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Blackpincel

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Exactly like the title says, I think we need a place somewhere online to debunk/refute normie fallacies head on. We need to face them, debate and reason with them. We are having a one-sided "war" against them, were we can't defend ourselves against their attacks (I'm looking at you, IT) and we can't hear what they actually think about a couple of things as well.

Yes, I know it's been done several times before, enough to produce a F.A.Q. , but we need to get as many normies as we can to actually understand the problems that some Incels are facing. Many normies understand the Blackpill concept and even agree with it, but they still don't realize how hard it is for some of us, how it can lead to serious consequences (ERing and suicides), and that many of us actually need help and "political" activism. We are quickly blamed for ER shootings/attacks or suicides, and normies act as if they were powerless to prevent that, but that isn't true, they CAN help if they stop being selfish for a second and having a realistic stance of the scenario.

The issues about Lookism and Hypergamy can no longer be hidden the way they are by society, and they need to be tackled, otherwise the "Beta uprising" thing will no longer be just a meme.

Several months ago, I tried to debate BrazilianSigma (the main poster of cucktears), and he/she/whatever completely ignored my Direct Message on Reddit, I even wrote the message in our native language Portuguese and the fucker just pretended it didn't happen. That made me realize that IncelTears is just another Reddit echo chamber that some people go to get an easy increase of Karma points, so we need somewhere with actual normies who are curious about us.
I know we have /r/askanincel/ as well, but that doesn't seem to allow direct confrontation with normies.
 
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The Chads and Stacies will never agree to debate us, they know we are right and just use it to their advantage. Other kinds of normies think we are crazy and logical discourse wont work on them. Its a pointless endeavor.
 
I'd honestly prefer if someone had their own independent YouTube channel and did this. I don't want that bluepilled smut coming anywhere near this forum.
 
The Chads and Stacies will never agree to debate us, they know we are right and just use it to their advantage. Other kinds of normies think we are crazy and logical discourse wont work on them. Its a pointless endeavor.
 
The Chads and Stacies will never agree to debate us, they know we are right and just use it to their advantage. Other kinds of normies think we are crazy and logical discourse wont work on them. Its a pointless endeavor.
I'm not talking about Chads or Stacies specifically, many of them don't "look down", we are less than human aka Subhuman for most of them, but I'm talking about the few normies who feel "fascinated" about the whole Incel phenomenon and are curious about how we have it hard since it's so simple and easy for them.
They will of course use Bluepilled arguments, but THAT'S when we should strike back blackpilling them with actual PROOF and Data (something this Forum has a hard time with, tbh).
 
whats the point? their rebuttals will be "hehe dumb virgin" or something like that. we're just gonna be on there to get mocked
 
No point, normies dont accept facts
 
whats the point? their rebuttals will be "hehe dumb virgin" or something like that. we're just gonna be on there to get mocked
No point, normies dont accept facts
At very least, trying to wastefully reason with them to no avail can be eventually be used as proof that "we tried", that we actually didn't lock ourselves to a bubble. So if any tragic event happens after that, with Inceldom as a reason, they can blame no one but themselves ¯\(ツ)

If we get a single normie on our side, it's already a small victory.
 
its pointless, hell right now im trying to prove a point on reddit about something else, its completely retarded and pointless.
 
Go to where the normies are and have your own debates, that's what I do.
 
A subforum to bluepill?
 
Like where, for example?

If you hear a normie talkin' shit, chime in and say "Here's what I think."

Or if a certain question or concern is on your mind, you don't have to wait for a normie to bring it up. There's probably a subreddit or something you can bring it up on.
 
No one would listen to our arguments.
 
I think more debate between incels and non-incels would be really good. Go for it OP.

I don't think you're quite right the end result of this would be blackpilling normies though... I'm convinced that, in a big way, that the blackpill is just as hopeless and delusional in its own way as the people who say "just b yourself."

I suspect that if there was more honest talk across the divide, non-incels would understand and empathize more with the problems incels suffer through... and incels would maybe get an outsiders perspective on the manic, self-defeating, unproductive nature of our culture.
 
That one with the gay "moderator" was a train wreck. Basically never refuted the blackpill, used old posts against the debatercels as "hate speech", and pre-preemptively cut them off before they could respond. The feminists they debated were mongoloids and constantly diverted the conversation when they couldn't defend their arguments.

The reality is normans will never be receptive to the blackpill. It's too depressing and cognitive dissonance is bliss. At a subconscious level all normans know the blackpill is real but to admit it gives them zero incentive to wageslave, get a family, all the things that keeps Weimarica going. To admit the blackpill forces one to find purpose outside of the lies we've been socially conditioned with and that's too much responsibility for the lazy and fearful.
 
lets assume we somehow manage to convince normies that the blackpill is real. what than? the blackpill problems aren't theirs, they dont really care about the repercussions if they come at our expense. what we need to do is show the extensions of the blackpill that affect their lives, like alimony payments and divorce rates, only than will they care.
 
Why would you want to talk to normies? They’re literally a hive mind and will force the same shit at you through different ways but the same message. Jfl
 

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