JFL Well, I mean, no, not really. Kinda sort of but not the actual idea

[Hellothere]

It's more when they fuck said guys and then go where's the good guys is more so what I was trying to go for. It's not about "niceness points", it's about your own sensibilities and self control and beliefs and seeing shit for what is, such as aforementioned good guys quote. I think that's the driving point behind this, you say you want someone "good loyal faithful etc" and then keeping getting fucked over by them, said "freindzoned nice guy incel good guy etc" is looking at it like "Thah fuck?!?!?"

 

[Grapefruit]

They think an uglycel who's upfront about wanting to hook up will turn her on? No, cucktears, that gets us laughed at and told to fuck off.

 

[Hellothere]

They think an uglycel who's upfront about wanting to hook up will turn her on? No, cucktears, that gets us laughed at and told to fuck off.

That too.

 

[mikepence]

The fuck? Weird how they're admitting that Chad openly saying that he wants to use women as "sex objects" is attractive, but being "nice" isn't. It's almost like women like being with aggressive men and enjoy being beat up.

 

[Hellothere]

The fuck? Weird how they're admitting that Chad openly saying that he wants to use women as "sex objects" is attractive, but being "nice" isn't. It's almost like women like being with aggressive men and enjoy being beat up.

Well, yeah. See, there's "nice guys" IE I do enough of this, I gets thah sex!!!!! Which is probably not a good idea.

And then there are nice people, forget about looks/age/race/status/political affiliation for a moment, just forget about that, who do try to be nice, decent, considerate, respectful people, and are either then seen as "fake", usually cause they are not spouting off pre-approved social logic and lingo, they're "weak" etc, and like they're supposed to just get walked all over and take it.

Yeah and they wonder why some of the shit that happens does.
Reading through the rest of the comments, there is some solid advice for shit I have been going through.