooters

 

[Mecoja]

If someone killed my family member I would also want him dead. Thats natural.

 

[subhuman]

If someone killed my family member I would also want him dead. Thats natural.

It might be natural but not just. Read the Eumenides

 

[Betrayed]

Of course the mod pins himself again

 

[Mecoja]

It might be natural but not just. Read the Eumenides

I know it's not just, its revenge, eye for an eye and it doesn't solve anything, . It's based on emotions .I'm just being honest

 

[Postmaxxercel50k]

no, I was expecting it

 

[Indari]

that's what they think of all s ubchad males

 

[Indari]

I’m so used to seeing the influence of the Christian religion on people during these types of trials

love is patient love is kind

 

[Fat Link]

Of course the mod pins himself again

Admin privilege nigga!

 

[Emba]

Lol. I'm inclined to agree with you're POV.

However, what puzzles me, is the complete lack of a big @Fat Link to this alleged yt content.

If I was him, listening to all they're spewed hatred, I would have told them....

"Too bad y'all weren't there! You all are the kind of scumbags that I'm sorry that i did not had the opportunity to shoot!" - Ivg (in video game)

 

[ResidentHell]

People in the world are becoming more and more hateful. But they are trying to conceal it with their virtue-signalling, pro-humanitarian bs

The social contract is slowly eroding. People are gonna have to find new incentives and mechanisms of cope to extend its validity, or else it will lead to widescale disaster where everyone starts to war with each other. Either way, I dont care, because I don't consider myself a proud member of society

 

[Dassadeinmush]

Christians are the biggest hypocrites you will ever meet. Their failure to protect young sub5 men is why a lot of people see how bullshit the religion is

 

[Doctor Eggman]

If someone killed my family member I would also want him dead. Thats natural.

I agree. That is my form of justice. Maybe a perfect human would be able to forgive, but I am not perfect.

 

[Ellsworth]

God from a Christian standpoint would want them to forgive. They obviously aren’t practicing Christians.

 

[oldcel75]

If somebody did something to my family member, I would do anything I can to torture him for days with a nice iron. I don't understand mods obsession with the family that lost their kids in this massacre. I'm really trying to understand, are you trying to make the public hate us even more?

 

[LifeIsAMeme]

I’ve been watching the family members of his victims on YouTube today make their various speeches to him and all I’ve witnessed to my amazement is pure hatred and again viciousness, with family members speaking of their glee and hopes that he suffer mightily in prison or be killed there or how they want to kill him themselves and how he should be afraid of them blah, blah, blah, etc, etc.

I guess it’s just jarring to me because I’m so used to seeing the influence of the Christian religion on people during these types of trials as I grew up and would watch bits and pieces of them occasionally.

Sure there’d at times be victims families just as vicious and hateful as in the Cruz case but mostly what I’d see as a youngster were victims families telling their victimizer/the accused etc, that though they are angry with the person now they know in time God will help them forgive the person and that they hope the person finds God and redemption in prison or another variation might go that they say they love the accuser as a fellow brother in Christ but don’t accept what they did and want the killer to reflect upon their actions while in prison and find sorrow, remorse and then forgiveness from God.

Many times this kind of compassion and showing of love when love is the last thing an apparently vicious killer expects moves them to break down into heavy sobs and tears and in the cases where said killer is not actually a psychopath or sociopath simply play acting to fool people with the tears the love shown probably does bring about guilt, sorrow and self reflection in the killer.

Whereas in Cruz’s case if I were him experiencing all of their hate, it’d be damn hard not to look at these people in total disgust and feel completely justified in what I had done.

So I guess I’m just saying as wacky as the Christian religion can sometimes or oftentimes be, there’s at least some deep wisdom in certain aspects or teachings of it which is probably in part what helps explain its longevity.

Though yeah seeing these families behavior towards Cruz it makes me wonder just how badly Christianity’s hold has weakened over western civilization in a pure curiosity sense due to incidents like this?

I'd be pissed too if my family members were killed. Literally what did the family members do wrong... and Cruz isn't even incel... he had a girlfriend...

 

[nazianime]

Tbh, they deserve it for forgiving psychopaths and narcissists and I am not talking about Cruz. I am talking about themselves, their wives their children. They are the root of evil, NPCs make everything worse they can't create or think, just consume and destroy.

 

[ilieknothing]

After his sentence is handed he should say he wished he could’ve killed more

 

[Remaincel]

it's annoying to see these people crying but it makes sense they want to make nicolas die so they act in the most desperate way possible

 

[Baldingegghead]

What a dumbass could have been coping in his basement but is now rotting in solitary with fuck all to do

 

[PoodankMcGee]

It is honestly really stupid and entitled how they act like justice wasnt served. The dude's going to serve life in prison, but these NPCs acting like he's walking away scot free. Most civilized countries dont even have the death penalty. Ironically, it shows the "victims" are no less barbaric and selfish and evil than Cruz was.

 

[Fat Link]

If somebody did something to my family member, I would do anything I can to torture him for days with a nice iron. I don't understand mods obsession with the family that lost their kids in this massacre. I'm really trying to understand, are you trying to make the public hate us even more?

1. Well naturally. You’re a Jew aren’t you? “Never forgive, never forget” is your people’s motto right?

2. Come on “Abe”!

You old Jews are supposed to be highly Intelligent!!

Thus you should correctly understand that this topic here is almost if not entirely about my utter fascination with how Christianity’s influence over these parent’s and or loved one’s of Cruz’s victims is seemingly either completely non existent or so warped these individuals don’t understand at all that the core of the religion is the forgiveness of others and especially those considered the worst of the worst (like Cruz here)but in truth ALL sin is abominable before the eyes of God, which means a person telling even the smallest of white lies is equally worthy of being sent to Hell when they die (if non repentant of that sin) as a mass murdering rapist and child molestor would be (whom is also unrepentant).

Thus Christ died to save both kinds of sinners and all different kinds of sinners actually but I digress.

Again it’s just fascinating to see how quickly Jew/Liberal social engineering has eroded or warped Christianity’s influence/message in the western world where the religion has been ascendant for so long.

 

[oldcel75]

1. Well naturally. You’re a Jew aren’t you? “Never forgive, never forget” is your people’s motto right?

2. Come on “Abe”!

You old Jews are supposed to be highly Intelligent!!

Thus you should correctly understand that this topic here is almost if not entirely about my utter fascination with how Christianity’s influence over these parent’s and or loved one’s of Cruz’s victims is seemingly either completely non existent or so warped these individuals don’t understand at all that the core of the religion is the forgiveness of others and especially those considered the worst of the worst (like Cruz here)but in truth ALL sin is abominable before the eyes of God, which means a person telling even the smallest of white lies is equally worthy of being sent to Hell when they die (if non repentant of that sin) as a mass murdering rapist and child molestor would be (whom is also unrepentant).

Thus Christ died to save both kinds of sinners and all different kinds of sinners actually but I digress.

Again it’s just fascinating to see how quickly Jew/Liberal social engineering has eroded or warped Christianity’s influence/message in the western world where the religion has been ascendant for so long.

1. Yes.

2. So, you want to tell me that before the large Jewish influence on the press and the society, let's say in the 17th Century in some rural area of north Spain, a child killer will not be boiled to death? Christian world was never "turn your second cheek for another slap" type of place.

 

[Fat Link]

2. So, you want to tell me that before the large Jewish influence on the press and the society, let's say in the 17th Century in some rural area of north Spain, a child killer will not be boiled to death? Christian world was never "turn your second cheek for another slap" type of place.

Alright I see your point.

The world has always I suppose been quite vicious Christian ruled or otherwise.

Hell it wasn’t all that long ago people were being tarred and feathered for various moderate to minor crimes/offenses.

 

[LeDepravedCel]

Whereas in Cruz’s case if I were him experiencing all of their hate, it’d be damn hard not to look at these people in total disgust and feel completely justified in what I had done.

I had this precise thought when I watched the court videos.

Also I'm sure their behavior would've been different if he were chad

Also JFL at modniks always pinning their own threads

However, what puzzles me, is the complete lack of a big @

@Fat Link to this alleged yt content

 

[PPEcel]

I'm more shocked by the vitriol towards defense counsel than towards the defendant.

 

[ElliotRodgerGod]

I was more surprised at Cruz being a literal retard and still managing to rack up a pretty high score.

But I mean, I understand why they're mad at him and I'd say it's an apt reaction from a normie.

 

[PPEcel]

If somebody did something to my family member, I would do anything I can to torture him for days with a nice iron. I don't understand mods obsession with the family that lost their kids in this massacre. I'm really trying to understand, are you trying to make the public hate us even more?

Why are you simping for them? They don't deserve a shred of sympathy.

 

[MiSKiRaT]

They don't deserve a shred of sympathy.

agreed fuck these normscum families im glad they lost their piece of shit overprivileged scumfuck normfaggot children. PLEASE IF SOMEONE HAS FOOTAGE OF THEM CRYING IN THEIR CUMSKIN FAGGOT CHILDREN GRAVES SEND IT HERE OR TO MY PM

 

[oldcel75]

Why are you simping for them? They don't deserve a shred of sympathy.

Why they not deserve sympathy? They lost their kids. This is a terrible loss.

 

[PPEcel]

agreed fuck these normscum families im glad they lost their piece of shit overprivileged scumfuck normfaggot children. PLEASE IF SOMEONE HAS FOOTAGE OF THEM CRYING IN THEIR CUMSKIN FAGGOT CHILDREN GRAVES SEND IT HERE OR TO MY PM

Did you watch the sentencing?

Why they not deserve sympathy? They lost their kids. This is a terrible loss.

Because they have done nothing but spit on the Constitution. I've never seen any other victims of crime make a spectacle like this. Attack the defendant, not the jury, not the defense. They hate the Second Amendment. They hate the Sixth Amendment. They hate the Eighth Amendment. They're fundamentally entitled for thinking that the legal system should cater to their whims and their whims only.

Also, why the fuck do you sympathize with normies who lose their kids? It's not like you're going to have kids of your own.

 

[Immolator]

>everyone watching in the news of a kid going to jail for killing 17 ppl 5 years ago

>meanwhile in Chicago

Manhunt underway in Chicago after 10 family members among 14 injured in Halloween drive-by shooting

Community members gathered for a prayer vigil in Chicago after a drive-by shooting on Halloween night left 14 injured, including 10 family members and three children.

abcn.ws

Chicago reached at least 800 homicides in 2021, a level not seen in 25 years

Chicago endured one of its deadliest years in at least the last quarter-century in 2021, according to Chicago Police Department data, information from other law enforcement and the Cook County medical examiner’s office.

www.chicagotribune.com

 

[oldcel75]

Did you watch the sentencing?


Because they have done nothing but spit on the Constitution. I've never seen any other victims of crime make a spectacle like this. Attack the defendant, not the jury, not the defense. They hate the Second Amendment. They hate the Sixth Amendment. They hate the Eighth Amendment. They're fundamentally entitled for thinking that the legal system should cater to their whims and their whims only.

Also, why the fuck do you sympathize with normies who lose their kids? It's not like you're going to have kids of your own.

When you lose your kids all your mind is going upside down. Because of this, I give them a lot of leeway.

I'm not understanding the question. So, if I was born without legs I can't sympathize with someone that had his legs cut by criminals or terrorists?

 

[PPEcel]

When you lose your kids all your mind is going upside down. Because of this, I give them a lot of leeway.

I'm not understanding the question. So, if I was born without legs I can't sympathize with someone that had his legs cut by criminals or terrorists?

I don't.

These are the same people who think others don't deserve freedom of expression, the right to self-defense, the right to a fair trial by a unanimous jury. When so much of the left already wants to curtail the civil rights of incels, why have sympathy for people who are outright hostile to the idea of rights in general?

They are pieces of shit and I do not give a single flying fuck that their kids are dead. An incel's constitutional rights matter more than anyone's dead kids.

Cruz will serve the rest of his life in prison. What more do they expect? What more do they think they deserve?

 

[Fat Link]

Anyone have a link to the video of the shooting?

One of the parents said to Cruz that they watched it, so I figure it must be out there somewhere, unless it’s a private video only the cops have access to??

 

[PPEcel]

Anyone have a link to the video of the shooting?

One of the parents said to Cruz that they watched it, so I figure it must be out there somewhere, unless it’s a private video only the cops have access to??

It's private.

 

[Fat Link]

It's private.

View: https://youtu.be/GP8IusPuy7M

 

[Intellau_Celistic]

No.

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[oldcel75]

I don't.

These are the same people who think others don't deserve freedom of expression, the right to self-defense, the right to a fair trial by a unanimous jury. When so much of the left already wants to curtail the civil rights of incels, why have sympathy for people who are outright hostile to the idea of rights in general?

They are pieces of shit and I do not give a single flying fuck that their kids are dead. An incel's constitutional rights matter more than anyone's dead kids.

Cruz will serve the rest of his life in prison. What more do they expect? What more do they think they deserve?

Some people from USA in this forum want to limit the rights of women, to kill the Jews, to segragate blacks. I'm sure that is also hostile to the Constitution: 14A and 19A for example.
But we understand why they say it, right? It's all coming from terrible pain. You don't ban them, we, the more mature and intelligent people here, are giving them leeway because we understand from where those edgy things are coming. So, I believe that those parents should receive the same leeway from us.

 

[SamuraiWarriorsKoei]

I laughed when I watched the sentencing. All I can think is nothing they do will ever bring those kids back. It's all a load of shit they should've just executed Cruz and be done with it. These dog and pony shows offer absolutely nothing, there's nothing positive from them at all. Your children were murdered because your society is shit and it creates deranged people with no help from their childhood and their mental illness and spite builds up into their percieved "revenge".

I can't see why Cruz didn't kill himself after the shooting, what's the point of living after that? Surely it would've been easier to just die.


They're all just government distractions and tools these shooters, nothing cool about them.

 

[Oskar Dirlewanger]

yeah the victims families are a bunch of whiney clowns who deserve a smack in their faggot faces

 

[turbosperg]

if I were him experiencing all of their hate, it’d be damn hard not to look at these people in total disgust and feel completely justified in what I had done.

the Nikolas Cruz trial showed the world how vicious and hateful your average normie is against non-NT individuals. If the parents act like that, it is entirely reasonable to assume their kids were equally as vicious and hateful against all non-NT non-Chad males.

I wondered: is Nikolas the monster? Or is he merely a guy who snapped due to years of mistreatment by the actual monsters --- normies?

I'd say "nothing of value was lost", but I can't say that. Nikolas lost his freedom for no good reason.

All civilized societies used to acknowledge a wronged man has the right to revenge.

The idea that a male can be bullied, beaten and mistreated all his life and still NEVER be legitimized in resorting to violence against his abusers used to be applied exclusively to men in the condition of slaves and to beasts of burden all through history.

 

[Paperman]

I can see why the families are angry but they would act so much differently if he were a Chad. They would offer to pray for him, things like that.