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D. B. Gooner

D. B. Gooner

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Adam and Eve and Pandora's box tell a similar tail. We had it good until we wanted more. Knowledge was our downfall.

Everything in nature is perfect. There is a perfect ratio of nutrients within meat. Some of them are more susceptible to heat than others, even if you cook your food a little bit, you are ruining the balance. Cooking meat, and eating foods that only become bio-available after cooking like vegetables has made us ugly, deformed, anxious, depressed. Every other animal is happy. Every other animal eats raw foods only and is perfectly fine, why would we be any different. The animals aren't happy or sad. They don't think, they just do. Raw instinct.

I admire primitive tribes like the Maasai, but I want to go a step further. I don't want to speak a language. Kill, eat, shelter, reproduce, repeat. That's it. We have disgraced god or nature or whatever you want to call it by trying to fix what is already perfect. We are god's greatest failure, his rebellious child.

I want to learn how to get rid of all thought and rely solely on instinct. I want to become a regular beast. I wish this was possible and I wish I was brave enough to drop everything and try. But I don't think it's achievable at this point, we are cursed for all eternity.
 
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Go back to monke.
 
inb4 getting a tapeworm.

Wishing all the best to You and Your soon to be new friend in this arduous endeavor.
 
What's imperfect about it. I'm not saying we would live to 300 and remain youthful our entire lives, I'm just saying we wouldn't have mental anguish.
Animals consuming other animals to survive. It's immoral and unjustified.
 
Animals consuming other animals to survive. It's immoral and unjustified.
Morals don't exist. Either way that's the reality we live in and straying away from it will only harm us. If every animal got to live in peace I'm not sure life would feel meaningful. We are living proof of that, we don't hunt anymore, we build fake wagie lives. As social outcasts we should've died by our teens in nature, instead we will live in misery into old age unless we rope ofc.
 
Upper Canada is mostly uninhabited if you wanna escape to there.
 
Instinct/ intuition actually mogs
 
Being monkey or even caveman again would be a million times better unironically
Definitely not for us. Imagine being an incel before agriculture. We’d get fucking killed by some animal or be expelled from the tribe for not being beneficial for them.

We’re excluded from society right now, but we can survive and cope. That wouldn’t have been possible thousands of years ago.

I mean, in caveman times we would make it to like 25 at best and that’s it. The suffering would end by external things quite fast. Only in this aspect would being a monkey or a caveman be better than now.
 
Definitely not for us. Imagine being an incel before agriculture. We’d get fucking killed by some animal or be expelled from the tribe for not being beneficial for them.

We’re excluded from society right now, but we can survive and cope. That wouldn’t have been possible thousands of years ago.

I mean, in caveman times we would make it to like 25 at best and that’s it. The suffering would end by external things quite fast. Only in this aspect would being a monkey or a caveman be better than now.
That's the point, we either wouldn't be incels in the first place because humans actually ate human food, or if we were we would die by our teens. In the modern world we are forced to live as these abominations, we will serve as miserable wage slaves until we're 80 and die if we don't rope before then, that is.
 
Definitely not for us. Imagine being an incel before agriculture. We’d get fucking killed by some animal or be expelled from the tribe for not being beneficial for them.
You make it sounds like thats something bad. If that would happen then we would die relatively quickly because of our genetic disadvantage and our suffering would have ended right there. Nowadays where we dont have that survival pressure anymore, nearly any dysgenic idiot can grow old and natural selection doesnt do its thing anymore, at least not how its supposed to be.
We’re excluded from society right now, but we can survive and cope.
Just grow to old age while you are miserable and unhappy all the time bro
I mean, in caveman times we would make it to like 25 at best and that’s it
Again see my points above
 
You make it sounds like thats something bad. If that would happen then we would die relatively quickly because of our genetic disadvantage and our suffering would have ended right there. Nowadays where we dont have that survival pressure anymore, nearly any dysgenic idiot can grow old and natural selection doesnt do its thing anymore, at least not how its supposed to be.

Just grow to old age while you are miserable and unhappy all the time bro

Again see my points above

Honestly, I don’t know which life is better: a short, miserable, physically challenging (not in a good way) primal life or a long, relatively healthy, but mentally also miserable and lonely life with copes (which don’t last forever).
 
Everything in nature is perfect.
There is nothing perfect about nature, never been.

Your definition of perfection (?) your definition of perfection is merely an experience, a product of your thought, we already know that this is exactly how Hume btfo'd the big 3, enlightened posers and copers like Spinoza and Descartes were utterly contradictory and full of shit frauds.

everything still leans towards some of Humes perception more than Descarteses or Spinoza's, or even arguably the most brilliant one of them, Kant, who was ahead of his time more than those two copers and far more reasonable. existence is more chaotic than it has ever been perfect, entropy levels, second law of thermodynamics,
geniuses like sir isaac newton who already btfo'd this coping philosophy before it surfaced, what you see is your brain translating these patterns, pattern recognition.

begs the question, should we question all those group who worked harder than the other group to prove their thoughts that withstood time as a test or question the ones whom thoughts and ideas were significantly inspired and shaped by a certain age they lived in?

We refer to the objective reality instead, the real rationale, in which every lead and clue in nature tells you that it is more chaotic, disordered and random instead of stable,perfect and organized, whether god purposely made it unstable to test his subjects of creations in this "perfect" nature or not does not matter, because a perfect nature doesn't exist, and if it did it would be a manifestation of hell.

epochs upon epochs of periodical or cycled destruction and perdition this planet's "perfect nature" has went through. nothing is a good demonstration of nature's perfection, not even your stacy oneitis.

Everything in nature is perfect. There is a perfect ratio of nutrients within meat. Some of them are more susceptible to heat than others, even if you cook your food a little bit, you are ruining the balance. Cooking meat, and eating foods that only become bio-available after cooking like vegetables has made us ugly, deformed, anxious, depressed. Every other animal is happy. Every other animal eats raw foods only and is perfectly fine, why would we be any different. The animals aren't happy or sad. They don't think, they just do. Raw instinct.

I admire primitive tribes like the Maasai, but I want to go a step further. I don't want to speak a language. Kill, eat, shelter, reproduce, repeat. That's it. We have disgraced god or nature or whatever you want to call it by trying to fix what is already perfect. We are god's greatest failure, his rebellious child.

I want to learn how to get rid of all thought and rely solely on instinct. I want to become a regular beast. I wish this was possible and I wish I was brave enough to drop everything and try. But I don't think it's achievable at this point, we are cursed for all eternity.

Avoided discussing diet choices with you in my earlier threads because I'm focused on preparing meals but this seems like a good chance.

-Cooking as a choice for homo sapiens have been existent and consistent for epochs that passed before the surfacing of the industrial society in which modern anarcho primitivists like yourself (assumed and suspected) constantly blame for the degeneration of genetics and life quality.


-Meat lacks the vitamins and the carbohydrates necessary for proper bodily function. carbohydrates actually being the big one, which I currently feel weak and missing on a cutting diet without carbs. I'd advice you to read about glycogen and it's importance and how eukaryote cells actually work, only with carbs you can reach your maximum potential energy.

extending on that topic about dietary choices and genetic performance, it's notable that many copers think the steppe tribes relied on milk and meat only, in reality the people of the steppe were among the first european cultures that transitioned to farming, the most hilarious detail is that IGHG was actually taller and had more bone density than the people of the steppe and yamnaya cultures, 2000 years ago before they established as tribes, and he ate meat as well, but regularly ate fruit instead of milk and even began the transition to farming before the steppe nomads were a thing, rendering this whole "farming ruined humans" theory as a mere cope since both of these cultures did transition to farming activities and left the HG activities, what really mattered was the golden genetics passed from both EHGs and WHGs, in which the IGHG had more percentage of than the yamnaya, we're talking about the WHG chad, a 6 foot male 10000 years ago, perfect blue eyes and tanned skin and muscle density with ectomorphic limbs, so those genes mattered much more than farming, diets, environments and everything people put blame on to run away from the fact that the looks and genetics of their subgroups/subfamilies and cultures heavily deteriorated, in reality they just intra and inter bred so much with inferior tribes and cultures like anatolics (whom weren't even close to farming back then) that they just became chuds, almost everything was inherited and predetermined and that deviation between the incel and the chad happened at 10-20 thousand years ago way before any major farming revolution among homo sapiens cultures.

-The maasai are literally africans, no african should be a role model for you perfect nature, genetics or lifestyle despite their impressive height my manlet brother.

these kenyan and tenzanian bbcs are mainly notable for possessing a laughable frame compared to their other bbc tribes of impressive heights like tutsi for example, not certain, scattered across that continent since most of these tribes spend their time in running (aerobic activity) compared to other bbcs who relied on anaerobic activity, this kind of lifestyle is the exact reason why modern ethiopians are such a bunch of niggercels mostly due to their brutal frames, and it is also exactly why germanic people still mog.


-Get rid of thought and rely on instinct, you do you, what really matters is your commitment and belief of the idea.
 
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There is nothing perfect about nature, never been.

Your definition of perfection (?) your definition of perfection is merely an experience, a product of your thought, we already know that this is exactly how Hume btfo'd the big 3, enlightened posers and copers like Spinoza and Descartes were utterly contradictory and full of shit frauds.

everything still leans towards some of Humes perception more than Descarteses or Spinoza's, or even arguably the most brilliant one of them, Kant, who was ahead of his time more than those two copers and far more reasonable. existence is more chaotic than it has ever been perfect, entropy levels, second law of thermodynamics,
geniuses like sir isaac newton who already btfo'd this coping philosophy before it surfaced, what you see is your brain translating these patterns, pattern recognition.

begs the question, should we question all those group who worked harder than the other group to prove their thoughts that withstood time as a test or question the ones whom thoughts and ideas were significantly inspired and shaped by a certain age they lived in?

We refer to the objective reality instead, the real rationale, in which every lead and clue in nature tells you that it is more chaotic, disordered and random instead of stable,perfect and organized, whether god purposely made it unstable to test his subjects of creations in this "perfect" nature or not does not matter, because a perfect nature doesn't exist, and if it did it would be a manifestation of hell.

epochs upon epochs of periodical or cycled destruction and perdition this planet's "perfect nature" has went through. nothing is a good demonstration of nature's perfection, not even your stacy oneitis.



Avoided discussing diet choices with you in my earlier threads because I'm focused on preparing meals but this seems like a good chance.

-Cooking as a choice for homo sapiens have been existent and consistent for epochs that passed before the surfacing of the industrial society in which modern anarcho primitivists like yourself (assumed and suspected) constantly blame for the degeneration of genetics and life quality.


-Meat lacks the vitamins and the carbohydrates necessary for proper bodily function. carbohydrates actually being the big one, which I currently feel weak and missing on a cutting diet without carbs. I'd advice you to read about glycogen and it's importance and how eukaryote cells actually work, only with carbs you can reach your maximum potential energy.

extending on that topic about dietary choices and genetic performance, it's notable that many copers think the steppe tribes relied on milk and meat only, in reality the people of the steppe were among the first european cultures that transitioned to farming, the most hilarious detail is that IGHG was actually taller and had more bone density than the people of the steppe and yamnaya cultures, 2000 years ago before they established as tribes, and he ate meat as well, but regularly ate fruit instead of milk and even began the transition to farming before the steppe nomads were a thing, rendering this whole "farming ruined humans" theory as a mere cope since both of these cultures did transition to farming activities and left the HG activities, what really mattered was the golden genetics passed from both EHGs and WHGs, in which the IGHG had more percentage of than the yamnaya, we're talking about the WHG chad, a 6 foot male 10000 years ago, perfect blue eyes and tanned skin and muscle density with ectomorphic limbs, so those genes mattered much more than farming, diets, environments and everything people put blame on to run away from the fact that the looks and genetics of their subgroups/subfamilies and cultures heavily deteriorated, in reality they just intra and inter bred so much with inferior tribes and cultures like anatolics (whom weren't even close to farming back then) that they just became chuds, almost everything was inherited and predetermined and that deviation between the incel and the chad happened at 10-20 thousand years ago way before any major farming revolution among homo sapiens cultures.

-The maasai are literally africans, no african should be a role model for you perfect nature, genetics or lifestyle despite their impressive height my manlet brother.

these kenyan and tenzanian bbcs are mainly notable for possessing a laughable frame compared to their other bbc tribes of impressive heights like tutsi for example, not certain, scattered across that continent since most of these tribes spend their time in running (aerobic activity) compared to other bbcs who relied on anaerobic activity, this kind of lifestyle is the exact reason why modern ethiopians are such a bunch of niggercels mostly due to their brutal frames, and it is also exactly why germanic people still mog.


-Get rid of thought and rely on instinct, you do you, what really matters is your commitment and belief of the idea.
I dont study philosophy as you can probably tell by my post, the thoughts and conclusions made by people before me don't interest me all that much. Maybe you can tell me how studying it has personally effected your worldview and how it might benefit me, but I just don't like the idea of studying the endpoint of people's philosophy, the conclusions they've come to, without fully knowing their entire thought process, their starting point. I don't see how nature being seemingly chaotic would make it not perfect? The strong survive, sounds good to me. Might seem disorderly to the prey, I'm sure the predators find it works like a charm.
We require exactly 0 carbohydrates to survive. You can get sufficient energy from fat. Yes all isolated tribes ate some vegetables or maybe even starch, because they took advantage of every single resource that was in their proximity. They've developed the ability to digest these foods, just as an example, beta carotene found in vegetables can only be converted to true vitamin A by about 50% of the population, and only at a ratio of 1:21. I, as a modern human, have no shortage of food in my proximity. What's in my proximity are butcher shops, farmer's markets, don't see why I wouldn't exploit that. Since the start of agriculture our brains and jaws have shrunk by about 10%.
Like I said the Maasai aren't a perfect representation of how I feel humans should live. But to say they can't be role models just because they're african is silly. Won't speak about my height so I don't get banned, but I'm far from a manlet, and my baseline muscle mass is larger than that of the average Maasai, it's their facial development and their mental health that impresses me. I don't see them depressed or anxious. And this goes for all primitive isolated tribes. Really doubt the idea of suicide ever crosses any tribe members mind. No one would ever feel isolated enough to feel as if their life was meaningless.
You are definitely more informed on the matter than I am so maybe I am being foolish but I like to trust my body, I have had no energy issues eating 0 carbs, I will eat an occasional orange when I don't have access to organs for the day. My immune system is much better too. If I ever feel as if the diet is insufficient I will make adjustments, but until then no study will change my mind, I don't trust other people enough to rely on them or their research, there is way too much conflicting info out there.
Getting rid of thought was a hypothetical, in my head it seems like a possible solution to a lot of my problems, I'm definitely not commited of course, I could never be a sole practitioner of that idea as I'd get shut down by the humans around me fairly quickly. I'm too much of a coward to do that.
 
God loves morons
 
I dont study philosophy as you can probably tell by my post, the thoughts and conclusions made by people before me don't interest me all that much. Maybe you can tell me how studying it has personally effected your worldview and how it might benefit me, but I just don't like the idea of studying the endpoint of people's philosophy

There's a lot to discuss in that regard, of course if we argued about each point spinoza and humes made instead of abstractions this argument wouldn't end, philosophy it has only made me ask more questions or be depressed by figuring out that someone already has reached a profound idea that I had in me before, it is mostly fruitless to go deep here, most of the time atleast.
I dont study philosophy as you can probably tell by I don't see how nature being seemingly chaotic would make it not perfect? The strong survive, sounds good to me. Might seem disorderly to the prey, I'm sure the predators find it works like a charm.
Why would anything be considered perfect to begin with? perfection is just a human construct, it is not an innate idea found in existence.

For the human part of it, would you consider jackson pollock work as art? I wouldn't, it's too chaotic, but for other people it's a perfect form of art and thus such fluid man-made constructs fails to fit within the boundaries of the claimed "objective rational" model to analyze them.

The strong survives the weak falls and other Nietzschean constructs, all fail to address that there is more to nature and existence than just strong and weak, prehistoric animals, or even if we go to biblical texts, we found that the weaker actually prevailed and the strong diminished, larger prehistoric species, extinct, tribes of hominen who were tenfolds stronger than homo sapiens, extinct, tribes of giants in biblical texts, extinct, actually all that left remain are things that were better at adapting, following or thinking.

We're not going to discuss the definition pf strength and ehat else it could be so all this could be summarized by two words, shit happens and shit does actually happen, in such a chaotic environment in which shit happens, nothing goes "perfect" or "smooth", it's just a repeated cycle of shit happens.

We require exactly 0 carbohydrates to survive. You can get sufficient energy from fat. Yes all isolated tribes ate some vegetables or maybe even starch, because they took advantage of every single resource that was in their proximity. They've developed the ability to digest these foods, just as an example, beta carotene found in vegetables can only be converted to true vitamin A by about 50% of the population, and only at a ratio of 1:21. I, as a modern human, have no shortage of food in my proximity. What's in my proximity are butcher shops, farmer's markets, don't see why I wouldn't exploit that. Since the start of agriculture our brains and jaws have shrunk by about 10%.
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Since I'm on a related diet, I can tell you that the body needs carbs in moderation and there are lots of reasons for it, as I stated before read about glycogen and how eukaryotic cells work. carbohydrates sit in the middle between protein and fat in terms of TEF ratio, which is 5-10%, FAT being the lowest, which actually makes it the worst in this argument, fat requires the least amount of energy to digest, at the same time fat has the highest gastric emptying rate, so not only that it is stored without a thermic effect, no but it also gets absorbed noticably slower than protein and multiple times slower than carbohydrates. the power of carbohydrates come from supplying the living tissue with glucose without overworking the liver and pancreass to make bile and enzymes from the body's fat and proteins to digest fat, instead it is worked directly by the liver itself (well with the exception of fructose, not all sugars, glucose mostly, which is what most sugars in nature and fruits and starches have in a 50% ratio AT THE MINIMUM, even including the table sugar, sucrose, this is exactly why high fructose corn syrup is worse than regular sugar) .

We take omnivorous animals as an example, our most look alike in the animal kingdom, chimps and bonobos have up to 60% of their diet in fruits, and most of those wild fruits are closer to vegetables like potato in their starch and soluble fiber content unlike the modified fruits that human consume that tend to be more sweet to presence of free sugars.


-The claims that soluble fiber slows down the metabolic rate of nutrients is misleading at best, because it slows the absorption of sugar and has absolutely nothing to do with the most important nutrient there is, protein.

-The claims that fiber is useless are also false, fiber slows the absorption of sugar, which comes in handy paired with a high carb intake that keeps the insulin levels from dropping too low, it is like a hack in a diet with carbs since it slows the absorption of sugar without overworking the body, as well as being close to a probiotic as possible and actually satisfying hunger by volume.


Brain size doesn't matter in any argument even within the same species, is the neuronic count and ratios and density that counts, our skulls used to be bigger and housed almost bigger brains or of the same size, heidelbergs and neanderthals to name a few, a blue whale's brain is 9 times bigger than a human's, yet it has almost quarter of the cerebral cortex neurons and a low neuron to glial ratio, are those smarter or more capable than a human? no, they're all going to the extinction bin of mother nature sooner or later and most importantly way before homo sapiens do. human brains developed in more ways than just size but in density and function, as for the jaw size, since the emergence of sapiens it has been highly dependent on genetics and inheritance more than any other factor, anyone who says homo sapiens jaws or bone structure changed with a diet is outright lying and perpetuating a current myth that is echoed amongst nutritionists and redpillers who want to sell courses, mainly due to this simple, obvious clear and objective refute:
extending on that topic about dietary choices and genetic performance, it's notable that many copers think the steppe tribes relied on milk and meat only, in reality the people of the steppe were among the first european cultures that transitioned to farming, the most hilarious detail is that IGHG was actually taller and had more bone density than the people of the steppe and yamnaya cultures, 2000 years ago before they established as tribes, and he ate meat as well, but regularly ate fruit instead of milk and even began the transition to farming before the steppe nomads were a thing, rendering this whole "farming ruined humans" theory as a mere cope since both of these cultures did transition to farming activities and left the HG activities, what really mattered was the golden genetics passed from both EHGs and WHGs, in which the IGHG had more percentage of than the yamnaya, we're talking about the WHG chad, a 6 foot male 10000 years ago, perfect blue eyes and tanned skin and muscle density with ectomorphic limbs, so those genes mattered much more than farming, diets, environments and everything people put blame on to run away from the fact that the looks and genetics of their subgroups/subfamilies and cultures heavily deteriorated, in reality they just intra and inter bred so much with inferior tribes and cultures like anatolics (whom weren't even close to farming back then) that they just became chuds, almost everything was inherited and predetermined and that deviation between the incel and the chad happened at 10-20 thousand years ago way before any major farming revolution among homo sapiens cultures.
 
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Getting rid of thought was a hypothetical, in my head it seems like a possible solution to a lot of my problems, I'm definitely not commited of course, I could never be a sole practitioner of that idea as I'd get shut down by the humans around me fairly quickly. I'm too much of a coward to do that.
it is the hardest challenge to not be obsessed about thoughts, but I can tell you're committed and far from slacking so that's all that matters.

Just to showcase I re-entered the gym two weeks ago, I had many complaints and I still do,and I vent about them a lot even though it has been just a couple of weeks, but my solution was to plan and stick to my plan regardless of the circumstances because I calculated that the outcome would be benefitable for my current situation, if you have a plan in which you studied the outcomes of and decided that it is worthy of committing to, then it is better to commit to it than to be obsessed about it's critique and possible failure, otherwise you're wasting your time on this plan.
 
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it is the hardest challenge to not be obsessed about thoughts, but I can tell you're committed and far from slacking so that's all that matters.
That's funny
 
pigs, cows, and chickens aren't embraced by god
 
That's funny
Don't let it cloud you if my judgement is wrong.
you already said you're in a lean state as far as I recall, that's good, atleast you're not letting yourself go and you're not fat.
 
Don't let it cloud you if my judgement is wrong.
you already said you're in a lean state as far as I recall, that's good, atleast you're not letting yourself go and you're not fat.
No it's funny because the line I quoted almost serves as a good insult, as if to say "You're already doing great with the not thinking thing"
 
No it's funny because the line I quoted almost serves as a good insult, as if to say "You're already doing great with the not thinking thing"
Definitely not, no insults intended.
My intentions with that line were about not being obsessed about thoughts that could hamper what you're trying to achieve :feelscomfy:
 

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