Blackpill We are all mentalcels

PHp

PHp

21 yo 3.5/10 truecel monster
★★★
Joined
Jul 14, 2019
Posts
1,224
Online
12d 19h 32m
I'd like to begin talking about ascending. It is one of the biggest lies an incel can tell himself, once you actively think about self-improving to do so that's the most clear indicator, of many that you overlooked, that there is something inherently wrong within you. How can you think like this about something so trivial and natural to normal non-chad people like forming social relationships (not limited to romantic ones), while you plan on stuff like no-fap or gymcelling and still think there is hope for ''ascending''? Most people here claim they want a girl, but the vast majority has no clue how they would maintain a relationship, and that is again a thing normal people have much less problem than us. Many here can't even imagine themselves in the situations they see those people in. That stuff just doesn't happen for someone who functions normally

We missed basic social development steps during our teens and childhood because of our looks and how the world treated us thanks to them, take those who had bad parenting and they are even more fucked. All of this took a toll on our social skills and personality (yes, those DO matter and you're lying to yourself if you deny it, although looks are WAY more important) and made each one of us a mentalcel on some level, even if we don't have autism or something like that.

This is exactly why there is no point in self-improving for ''ascending'', there is no making up for the mental scars from your upbringing, there is no such thing as ascending even if your looks aren't abhorrent. You had bad luck and something went wrong when you were growing and now you're here, and it is over, no way out.

I'm not saying you should LDAR, it is preferable to just off yourself if you think like that. But you should give up on self-improving based on a false hope of getting women and just focus on other stuff of your life. I'd recommend avoiding as much females as possible and basically trying to live for yourself only.

''But what is the point, there is no happiness on such a life''

This is just wrong, sure it sucks that we can't have women but these were the cards we were dealt with and there is happiness to be found on life besides pussy anyway. Also, it is not like having a gf would magically destroy any chance of unhappiness and misery striking you, just like not having one won't make you happiness-immune. You just need to accept your reality, give up on women and pursue other goals for your life.
 
Personalityinkwell

Personalityinkwell

mentally crippled by lonely teen years
-
Joined
Dec 27, 2019
Posts
39,298
Online
216d 12h 58m
blah blah blah

we are incels because of our looks.

if we became chads we'd be just fine. maybe some bad memories but I would get over it when i'm drowning in stacy pussy
 
Legendarywristcel

Legendarywristcel

Banned
-
Joined
Sep 30, 2019
Posts
11,600
Online
174d 20h 38m
Personalityinkwell said:
blah blah blah

we are incels because of our looks.

if we became chads we'd be just fine. maybe some bad memories but I would get over it when i'm drowning in stacy pussy
 
D

Deleted member 20811

KHHV
-
Joined
Sep 2, 2019
Posts
20,740
Online
227d 7h 42m
Personalityinkwell said:
blah blah blah

we are incels because of our looks.

if we became chads we'd be just fine. maybe some bad memories but I would get over it when i'm drowning in stacy pussy
 
D

Deleted member 25707

bored
-
Joined
Apr 14, 2020
Posts
12,309
Online
65d 23h 55m
Personalityinkwell said:
blah blah blah

we are incels because of our looks.

if we became chads we'd be just fine. maybe some bad memories but I would get over it when i'm drowning in stacy pussy
:lul:
True lmao
OP you spent so much time typing that essay and this guy roasted you like nothing jfl brutal
 
ordinaryotaku

ordinaryotaku

Rotting collegecel. Women hate me for existing.
★★★★★
Joined
Nov 7, 2017
Posts
12,650
Online
70d 19h 26m
PHp said:
sure it sucks that we can't have women but these were the cards we were dealt with and there is happiness to be found on life besides pussy anyway.
Cope, but true.

Lots of weird, negative shit happening in the world. I can cope around it with games as long as I'm not on my campus. Eventually, it will get old, though.
 
Deleted member 7448

Deleted member 7448

Name is Abdu, live in Laos, born on 24.08.1992.
-
Joined
May 16, 2018
Posts
7,170
Online
117d 23h 30m
Personalityinkwell said:
blah blah blah

we are incels because of our looks.

if we became chads we'd be just fine. maybe some bad memories but I would get over it when i'm drowning in stacy pussy
OP has a point. Sure, if we hypothetically, magically became "Chads", it wouldn't matter. But as it stands in reality, we are very much screwed by our lack of social skills and various other things normal people take for granted.
 
Personalityinkwell

Personalityinkwell

mentally crippled by lonely teen years
-
Joined
Dec 27, 2019
Posts
39,298
Online
216d 12h 58m
anon1822 said:
OP has a point. Sure, if we hypothetically, magically became "Chads", it wouldn't matter. But as it stands in reality, we are very much screwed by our lack of social skills and various other things normal people take for granted.
we are screwed by our looks
 
D

Deleted member 19546

Self-banned
-
Joined
Jul 11, 2019
Posts
4,052
Online
60d 6h 9m
anon1822 said:
OP has a point. Sure, if we hypothetically, magically became "Chads", it wouldn't matter. But as it stands in reality, we are very much screwed by our lack of social skills and various other things normal people take for granted.

/thread
 
whatNO

whatNO

Greycel
Joined
Mar 12, 2020
Posts
32
Online
7h 11m
I don't see what the goal is then. If you can get laid why would you work on things at all? ITS THE MAIN GOAL OF ALL LIFE
 
Personalityinkwell

Personalityinkwell

mentally crippled by lonely teen years
-
Joined
Dec 27, 2019
Posts
39,298
Online
216d 12h 58m
PHp said:
All of this took a toll on our social skills and personality (yes, those DO matter and you're lying to yourself if you deny it,
OwlGod @OwlGod jfl another personality coper
 
DirtyCurryCell

DirtyCurryCell

Banned
-
Joined
May 12, 2020
Posts
2,744
Online
30d 5h 3m
Personalityinkwell said:
blah blah blah

we are incels because of our looks.

if we became chads we'd be just fine. maybe some bad memories but I would get over it when i'm drowning in stacy pussy
 
Algeriancel

Algeriancel

Epiphany of solitude
★★★★★
Joined
Apr 6, 2019
Posts
7,244
Online
120d 6h 25m
Good looks without social skills is like a feminist stacy thinking the world is oppressing her while she's being showered by hugs and love. You just can't relate to anything or Anyone. Look at all the "depressed" rich chads and stacies in the world commiting suicide for God knows what reason

But being ugly and manlet EVEN WITH SOCIAL SKILLS. It's like a court jester who thinks the people are laughing with him while in reality they're laughing at him.

I'd say easy mode is giga good looks without socials skills = good physical health and probably a shit mental health

Tutorial mode is both good looks and good social skills = both good mental and physical health.
 
C

Coulan

Overlord
★★★★★
Joined
Jun 12, 2020
Posts
9,159
Online
87d 2h 30m
I have a bunch of mental illnesses but i dont think my social skills are fucked because of them but because im in ny house 24/7 but again looks are everything
 
Deleted member 7448

Deleted member 7448

Name is Abdu, live in Laos, born on 24.08.1992.
-
Joined
May 16, 2018
Posts
7,170
Online
117d 23h 30m
Personalityinkwell said:
we are screwed by our looks
Guys, do you even read the posts? OP admitted that looks ARE IN FACT by far the most important thing, why must we be like "HURR DURR NOTHING BUT LOOKS MATTERS".
 
Personalityinkwell

Personalityinkwell

mentally crippled by lonely teen years
-
Joined
Dec 27, 2019
Posts
39,298
Online
216d 12h 58m
anon1822 said:
Guys, do you even read the posts? OP admitted that looks is by far the most important thing, why must we be like "HURR DURR NOTHING BUT LOOKS MATTERS".
I did read his post.

There is nothing a sub5 social outcast can do to succeed in life. No social skills for your face.
 
Deleted member 7448

Deleted member 7448

Name is Abdu, live in Laos, born on 24.08.1992.
-
Joined
May 16, 2018
Posts
7,170
Online
117d 23h 30m
Personalityinkwell said:
I did read his post.

There is nothing a sub5 social outcast can do to succeed in life. No social skills for your face.
Yeah, and that's exactly what OP said lol. He says that even if we self-improved as much as possible, even looksmaxed (cause let's face it, that won't improve your looks THAT much), we'd still be fucked and it wouldn't matter, cause the damage has been done. So we should forget about women and improve other aspects of our life, cause we're fucked in that department either way.
 
Personalityinkwell

Personalityinkwell

mentally crippled by lonely teen years
-
Joined
Dec 27, 2019
Posts
39,298
Online
216d 12h 58m
anon1822 said:
Yeah, and that's exactly what OP said lol. He says that even if we self-improved as much as possible, even looksmaxed (cause let's face it, that won't improve your looks THAT much), we'd still be fucked and it wouldn't matter, cause the damage has been done. So we should forget about women and improve other aspects of our life, cause we're fucked in that department either way.
well that's my point. if you're ugly you're fucked no matter what. mental issues are just a side effect of ugliness in most cases though
 
Deleted member 23981

Deleted member 23981

rejected pill dichotomy, have my own views
-
Joined
Jan 11, 2020
Posts
8,869
Online
47d 23h 56m
ascending is easy if ur white
 
Deleted member 7448

Deleted member 7448

Name is Abdu, live in Laos, born on 24.08.1992.
-
Joined
May 16, 2018
Posts
7,170
Online
117d 23h 30m
Personalityinkwell said:
well that's my point. if you're ugly you're fucked no matter what. mental issues are just a side effect of ugliness in most cases though
Well, yeah. Could be the life of the party and a social god, if you're ugly you'd be lucky to even harpoon a landwhale.
 
Personalityinkwell

Personalityinkwell

mentally crippled by lonely teen years
-
Joined
Dec 27, 2019
Posts
39,298
Online
216d 12h 58m
anon1822 said:
Well, yeah. Could be the life of the party and a social god, if you're ugly you'd be lucky to even harpoon a landwhale.
ugly guys are almost never life of the parties and social gods. those are outliers
 
Eschewcel

Eschewcel

Excluded from society for a decade.
★★★
Joined
Apr 23, 2020
Posts
1,721
Online
32d 10h 7m
Op should be banned for being so bluepilled
 
Deleted member 7448

Deleted member 7448

Name is Abdu, live in Laos, born on 24.08.1992.
-
Joined
May 16, 2018
Posts
7,170
Online
117d 23h 30m
Personalityinkwell said:
ugly guys are almost never life of the parties and social gods. those are outliers
True, I guess that was just a hypothetical scenario. Ugly guys would've been outcasts no matter what. Maybe at best they'd be jesters who are "friends" with the popular people, in a quasi-bullying/mocking relationship.
Eschewcel said:
Op should be banned for being so bluepilled
He is saying being ugly is so bad that it also fucks your social skills beyond belief. Nothing bluepilled about that.
 
Wizard32

Wizard32

Overlord
★★★★★
Joined
May 20, 2018
Posts
9,113
Online
44d 1h 36m
PHp said:
Most people here claim they want a girl, but the vast majority has no clue how they would maintain a relationship
I would not rely on maintaining a relationship as a given. I would compromise a little bit if I value what a girl brings, but hopefully not simp to the point of completely folding. I would want to be able to express at least a significant amount of my interests and be loved for them.

BTW op I would phrase it "we are all ALSO mentalcels".

We can acknowledge our mentalcel aspects while still not implying it's the only thing.

Like there are uglycels, shortcels, and then those who are both.
 
Justice Bao

Justice Bao

Captain
Joined
May 31, 2020
Posts
1,599
Online
26d 23h 46m
didnt read but cope
 
PHp

PHp

21 yo 3.5/10 truecel monster
★★★
Joined
Jul 14, 2019
Posts
1,224
Online
12d 19h 32m
Wizard32 said:
BTW op I would phrase it "we are all ALSO mentalcels".
Of course, some guys here thought I was saying that we are incels solely because of mentalceldom, which would really be bluepilled like they're saying but it also is not what I said here.

My main point is exactly this
anon1822 said:
He is saying being ugly is so bad that it also fucks your social skills beyond belief. Nothing bluepilled about that.
The consequences of being ugly left scars on ourselves that are irredeemable by self-improving hoping to fix them. Being a manlet, facelet, racelet or any other physical trait, that are indeed the most important reason for our inceldom, will also make us mentalcels no matter what.
Our professional life is fucked but our social and romantic life are beyond help, that's why I said we should give up on the latter two and try to fix as much as possible of the first one while also pursuing other stuff like a hobbie or something

Personalityinkwell said:
well that's my point. if you're ugly you're fucked no matter what. mental issues are just a side effect of ugliness in most cases though
Exactly, the only thing is mental and social issues ALWAYS come as a result of being ugly and how the world reacts to us being born that way. Mentalceldom isn't the main problem, at least for the vast majority of us, it is a byproduct that fucks us up even more as if being ugly wasn't enough already

Personalityinkwell said:
blah blah blah

we are incels because of our looks.

if we became chads we'd be just fine. maybe some bad memories but I would get over it when i'm drowning in stacy pussy
Sure our lives would improve drastically by becoming chads, we would definitely get women and all, but the toll that being an incel took on us as persons fucks us beyond reparation, sooner or later it WILL affect you in other life stuff even if you magically became a Chad.

Justice Bao said:
didnt read but cope
ordinaryotaku said:
Cope, but true.

Lots of weird, negative shit happening in the world. I can cope around it with games as long as I'm not on my campus. Eventually, it will get old, though.
You're right, looking for other stuff to bring you happiness in lives like the ones we have is a cope, but do you really prefer to keep crying over something you'll never have? That's LDAR and you're better off killing yourself then
 
Personalityinkwell

Personalityinkwell

mentally crippled by lonely teen years
-
Joined
Dec 27, 2019
Posts
39,298
Online
216d 12h 58m
PHp said:
Sure our lives would improve drastically by becoming chads, we would definitely get women and all, but the toll that being an incel took on us as persons fucks us beyond reparation, sooner or later it WILL affect you in other life stuff even if you magically became a Chad.
doubt it tbh. maybe when i'm 50 and not married. but marriage is scam anyways
 
Deleted member 7448

Deleted member 7448

Name is Abdu, live in Laos, born on 24.08.1992.
-
Joined
May 16, 2018
Posts
7,170
Online
117d 23h 30m
PHp said:
Our professional life is fucked but our social and romantic life are beyond help, that's why I said we should give up on the latter two and try to fix as much as possible of the first one while also pursuing other stuff like a hobbie or something
Yep, that's also true. Ugliness even has a huge impact on our professional success, and not only through the halo effect that attractive people have and we don't, but indirectly it makes it harder to even motivate yourself and be disciplined enough to do anything.

Not to mention that "networking" is an absolutely essential thing nowadays, and it can be the difference between a good job and a horrible job, and yet our ability to network is absolutely destroyed by all we had to endure our whole lives that ruined our social skills and made us develop various neuroses.
 
HostileWaters

HostileWaters

Officer
Joined
Feb 18, 2019
Posts
572
Online
9d 19h 7m
I don’t think having fucked social skills as a result of negative reinforcement from your peers due to your looks makes you a mentalcel. As far as I’m concerned, a mentalcel is someone whose main barrier to sex is poor social skills/autism/not being NT, basically just someone who passes the looks threshold but isn’t good looking enough to get away with not being socially adept
 
PHp

PHp

21 yo 3.5/10 truecel monster
★★★
Joined
Jul 14, 2019
Posts
1,224
Online
12d 19h 32m
anon1822 said:
Yep, that's also true. Ugliness even has a huge impact on our professional success, and not only through the halo effect that attractive people have and we don't, but indirectly it makes it harder to even motivate yourself and be disciplined enough to do anything.
Exactly, and this at least for me is the most brutal part of being an incel and why mentalceldom affects all of us even if you don't notice it at first. I honestly don't have that much of a problem with the idea of resorting to escorts to relieve my sexual urges, people mistake love for lust and having a gf or wife nowadays if you aren't at least 8/10 is asking to get cucked, but being an incel affects EVERY aspect of our lives negatively and that's where the mentalceldom comes from, we can't come out mentally unscathed from constantly taking all this shit because of our looks.
 
Deleted member 26528

Deleted member 26528

Self-banned
-
Joined
May 24, 2020
Posts
800
Online
13d 11h 49m
PHp said:
I'm not saying you should LDAR, it is preferable to just off yourself if you think like that. But you should give up on self-improving based on a false hope of getting women and just focus on other stuff of your life. I'd recommend avoiding as much females as possible and basically trying to live for yourself only.

based
 
Tenshi

Tenshi

もういいよ
★★★★★
Joined
May 21, 2020
Posts
8,748
Online
75d 11h 23m
funny, because I'm way less mental than I used to back in the day but still, I feel like I'd way easier for me to ascend when I was, let's say, at HS than nowadays
 
MartinLutherCoon

MartinLutherCoon

alcoholic failurecel
-
Joined
Jan 19, 2020
Posts
9,545
Online
83d 8h 6m
im way more mentally fucked after losing all my friends and rotting in my bed for the last 6 months
 
Deleted member 23634

Deleted member 23634

Self-banned
-
Joined
Dec 24, 2019
Posts
976
Online
33d 17h 13m
Personalityinkwell said:
blah blah blah

we are incels because of our looks.

if we became chads we'd be just fine. maybe some bad memories but I would get over it when i'm drowning in stacy pussy
 
PHp

PHp

21 yo 3.5/10 truecel monster
★★★
Joined
Jul 14, 2019
Posts
1,224
Online
12d 19h 32m
anon1822 said:
Guys, do you even read the posts? OP admitted that looks ARE IN FACT by far the most important thing, why must we be like "HURR DURR NOTHING BUT LOOKS MATTERS".
 
BITG

BITG

I’ll Keep Moving Forward
★★★★★
Joined
Dec 3, 2019
Posts
8,412
Online
97d 9h 28m
Title is a bit off. It should be “we are all SelfEsteemcels”. It fits better.
 
Wizard32

Wizard32

Overlord
★★★★★
Joined
May 20, 2018
Posts
9,113
Online
44d 1h 36m
PHp said:
Of course, some guys here thought I was saying that we are incels solely because of mentalceldom, which would really be bluepilled like they're saying but it also is not what I said here.

My main point is exactly this
Good, I think phrasing matters to avoid these misunderstandings.

 
Deleted member 24256

Deleted member 24256

moving to woods #2035
-
Joined
Jan 27, 2020
Posts
7,251
Online
53d 17h 23m
Personalityinkwell said:
blah blah blah

we are incels because of our looks.

if we became chads we'd be just fine. maybe some bad memories but I would get over it when i'm drowning in stacy pussy
 
slavcel11

slavcel11

kitsunepilled
★★★
Joined
Apr 16, 2020
Posts
4,223
Online
81d 7h 35m
volcel if women dont instantly throw up at you