Blackpill We are all mentalcels

[PHp]

I'd like to begin talking about ascending. It is one of the biggest lies an incel can tell himself, once you actively think about self-improving to do so that's the most clear indicator, of many that you overlooked, that there is something inherently wrong within you. How can you think like this about something so trivial and natural to normal non-chad people like forming social relationships (not limited to romantic ones), while you plan on stuff like no-fap or gymcelling and still think there is hope for ''ascending''? Most people here claim they want a girl, but the vast majority has no clue how they would maintain a relationship, and that is again a thing normal people have much less problem than us. Many here can't even imagine themselves in the situations they see those people in. That stuff just doesn't happen for someone who functions normally

We missed basic social development steps during our teens and childhood because of our looks and how the world treated us thanks to them, take those who had bad parenting and they are even more fucked. All of this took a toll on our social skills and personality (yes, those DO matter and you're lying to yourself if you deny it, although looks are WAY more important) and made each one of us a mentalcel on some level, even if we don't have autism or something like that.

This is exactly why there is no point in self-improving for ''ascending'', there is no making up for the mental scars from your upbringing, there is no such thing as ascending even if your looks aren't abhorrent. You had bad luck and something went wrong when you were growing and now you're here, and it is over, no way out.

I'm not saying you should LDAR, it is preferable to just off yourself if you think like that. But you should give up on self-improving based on a false hope of getting women and just focus on other stuff of your life. I'd recommend avoiding as much females as possible and basically trying to live for yourself only.

''But what is the point, there is no happiness on such a life''

This is just wrong, sure it sucks that we can't have women but these were the cards we were dealt with and there is happiness to be found on life besides pussy anyway. Also, it is not like having a gf would magically destroy any chance of unhappiness and misery striking you, just like not having one won't make you happiness-immune. You just need to accept your reality, give up on women and pursue other goals for your life.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

blah blah blah

we are incels because of our looks.

if we became chads we'd be just fine. maybe some bad memories but I would get over it when i'm drowning in stacy pussy

 

[Deleted member 21219]

blah blah blah

we are incels because of our looks.

if we became chads we'd be just fine. maybe some bad memories but I would get over it when i'm drowning in stacy pussy

 

[Deleted member 20811]

blah blah blah

we are incels because of our looks.

if we became chads we'd be just fine. maybe some bad memories but I would get over it when i'm drowning in stacy pussy

 

[Deleted member 25707]

blah blah blah

we are incels because of our looks.

if we became chads we'd be just fine. maybe some bad memories but I would get over it when i'm drowning in stacy pussy

True lmao
OP you spent so much time typing that essay and this guy roasted you like nothing jfl brutal

 

[ordinaryotaku]

sure it sucks that we can't have women but these were the cards we were dealt with and there is happiness to be found on life besides pussy anyway.

Cope, but true.

Lots of weird, negative shit happening in the world. I can cope around it with games as long as I'm not on my campus. Eventually, it will get old, though.

 

[Deleted member 7448]

blah blah blah

we are incels because of our looks.

if we became chads we'd be just fine. maybe some bad memories but I would get over it when i'm drowning in stacy pussy

OP has a point. Sure, if we hypothetically, magically became "Chads", it wouldn't matter. But as it stands in reality, we are very much screwed by our lack of social skills and various other things normal people take for granted.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

OP has a point. Sure, if we hypothetically, magically became "Chads", it wouldn't matter. But as it stands in reality, we are very much screwed by our lack of social skills and various other things normal people take for granted.

we are screwed by our looks

 

[Deleted member 19546]

OP has a point. Sure, if we hypothetically, magically became "Chads", it wouldn't matter. But as it stands in reality, we are very much screwed by our lack of social skills and various other things normal people take for granted.

/thread

 

[whatNO]

I don't see what the goal is then. If you can get laid why would you work on things at all? ITS THE MAIN GOAL OF ALL LIFE

 

[Personalityinkwell]

All of this took a toll on our social skills and personality (yes, those DO matter and you're lying to yourself if you deny it,

@OwlGod jfl another personality coper

 

[DirtyCurryCell]

blah blah blah

we are incels because of our looks.

if we became chads we'd be just fine. maybe some bad memories but I would get over it when i'm drowning in stacy pussy

 

[Deleted member 17883]

Good looks without social skills is like a feminist stacy thinking the world is oppressing her while she's being showered by hugs and love. You just can't relate to anything or Anyone. Look at all the "depressed" rich chads and stacies in the world commiting suicide for God knows what reason

But being ugly and manlet EVEN WITH SOCIAL SKILLS. It's like a court jester who thinks the people are laughing with him while in reality they're laughing at him.

I'd say easy mode is giga good looks without socials skills = good physical health and probably a shit mental health

Tutorial mode is both good looks and good social skills = both good mental and physical health.

 

[Deleted member 7448]

we are screwed by our looks

Guys, do you even read the posts? OP admitted that looks ARE IN FACT by far the most important thing, why must we be like "HURR DURR NOTHING BUT LOOKS MATTERS".

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Guys, do you even read the posts? OP admitted that looks is by far the most important thing, why must we be like "HURR DURR NOTHING BUT LOOKS MATTERS".

I did read his post.

There is nothing a sub5 social outcast can do to succeed in life. No social skills for your face.

 

[Deleted member 7448]

I did read his post.

There is nothing a sub5 social outcast can do to succeed in life. No social skills for your face.

Yeah, and that's exactly what OP said lol. He says that even if we self-improved as much as possible, even looksmaxed (cause let's face it, that won't improve your looks THAT much), we'd still be fucked and it wouldn't matter, cause the damage has been done. So we should forget about women and improve other aspects of our life, cause we're fucked in that department either way.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Yeah, and that's exactly what OP said lol. He says that even if we self-improved as much as possible, even looksmaxed (cause let's face it, that won't improve your looks THAT much), we'd still be fucked and it wouldn't matter, cause the damage has been done. So we should forget about women and improve other aspects of our life, cause we're fucked in that department either way.

well that's my point. if you're ugly you're fucked no matter what. mental issues are just a side effect of ugliness in most cases though

 

[Deleted member 23981]

ascending is easy if ur white

 

[Deleted member 7448]

well that's my point. if you're ugly you're fucked no matter what. mental issues are just a side effect of ugliness in most cases though

Well, yeah. Could be the life of the party and a social god, if you're ugly you'd be lucky to even harpoon a landwhale.

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Well, yeah. Could be the life of the party and a social god, if you're ugly you'd be lucky to even harpoon a landwhale.

ugly guys are almost never life of the parties and social gods. those are outliers

 

[Eschewcel]

Op should be banned for being so bluepilled

 

[Deleted member 7448]

ugly guys are almost never life of the parties and social gods. those are outliers

True, I guess that was just a hypothetical scenario. Ugly guys would've been outcasts no matter what. Maybe at best they'd be jesters who are "friends" with the popular people, in a quasi-bullying/mocking relationship.

Op should be banned for being so bluepilled

He is saying being ugly is so bad that it also fucks your social skills beyond belief. Nothing bluepilled about that.

 

[Sheogorath]

Most people here claim they want a girl, but the vast majority has no clue how they would maintain a relationship

I would not rely on maintaining a relationship as a given. I would compromise a little bit if I value what a girl brings, but hopefully not simp to the point of completely folding. I would want to be able to express at least a significant amount of my interests and be loved for them.

BTW op I would phrase it "we are all ALSO mentalcels".

We can acknowledge our mentalcel aspects while still not implying it's the only thing.

Like there are uglycels, shortcels, and then those who are both.

 

[Justice Bao]

didnt read but cope

 

[Deleted member 20811]

Op should be banned for being so bluepilled

 

[PHp]

BTW op I would phrase it "we are all ALSO mentalcels".

Of course, some guys here thought I was saying that we are incels solely because of mentalceldom, which would really be bluepilled like they're saying but it also is not what I said here.

My main point is exactly this

He is saying being ugly is so bad that it also fucks your social skills beyond belief. Nothing bluepilled about that.

The consequences of being ugly left scars on ourselves that are irredeemable by self-improving hoping to fix them. Being a manlet, facelet, racelet or any other physical trait, that are indeed the most important reason for our inceldom, will also make us mentalcels no matter what.
Our professional life is fucked but our social and romantic life are beyond help, that's why I said we should give up on the latter two and try to fix as much as possible of the first one while also pursuing other stuff like a hobbie or something

well that's my point. if you're ugly you're fucked no matter what. mental issues are just a side effect of ugliness in most cases though

Exactly, the only thing is mental and social issues ALWAYS come as a result of being ugly and how the world reacts to us being born that way. Mentalceldom isn't the main problem, at least for the vast majority of us, it is a byproduct that fucks us up even more as if being ugly wasn't enough already

blah blah blah

we are incels because of our looks.

if we became chads we'd be just fine. maybe some bad memories but I would get over it when i'm drowning in stacy pussy

Sure our lives would improve drastically by becoming chads, we would definitely get women and all, but the toll that being an incel took on us as persons fucks us beyond reparation, sooner or later it WILL affect you in other life stuff even if you magically became a Chad.

didnt read but cope

Cope, but true.

Lots of weird, negative shit happening in the world. I can cope around it with games as long as I'm not on my campus. Eventually, it will get old, though.

You're right, looking for other stuff to bring you happiness in lives like the ones we have is a cope, but do you really prefer to keep crying over something you'll never have? That's LDAR and you're better off killing yourself then

 

[Personalityinkwell]

Sure our lives would improve drastically by becoming chads, we would definitely get women and all, but the toll that being an incel took on us as persons fucks us beyond reparation, sooner or later it WILL affect you in other life stuff even if you magically became a Chad.

doubt it tbh. maybe when i'm 50 and not married. but marriage is scam anyways

 

[Deleted member 7448]

Our professional life is fucked but our social and romantic life are beyond help, that's why I said we should give up on the latter two and try to fix as much as possible of the first one while also pursuing other stuff like a hobbie or something

Yep, that's also true. Ugliness even has a huge impact on our professional success, and not only through the halo effect that attractive people have and we don't, but indirectly it makes it harder to even motivate yourself and be disciplined enough to do anything.

Not to mention that "networking" is an absolutely essential thing nowadays, and it can be the difference between a good job and a horrible job, and yet our ability to network is absolutely destroyed by all we had to endure our whole lives that ruined our social skills and made us develop various neuroses.

 

[HostileWaters]

I don’t think having fucked social skills as a result of negative reinforcement from your peers due to your looks makes you a mentalcel. As far as I’m concerned, a mentalcel is someone whose main barrier to sex is poor social skills/autism/not being NT, basically just someone who passes the looks threshold but isn’t good looking enough to get away with not being socially adept

 

[PHp]

Yep, that's also true. Ugliness even has a huge impact on our professional success, and not only through the halo effect that attractive people have and we don't, but indirectly it makes it harder to even motivate yourself and be disciplined enough to do anything.

Exactly, and this at least for me is the most brutal part of being an incel and why mentalceldom affects all of us even if you don't notice it at first. I honestly don't have that much of a problem with the idea of resorting to escorts to relieve my sexual urges, people mistake love for lust and having a gf or wife nowadays if you aren't at least 8/10 is asking to get cucked, but being an incel affects EVERY aspect of our lives negatively and that's where the mentalceldom comes from, we can't come out mentally unscathed from constantly taking all this shit because of our looks.

 

[Deleted member 26528]

I'm not saying you should LDAR, it is preferable to just off yourself if you think like that. But you should give up on self-improving based on a false hope of getting women and just focus on other stuff of your life. I'd recommend avoiding as much females as possible and basically trying to live for yourself only.

based

 

[Tenshi]

funny, because I'm way less mental than I used to back in the day but still, I feel like I'd way easier for me to ascend when I was, let's say, at HS than nowadays

 

[Deleted member 24125]

im way more mentally fucked after losing all my friends and rotting in my bed for the last 6 months

 

[Deleted member 23634]

blah blah blah

we are incels because of our looks.

if we became chads we'd be just fine. maybe some bad memories but I would get over it when i'm drowning in stacy pussy

 

[PHp]

Guys, do you even read the posts? OP admitted that looks ARE IN FACT by far the most important thing, why must we be like "HURR DURR NOTHING BUT LOOKS MATTERS".

 

[BITG]

Title is a bit off. It should be “we are all SelfEsteemcels”. It fits better.

 

[Sheogorath]

Of course, some guys here thought I was saying that we are incels solely because of mentalceldom, which would really be bluepilled like they're saying but it also is not what I said here.

My main point is exactly this

Good, I think phrasing matters to avoid these misunderstandings.

 

[Deleted member 24256]

blah blah blah

we are incels because of our looks.

if we became chads we'd be just fine. maybe some bad memories but I would get over it when i'm drowning in stacy pussy

 

[slavcel11]

volcel if women dont instantly throw up at you